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When I just saw Lynn's comments and not TLR's response, I said there's a chance he doesn't survive this. I'm upping those odds.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:59 am
degenerasian wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:12 am Feast or famine with the Mariners. Not only the 2 no-nos but they be held hitless late in other games.
They need to shitcan everyone in the organization, and then back up a Brinks truck to Theo Epstein's house. Turning the Red Sox and the Cubs into WS winners will look like a piece of cake compared to this disaster.

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It's May 19th and they are hitting .199 as a team. That's not made up.
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They've also been no-hit four times in 170 games, which should basically be impossible.
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mister d wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:12 pm When I just saw Lynn's comments and not TLR's response, I said there's a chance he doesn't survive this. I'm upping those odds.
As he’s leaving, lynn gonna “who doesn’t have an office now?”
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mister d wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:12 pm When I just saw Lynn's comments and not TLR's response, I said there's a chance he doesn't survive this. I'm upping those odds.
You expect the same people stupid enough to hire him will know the right time to fire him?

I'm guessing ownership is high fiving him for showing who's the boss.
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Yes and no? This is the second time he's embarrassed himself in two months.
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mister d wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:30 pm Yes and no? This is the second time he's embarrassed himself in two months.
We talking about the White Sox.
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I don't think they follow the same people on Twitter that we do, so they may be oblivious to the embarrassment or just thinks it's whining by uppity players and nerdy writers who haven't played the game.
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EdRomero wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:49 pm I don't think they follow the same people on Twitter that we do, so they may be oblivious to the embarrassment or just thinks it's whining by uppity players and nerdy writers who haven't played the game.
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Reinsdorf earned a bachelor's degree from George Washington University in Washington, D.C.[9] where he became a member of Alpha Epsilon Pi.[10] He subsequently moved to Chicago in 1957.[9] Reinsdorf became a CPA and lawyer[11] as well as a registered mortgage underwriter and a certified review appraiser.[9][12] He leveraged a full scholarship offer from the University of Chicago Law School into a scholarship from the Northwestern University School of Law.[7] His first job after graduating from Northwestern in 1960 was a tax delinquency case of Bill Veeck who at the time owned the White Sox.[6] In 1964, Reinsdorf went into private practice. He developed a specialty in real estate partnership tax shelters. He sold his business interests in the real estate partnership in 1973 and formed Balcor, which raised US$650 million to invest in buildings under construction. He sold Balcor in 1982 for $102 million to Shearson Lehman Brothers, the investment banking and brokerage arm of American Express.[6] However, he continued to be President of the company for several years thereafter"

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Whether or not a position player is pitching isn’t relevant, and people tend to cite unwritten rules of baseball when they feel said rule should be done away with. Swinging 3-0 when you’re up by a ridiculous amount of runs is a dick move. LaRussa attempted to emphasize that point, but he fucked it up.
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Contracts are decided on stats, not unwritten rules. An extra HR, an extra bump in OPS. Fuck unwritten rules. Make a fucking pitch otherwise shut the fuck up.
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EdRomero wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:49 pm I don't think they follow the same people on Twitter that we do, so they may be oblivious to the embarrassment or just thinks it's whining by uppity players and nerdy writers who haven't played the game.
Yeh. Powerful people like team owners and GMs are generally not youthful free thinkers. They’re apt to knee-jerk support TLR, and their circle of associates will harrumph, harrumph along with them.

As Enoch noted, there was a way for TLR to gracefully make his point, but instead, he went the bull-in-a-china-shop route.
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brian wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm Contracts are decided on stats, not unwritten rules. An extra HR, an extra bump in OPS. Fuck unwritten rules. Make a fucking pitch otherwise shut the fuck up.
Yeah, once the manager decides "I don't want to waste a pitchers arm on this crap" all bets are off. We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was) but it's also pretty funny when a major league hitter gets to hit off a little leaguer, IMO.
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A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm
brian wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm Contracts are decided on stats, not unwritten rules. An extra HR, an extra bump in OPS. Fuck unwritten rules. Make a fucking pitch otherwise shut the fuck up.
Yeah, once the manager decides "I don't want to waste a pitchers arm on this crap" all bets are off. We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was) but it's also pretty funny when a major league hitter gets to hit off a little leaguer, IMO.
That’s a strawman.

The point is the Twins waved the white flag when they inserted a position player into the lineup. Swinging 3-0 is a dick move, and parking it in the seats could mean a 98 MPH heater into your back the next time you face one another.

All LaRussa had to do was bench Mercedes for a few games to send the message (and call Baldelli after the game). Instead, he blasted him via the media which not only vacates higher ground, it loses him the clubhouse.
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Position players pitching are probably just having fun and not at all giving a shit about take counts.

And Ryan Lamarre just showed why you don’t bust your ass on routine groundouts just for that 1 in 200 shot.
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EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:14 pm
A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm
brian wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm Contracts are decided on stats, not unwritten rules. An extra HR, an extra bump in OPS. Fuck unwritten rules. Make a fucking pitch otherwise shut the fuck up.
Yeah, once the manager decides "I don't want to waste a pitchers arm on this crap" all bets are off. We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was) but it's also pretty funny when a major league hitter gets to hit off a little leaguer, IMO.
That’s a strawman.

The point is the Twins waved the white flag when they inserted a position player into the lineup. Swinging 3-0 is a dick move, and parking it in the seats could mean a 98 MPH heater into your back the next time you face one another.

All LaRussa had to do was bench Mercedes for a few games to send the message (and call Baldelli after the game). Instead, he blasted him via the media which not only vacates higher ground, it loses him the clubhouse.
What's the difference between swinging at 3-0 and 3-1, especially when the position player pitching is fucking around throwing meatballs every pitch? Hell if everyone gave up, should they just swing and miss on purpose for the rest of the game and go out for ice cream.
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Reaper wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 8:50 pm Shhh, Corey Kluber through 6.
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Tyler Wade had to have shit there.
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mister d wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 9:28 pm Tyler Wade had to have shit there.
Yeah. That was like a rope that then knuckled and kinda hung.

Congrats, Corey. Back to back nights. Wow.
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Forget no hitters; we have managers throwing bases. Wonder if Joe Torre is in the stands for this one.
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Six no-hitters this year, against only three teams: Texas, Detroit and Cleveland.
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EdRomero wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 8:20 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:14 pm
A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm
brian wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm Contracts are decided on stats, not unwritten rules. An extra HR, an extra bump in OPS. Fuck unwritten rules. Make a fucking pitch otherwise shut the fuck up.
Yeah, once the manager decides "I don't want to waste a pitchers arm on this crap" all bets are off. We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was) but it's also pretty funny when a major league hitter gets to hit off a little leaguer, IMO.
That’s a strawman.

The point is the Twins waved the white flag when they inserted a position player into the lineup. Swinging 3-0 is a dick move, and parking it in the seats could mean a 98 MPH heater into your back the next time you face one another.

All LaRussa had to do was bench Mercedes for a few games to send the message (and call Baldelli after the game). Instead, he blasted him via the media which not only vacates higher ground, it loses him the clubhouse.
What's the difference between swinging at 3-0 and 3-1, especially when the position player pitching is fucking around throwing meatballs every pitch? Hell if everyone gave up, should they just swing and miss on purpose for the rest of the game and go out for ice cream.
If you have to ask that question, you’re not prepared for the answer. Seriously. STFU with this nonsense.
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The league batting average is currently .237. The last time it was this low they lowered the mound.
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EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:02 pm
EdRomero wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 8:20 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:14 pm
A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm
brian wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm Contracts are decided on stats, not unwritten rules. An extra HR, an extra bump in OPS. Fuck unwritten rules. Make a fucking pitch otherwise shut the fuck up.
Yeah, once the manager decides "I don't want to waste a pitchers arm on this crap" all bets are off. We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was) but it's also pretty funny when a major league hitter gets to hit off a little leaguer, IMO.
That’s a strawman.

The point is the Twins waved the white flag when they inserted a position player into the lineup. Swinging 3-0 is a dick move, and parking it in the seats could mean a 98 MPH heater into your back the next time you face one another.

All LaRussa had to do was bench Mercedes for a few games to send the message (and call Baldelli after the game). Instead, he blasted him via the media which not only vacates higher ground, it loses him the clubhouse.
What's the difference between swinging at 3-0 and 3-1, especially when the position player pitching is fucking around throwing meatballs every pitch? Hell if everyone gave up, should they just swing and miss on purpose for the rest of the game and go out for ice cream.
If you have to ask that question, you’re not prepared for the answer. Seriously. STFU with this nonsense.
And my comment was a straw man?
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EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:02 pm
EdRomero wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 8:20 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:14 pm
A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm
brian wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm Contracts are decided on stats, not unwritten rules. An extra HR, an extra bump in OPS. Fuck unwritten rules. Make a fucking pitch otherwise shut the fuck up.
Yeah, once the manager decides "I don't want to waste a pitchers arm on this crap" all bets are off. We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was) but it's also pretty funny when a major league hitter gets to hit off a little leaguer, IMO.
That’s a strawman.

The point is the Twins waved the white flag when they inserted a position player into the lineup. Swinging 3-0 is a dick move, and parking it in the seats could mean a 98 MPH heater into your back the next time you face one another.

All LaRussa had to do was bench Mercedes for a few games to send the message (and call Baldelli after the game). Instead, he blasted him via the media which not only vacates higher ground, it loses him the clubhouse.
What's the difference between swinging at 3-0 and 3-1, especially when the position player pitching is fucking around throwing meatballs every pitch? Hell if everyone gave up, should they just swing and miss on purpose for the rest of the game and go out for ice cream.
If you have to ask that question, you’re not prepared for the answer. Seriously. STFU with this nonsense.
The game is a joke once a position player starts pitching and we're worried about the hitters respecting the game when he has a perfect pitch to hit? It's a hitters job to hit and as Brian noted, all of their stats matter even the ones they get hurting you and Tony LaRussa's feelings.
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EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:14 pm
A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm
brian wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:36 pm Contracts are decided on stats, not unwritten rules. An extra HR, an extra bump in OPS. Fuck unwritten rules. Make a fucking pitch otherwise shut the fuck up.
Yeah, once the manager decides "I don't want to waste a pitchers arm on this crap" all bets are off. We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was) but it's also pretty funny when a major league hitter gets to hit off a little leaguer, IMO.
That’s a strawman.

The point is the Twins waved the white flag when they inserted a position player into the lineup. Swinging 3-0 is a dick move, and parking it in the seats could mean a 98 MPH heater into your back the next time you face one another.

All LaRussa had to do was bench Mercedes for a few games to send the message (and call Baldelli after the game). Instead, he blasted him via the media which not only vacates higher ground, it loses him the clubhouse.
Yeah, bench a guy with .981 OPS a few games. It may cost a few wins and playoff position but we taught him a lesson.
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A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:08 pm And my comment was a straw man?

A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was)
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EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:32 pm
A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:08 pm And my comment was a straw man?

A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was)

Except it actually fucking happened? And i was actually right about how it shook down?

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Nothing says waving the white flag like putting in a guy who might make the game take twice as long instead of regular pitchers who are recording outs at record rates.
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Each team has like 13 pitchers now. How is not possible they can't just throw a guy in there to eat a couple innings?
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A_B wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 5:56 am
EnochRoot wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:32 pm
A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:08 pm And my comment was a straw man?

A_B wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:40 pm We celebrate it when Rizzo strikes out Freeman (or whichever way it was)

Except it actually fucking happened? And i was actually right about how it shook down?

Good grief dude.

Freddie Freeman is up at the plate, up 10-0 and yeah, he’s OK with being sat down because a position player is on the mound, because the Cubs are waving the white flag.

You guys are making this harder than it needs to be.
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Throwing at batters, benching players, and trashing them to the media is much simpler than shrugging your shoulders at a player paid to swing the bat swinging the bat at a great pitch to hit, I guess.
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EdRomero wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 9:00 am Throwing at batters, benching players, and trashing them to the media is much simpler than shrugging your shoulders at a player paid to swing the bat swinging the bat at a great pitch to hit, I guess.
OK. The White Sox were up by 12 runs. The Twins inserted the position player to pitch the rest of the game. It’s a gentlemen agreement to get the game over with. Except for a White Sox player who chose to keep the game going by hitting a three run shot.

I already said that LaRussa messed up by not just benching Mercedes a few games for showing up the opposing team.
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Benching one of your best players for breaking an unwritten rule is so stupid
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EdRomero wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 9:09 am Benching one of your best players for breaking an unwritten rule is so stupid
You’re trying to correct a rule you perceive to be wrong by not punishing the player for breaking it. That’s shortsighted.
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