NHL 2021 Offseason

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:33 am

Predators trade Ellis AND protect 5 defensemen, that's crazy.

That's a good team.

Post by **brian** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:56 am

That’s also about the cap, right there.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:02 am

Ellis seems clearly still very good but I’d also worry that the team that knows him best would know when to get away from that contract.

Also nice to see the Rangers waste 2 of 11 expansion slots. Fun.

(Unless they trade Rooney and/or Hajek in a future deal.)

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:00 pm

It's going to suck losing 100% of the "grind" line.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:29 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:02 am Ellis seems clearly still very good but I’d also worry that the team that knows him best would know when to get away from that contract.

The Ellis threads were pretty good. Especially since he played club hockey and still plays beer league.

https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2 ... ts-traded/

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:18 am

Calgary Hitman Luke Prokop could become the first openly gay player in the NHL

Awesome to see the support all over Twitter today from the Hitman, Flames and reporters everywhere.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:51 am

Love it. Really hope he makes it to the league.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:39 am

Yup. Takes a lot of bravery on the kid's part. Hope he makes it.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:55 pm

God. Fucking. Dammit.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:13 pm

That's too much.

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:31 pm

Some things you can't put a price on

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:35 pm

More importantly, he can share with them what it's like to underperform in the playoffs with an aging, overpaid core and no hope of rebuilding for a half a decade.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:46 pm

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:35 pm More importantly, he can share with them what it's like to underperform in the playoffs with an aging, overpaid core and no hope of rebuilding for a half a decade.

He's probably already forgotten about his time in San Jose, Brian.

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:48 pm

Yes, thank you for explaining the joke. <smiley face>

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:52 pm

I can make a very, very strong case that if Ryan Lindgren doesn't get hurt, GM Jeff Gorton isn't even considering jumping into the Goodrow bidding.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:06 pm

I thought the Bolts had a chance of re-signing him, but at like 6x$2m.

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:13 pm

Well, no one would sign a deal with that long a term for $2M AAV. He'd have been better off doing a one or two year deal if those were the choices. He probably could have gotten a similar AAV to this Rangers deal on a two or three year deal on the open market, but I don't understand locking him up until his age 34 season.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:19 pm

Nah, this was almost the exact rumor (and Luszczyszyn's model) when they acquired him, they just beat out other poor decision making teams to get it done.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:21 pm

Regardless of money, in what universe is Barclay Goodrow commanding 6 years of term??

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:23 pm

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:35 pm More importantly, he can share with them what it's like to underperform in the playoffs with an aging, overpaid core and no hope of rebuilding for a half a decade.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:23 pm

Yeah, that contract is going to look bad pretty soon.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:45 pm

Like when its signed Thursday?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:46 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:23 pm Yeah, that contract is going to look bad pretty soon.

Speaking of things that look bad ... there's speculation or a rumor that the reason Anaheim protected Deslauriers is because we're going to offer our fucking first.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:40 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:46 pm
sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:23 pm Yeah, that contract is going to look bad pretty soon.
Speaking of things that look bad ... there's speculation or a rumor that the reason Anaheim protected Deslauriers is because we're going to offer our fucking first.

A first for 30 year-old 4th line grinder Nicolas Deslauriers? That can’t be true. What am I missing here?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:55 pm

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:58 pm

And that's literally all this is. Ownership thought the last week plus of the season against the Islanders and Washington (when Lindgren, Trouba and Kreider were all out) was too embarrassing from a physical standpoint to hang in and keep building an almost unfair core of young talent. In typical Rangers fashion, they're finding ways to make it expensive as well.

(Short of wheeling his corpse up to my front door, there's nothing you could do to convince me Sather isn't actively advising again.)

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:35 pm

Don't think I've ever seen Goodrow fight. He's not solving your Tom Wilson problem.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:52 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:35 pm Don't think I've ever seen Goodrow fight. He's not solving your Tom Wilson problem.

I’ve seen Goodrow in several fights. He’s willing and he sticks up for teammates, which no doubt appeals to Drury. The problem is that he isn’t good at fighting.

So, as chedda said, he’s not solving the Tom Wilson problem.

FWIW, Delauriers is a tough pug (but little else.)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:04 pm

There are two ways to solve the Tom Wilson problem:

1. Every eastern team dresses a 4th liner they know can beat his ass.

2. The NHL puts an end to his cheap shots no matter how many goals he has between cheap shots.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:10 pm

Dolan believes the NHL won't protect his players. He's not wrong.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:15 pm

And this just feeds the bloodlust of the Brian Burke/Mike Milbury types. Lather rinse repeat.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:16 am

Is it a red herring?
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2 ... fish-toss/

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:22 am

Looks like the Capitals are gonna lose Vanecek.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:51 am

I'd trade the Sharks' goalie group for that group in a heartbeat.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:16 pm

I perceive (maybe incorrectly) the Caps having big depth at the goalie position. They really like Samsonov (but I think Vanecek out played him all year and had less dumb time on the IR). Anderson, Copley, maybe Lundqvist, Fucale, Bjorklund (Medicine Hat unsigned), Gibson (Harvard unsigned) all have potential. And there are even more who have played for a very good Hershey Bears team. So maybe not the worst thing in the world. The decision to let Holtby go (which was not one anyone wanted to but it had to happen) seemed to be the right call.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:24 pm

Sad day. It's strange to lose a captain in this way. Mister D: rumor Giordano being flipped to NYR for Hajek, Gauthier + 3rd round pick

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:37 pm

I really, really wanted to see Gauthier get a chance but if that's the rumored trade, I'm huge into it. Most of Rangers twitter has been sweating this one out.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:11 pm

Looks like this is the team so far: it's pretty bad. There has to be a ton of side deals

Forwards
Brandon Tanev PIT
Yani Gourde TBL
Jonas Donskoi COL
Jordan Eberle NYI
Calle Jarnkrok NSH
Mason Appleton WPG
Jared McCan TOR
Kole Lind VAN
Carsen Twarnyski PHI
Morgan Geekie CAR
Nathan Bastien NJD
Tyler Pitlick ARX
Alexander True SJ
John Quenneville CHI
Colin Blakwell NYR

Defensemen
Giordano CGY
Larsen EDM
Oleksiauk DAL
Dunn STL
Kurtis Macdermid LAK
Carson Soucy MIN
Jeremy Lauzon BOS
Hayden Fleury ANA
Cale Fleury MTL
Wil Borgen BUF
Gavin Bayreuther CBJ

Goalies
Driedger FLA
Vanecek WSH
Daccord OTT

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:17 pm

Pretty cheezy...

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:19 pm

Vanacek has potential. There were rumblings that Samsonov was inching towards getting dropped for just generally being a douche.

But his upside is probably higher than Vitek.