NFL Week 18 - the extra week

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:16 pm

Real, or looking to get Michigan to put up at least what PSU and MSU paid out?

Being a college coach, even at his stratosphere, seems so much more enjoyable than the NFL gig.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:17 pm

Maybe real? He can Costanza it - finally beat tOSU and made playoff...

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:38 pm

Stating the obvious: A version of this story has run every year since he got to Ann Arbor.

The guy lives in a house on the same street as Bo's family home. He's a king in that town. He's finally (apparently) got the momentum in the right direction.

Anything's possible, I guess.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:41 pm

I'm not prepared to drink all the milk and wear all the khakis that being a fan of the Bears would require if he returns to the franchise that drafted him.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:56 pm

Your Week 18 playoff scenarios

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:58 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:56 pm Your Week 18 playoff scenarios

Hate crime.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:38 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:58 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:56 pm Your Week 18 playoff scenarios

Hate crime.

Browns need not apply?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:22 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:50 pm

Unrelated to Joe Judge’s weird press conference Sunday I’m sure!

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:11 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:26 pm

Love it:

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:16 am

what...precisely...did Tampa think would happen when they brought in Antonio Brown? I guess it's all good because they won last year. But I confess to taking some delight from seeing Brady and Arians burned a little for the hubris.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:12 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:16 am what...precisely...did Tampa think would happen when they brought in Antonio Brown? I guess it's all good because they won last year. But I confess to taking some delight from seeing Brady and Arians burned a little for the hubris.

I saw Brown speak out, and I'm wondering about his story. He claimed he told Arians his ankle was too injured to continue playing, Arians told him if he doesn't play hurt, he is getting cut. Brown said his ankle is fractured, has bone fragments, the ligament is torn from the bone and cartilage damage. If true, it's fucked up they made him play. He came in with an injury designation after sitting out due to an ankle injury in practice. I watched the game, he was moving well, but he said they shot him up with pain killers. No excuse for the tantrum (other than CTE or mental illness), but I have some sympathy for him if the extent of the injuries are true.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:14 am

Sure.

I was mostly referencing the instagram broadsides this AM on top of everything else this week with him. It's all...a lot. And I am glad to see it blow up a bit on Brady and Arians.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:52 am

I'm not "in the know", but doesn't Arians have a reputation as an extreme players' coach?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:40 pm

Yeah, I'd have to hear from a doctor that Brown was injured before I believe his story. Self-serving, after-the-fact excuse, from a guy who's done that repeatedly in the past.

pruitt2 · Post by **pruitt2** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:04 pm

I'm not unsympathetic to Antonio Brown - he may have CTE (or he may just be a complete asshole) - but at this point, he has as much credibility as Donald Trump.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:22 pm

He for sure seems far more tragedy than asshole.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:56 pm

Rodgers saying eh writer who wouldn't vote for him is a bum reminds of the John Mulaney skit about newspaper headlines, but with bum instead of bozo.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:04 pm

Probably truth to both parts.

Team convinced Brown to take the painkiller to play in the game, say that they needed him. Brown agrees, lots of targets, etc. He had bonuses worth 2$ million he could get.

Brown then got pissed off about not getting targets did what Brown does and was pissed about it.

Brown probably actually hurt gets told to go back in the game, he says no because of his injury (and because he's pissed off because of targets), and Arians gets pissed off thinking it has nothing to do with the injury and it's just about targets.

Also, what’s the chance Brown didn’t know there was another week of football this year?

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:58 pm

Fired Bucs star Antonio Brown smuggled OnlyFans model - who went viral for licking a toilet seat in 2020 - into his hotel for a steamy sex romp and told her to watch 'what I do tomorrow' - the night before he stormed off the field

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10367913/N ... tdown.html

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:01 pm

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:52 pm

Baloney wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:58 pm Fired Bucs star Antonio Brown smuggled OnlyFans model - who went viral for licking a toilet seat in 2020 - into his hotel for a steamy sex romp and told her to watch 'what I do tomorrow' - the night before he stormed off the field

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10367913/N ... tdown.html

In fairness, he was playing against the Jets and expected to put up 200 yards and 3 TDs.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:18 pm

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:09 pm

And then, both Brandon Weeden and DeShone Kizer emerged from the ether to post endorsements of Mayfield’s tweet.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:08 am

Baloney wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:58 pm Fired Bucs star Antonio Brown smuggled OnlyFans model - who went viral for licking a toilet seat in 2020 - into his hotel for a steamy sex romp and told her to watch 'what I do tomorrow' - the night before he stormed off the field

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10367913/N ... tdown.html

I believe she also went bacterial

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:25 am

Not sure where I thought NFL teams playing in the Meadowlands stayed, but I definitely wouldn't have guessed Newport Centre.

pruitt2 · Post by **pruitt2** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:19 pm

How do bad teams stay bad?

Report: Jaguars have interest in Bill O’Brien as head coach

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:47 pm

if it wasn't already clear, BO'B's a very successful NFL coach. is he a successful personnel guy? nope. but it's bizarre that he's automatically viewed as a bad coach by folks because of those failures with too much control despite posting winning seasons in five of the six full seasons he coached

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:07 pm

Ah, but he was 9-7 and undefeated against the Jags in three of those seasons!

Post by **brian** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:17 pm

They were also looking at Jim Caldwell as well, who is also a winning coach, but is similarly uninspiring (and possibly a Rooney Rule interview anyway).

It's understandable to go with someone stable and with head coaching experience after the Urban debacle, but it just seems like that route so seldom works out. Those guys are usually retreads for a reason.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:42 pm

brian wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:17 pm They were also looking at Jim Caldwell as well, who is also a winning coach, but is similarly uninspiring (and possibly a Rooney Rule interview anyway).

It's understandable to go with someone stable and with head coaching experience after the Urban debacle, but it just seems like that route so seldom works out. Those guys are usually retreads for a reason.

Pretty sure Adam Gase is available.

Rams Fanny · Post by **Rams Fanny** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:58 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:47 pm if it wasn't already clear, BO'B's a very successful NFL coach. is he a successful personnel guy? nope. but it's bizarre that he's automatically viewed as a bad coach by folks because of those failures with too much control despite posting winning seasons in five of the six full seasons he coached

NFL coach? Sure. He was undoubtably a key role in several successful Patriots seasons. NFL Head Coach? debatable. He was 52-48 RS 2-4 Playoffs. He did win 4 divisions in 5 years but he only really had to get by Indy those years and only in 2018 did Luck play a full season. He was also an analytics whipping boy for his 4th down decisions. Sadly I think he still may be considered one of the better candidates but I believe his HC ceiling is mediocre.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:04 pm

Rams Fanny wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:58 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:47 pm if it wasn't already clear, BO'B's a very successful NFL coach. is he a successful personnel guy? nope. but it's bizarre that he's automatically viewed as a bad coach by folks because of those failures with too much control despite posting winning seasons in five of the six full seasons he coached
NFL coach? Sure. He was undoubtably a key role in several successful Patriots seasons. NFL Head Coach? debatable. He was 52-48 RS 2-4 Playoffs. He did win 4 divisions in 5 years but he only really had to get by Indy those years and only in 2018 did Luck play a full season. He was also an analytics whipping boy for his 4th down decisions. Sadly I think he still may be considered one of the better candidates but I believe his HC ceiling is mediocre.

He was also terrible at challenges. He would not be able to decide whether to challenge or not so he'd call a timeout to think about it, and let his guys look it it longer. Then he would challenge and lose thus losing another timeout. If it's not clear and obvious, your guys could look at it for an hour and it's not going to be reversed.

duff · Post by **duff** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:05 pm

Rams Fanny wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:58 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:47 pm if it wasn't already clear, BO'B's a very successful NFL coach. is he a successful personnel guy? nope. but it's bizarre that he's automatically viewed as a bad coach by folks because of those failures with too much control despite posting winning seasons in five of the six full seasons he coached
NFL coach? Sure. He was undoubtably a key role in several successful Patriots seasons. NFL Head Coach? debatable. He was 52-48 RS 2-4 Playoffs. He did win 4 divisions in 5 years but he only really had to get by Indy those years and only in 2018 did Luck play a full season. He was also an analytics whipping boy for his 4th down decisions. Sadly I think he still may be considered one of the better candidates but I believe his HC ceiling is mediocre.

It's Jacksonville, mediocre is an improvement.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:35 pm

Mediocre is an improvement in most places. His Texans teams were solid from what I remember. You could just as easy look at Vrabel and assume he's a much better coach than OBrien based on his record but I think that would be wrong.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:57 pm

Rams Fanny wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:58 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:47 pm if it wasn't already clear, BO'B's a very successful NFL coach. is he a successful personnel guy? nope. but it's bizarre that he's automatically viewed as a bad coach by folks because of those failures with too much control despite posting winning seasons in five of the six full seasons he coached
NFL coach? Sure. He was undoubtably a key role in several successful Patriots seasons. NFL Head Coach? debatable. He was 52-48 RS 2-4 Playoffs. He did win 4 divisions in 5 years but he only really had to get by Indy those years and only in 2018 did Luck play a full season. He was also an analytics whipping boy for his 4th down decisions. Sadly I think he still may be considered one of the better candidates but I believe his HC ceiling is mediocre.

three of those six playoff games were started by Brian Hoyer and Brock Osweiler

pruitt2 · Post by **pruitt2** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:24 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:57 pm
Rams Fanny wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:58 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:47 pm if it wasn't already clear, BO'B's a very successful NFL coach. is he a successful personnel guy? nope. but it's bizarre that he's automatically viewed as a bad coach by folks because of those failures with too much control despite posting winning seasons in five of the six full seasons he coached
NFL coach? Sure. He was undoubtably a key role in several successful Patriots seasons. NFL Head Coach? debatable. He was 52-48 RS 2-4 Playoffs. He did win 4 divisions in 5 years but he only really had to get by Indy those years and only in 2018 did Luck play a full season. He was also an analytics whipping boy for his 4th down decisions. Sadly I think he still may be considered one of the better candidates but I believe his HC ceiling is mediocre.
three of those six playoff games were started by Brian Hoyer and Brock Osweiler

And his two playoff wins were against rookie Josh Allen (followed by blowing a 24 point lead the next week) and Connor Cook.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:42 pm

so we've basically gone back to the point that he's a perfectly fine coach in that role

eta: it's impossible to say whether anyone will succeed in Jacksonville given the environment. but a team with a young No. 1 pick QB could do worse than the guy who helped develop Deshaun Watson and is the offensive coordinator for a Heisman winner in his first season as a starter on an offense that lost almost all its key skill position contributors to the NFL. ignoring that and his record and pretending he's a terrible NFL coach -- again, in that role -- because the end of his tenure went poorly after he got too much power is willful ignorance

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:40 pm

So Bill O'Brien is likely getting another HC job in the AFC South...

He had been really successful in Houston, with four division titles in 6 and a bit years. His only losing season involved DeShaun Watson getting an ACL injury early. I think he had been fired prior to Watson making some interesting personal choices during back rubs, but the personnel decisions around DeAndre Hopkins and the acquisition of a left tackle were huge mistakes.

I get him having another HC'ing opportunity, as I think he was a very good HC at Houston. I think looking at him in the AFC South is odd, as I think there is too much baggage around those personnel decisions.

If he goes to the Jags, I hope he gets to make all the personnel decisions (including trades), because he is a thunder cunt with those. If he is just getting the gig as a HC, then I think he'll do a great job...