A non-masters/majors golf thread 2022

[Reaper]

The other thread said 2014-2021, so does that mean we start a new one? Well, here we go. Everyone's going to need a shower after this.

[degenerasian]

There was another one today. I can't imagine smelling like beer the entire day though.

[govmentchedda]

Unfortunately, I can.

[pruitt2]

Unfortunately, I can.

Ha!

I guess Degen's never tailgated.

[brian]

Fire destroys iconic clubhouse at Oakland Hills CC.

[pruitt2]

Holy Shit! Phil Mickelson Is Now My Most Hated Athlete

"... They killed [Washington Post reporter and U.S. resident Jamal] Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights," Mickelson continued, in an interview that Shipnuck said took place in November. "They execute people over there for being gay. Knowing all of this, why would I even consider it? Because this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates."

[EnochRoot]

Holy Shit! Phil Mickelson Is Now My Most Hated Athlete

"... They killed [Washington Post reporter and U.S. resident Jamal] Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights," Mickelson continued, in an interview that Shipnuck said took place in November. "They execute people over there for being gay. Knowing all of this, why would I even consider it? Because this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates."

He's a bigger moron than Qaaron Rodgers.

[degenerasian]

Who's going to watch golf with a 11 hour time difference. We talked about this in the Olympic thread.
Any network that pays for the rights to 12 guys playing with 100 amateurs 11 hours away are morons.

Now if they played all tournaments at night under the lights, that might be interesting.

[Rex]

What are we going to do without Phil Mickelson as our moral compass?

[DaveInSeattle]

Holy Shit! Phil Mickelson Is Now My Most Hated Athlete

"... They killed [Washington Post reporter and U.S. resident Jamal] Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights," Mickelson continued, in an interview that Shipnuck said took place in November. "They execute people over there for being gay. Knowing all of this, why would I even consider it? Because this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates."

Over on The Defector, the general consensus amongst the commenters is that Phil has some serious gambling debts that he needs to pay off.

[DaveInSeattle]

What are we going to do without Phil Mickelson as our moral compass?

But Jim Nantz calls him 'The People's Champion!'

[degenerasian]

Ask Pat Perez one question... wasn't even a question.

[DaveInSeattle]

Who's going to watch golf with a 11 hour time difference. We talked about this in the Olympic thread.
Any network that pays for the rights to 12 guys playing with 100 amateurs 11 hours away are morons.

Now if they played all tournaments at night under the lights, that might be interesting.

What about it they play here in the US?



Probably the least surprising thing ever.

[Rex]

Well they probably stop being “lucrative” as soon as Numbnuts gets his hands on them.

[degenerasian]

FIGJAM posted a massive apology, of sorts.

Talk about torpedoing his career in an instant.

[Rex]

Gonna be British Open conditions at Sawgrass this weekend

[degenerasian]

When there no wind it's playing easy. Lift-clean-place and soft greens for these guys?

Guys playing today will try to get 2 rounds in.

[degenerasian]

When there no wind it's playing easy. Lift-clean-place and soft greens for these guys?

Guys playing today will try to get 2 rounds in.

Guys playing today could not even get one round in. First Round to resume tomorrow at 11am.

[degenerasian]

Play is underway with sunny skies and high winds.
Three guys who came out and had to play 17 immediately, Scheffler, Schauffle, Koepka all in the water.

I don't know if anyone will hit the green!

[Rex]

ESPN+ has a featured holes feed that includes 17 today and I highly suggest it

[HaulCitgo]

Lol

[HaulCitgo]

Rory shanked it on. Other dude was solid.

[degenerasian]

How the pros play 17



How I would play 17

[degenerasian]

more golfers playing like me

[brian]

Oakland Hills CC awarded 2051 US Open. Over/under on how many of us are still alive?

[Ryan]

Like 10. Oh wait you mean just Swampers?

[Rex]

Yeah baby. The PGA Tour wants to fight, and I want to watch this fight.

[A_B]

I don’t even understand how they can do that.

[Rex]

I don't think they can physically stop them, but they can impose fines and other penalties I guess.

At the end of the day, it's all about whether Augusta changes its invitation criteria to exclude (or accommodate) the guys who play the Saudi tour.

[A_B]

They can certainly change the rules for their membership I suppose but it’s ridiculous because they’ve had no problem with guys going to other one off events.

I think it’s a stupid idea and that the big names are better off on the pga tour but how you gonna tell independent contractors they can’t do something.

[Sabo]

I don’t even understand how they can do that.

IIRC, if you’re a PGA Tour member, you have to get the tour’s permission to play in non-PGA events if there’s a Tour stop that same weekend. So the PGA has always had some say as to where players can play.

[Rex]

It’s true that the PGA Tour has given permission in the past, but generally that is in situations where the Tour’s business interests aren’t really threatened. It’s pretty clear that this situation is different from the traditional circumstance (like a foreign player wanting to play in his home country, I would guess).

I honestly don’t know what the Tour can do. Individual tournaments have criteria for entry and could tweak them. The problem for the Tour is that through the FedEx Cup standings, they have created a very easy way for any established player to meet those criteria without having to play every week. The Players invites the entire top 125, and that is also the same cutoff for the FedEx Cup playoffs and a possible shot at the Tour Championship. And those are the only two needle moving events that the Tour controls. The majors are run by other orgs that have their own criteria, and the Ryder Cup is run by the R&A and various PGA orgs (not the Tour).

At the same time, I’m not sure the players have a ton of leverage, because there’s only so much golf that people are going to care about and it feels like the Saudi league is going to fall on the wrong side of that line. That’s why I want to watch this fight!