The East Palestine, Ohio thing

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:21 am

Anyone got a better handle on that than I do? (and I don't have much) - little media coverage, reports of reporters being arrested who are trying to cover it - dead chickens - toxic plume from trail derailment - etc. A lot there that seems noteworthy/bad but relatively little heat around it...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am

Wish I could light a swamp west of France flare to get pents' thoughts...

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:11 am

Definitely a story that I’ve been aware of on the periphery of Twitter but hadn’t paid too much attention to other than the reporter being arrested the other day. Some of the photos are just otherworldly.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:01 am

Here's a couple tweets with links.

https://qz.com/norfolk-southern-is-givi ... 1850094599

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:45 am

Isn’t this the cover story they used in Close Encounters to clear everyone out so they could meet the aliens in secret?

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:47 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Wish I could light a swamp west of France flare to get pents' thoughts...

Maybe he’s not seeing it because he’s in the east of France? (Or Czechia or wherever he’s been tweeting from lately.)

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:53 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Wish I could light a swamp west of France flare to get pents' thoughts...

“Oh my gosh I can’t believe I just dropped my keys on the floor of the gay steel mill! And on tight-jeans Friday of all days! Welp, no choice but to slowly bend over and pick them up…”

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:54 am

With the amount of 'current event' sources I'm plugged into daily I only heard of this yesterday in a group chat I'm in with friends.

Hell even the 'Out of The Loop' subreddit thread, only started 11 hours ago, has 6 comments and seems to be 'Out of The Loop' itself.

Here's the most complete answer from that:

The best thread on Reddit seems to be this one:

Basically nothing when you look at the scale and severity of what happened and how quickly things with outcomes like this go viral.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:21 pm

That's just up the way from where three of the four of my grandparents are from. Sounds unbelievably bad.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:17 pm

Did that dog just get the booster?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:35 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:47 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Wish I could light a swamp west of France flare to get pents' thoughts...
Maybe he’s not seeing it because he’s in the east of France? (Or Czechia or wherever he’s been tweeting from lately.)

A likely excuse

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:37 pm

Thanks johnnie. I had seen some Twitter stuff but can’t really tell anymore there what I can trust.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:31 pm

When people talk about American "FREEDOM!", this is pretty much the only type of unique freedom that the US truly offers and it's the freedom for giant corps to poison your family.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:04 pm

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:31 pm When people talk about American "FREEDOM!", this is pretty much the only type of unique freedom that the US truly offers and it's the freedom for giant corps to poison your family.

Yep. Today’s GOP would freak the fuck out and create a culture war over the fascist Dems trying to take their lead paint, asbestos and flammable rivers.

And other than this thread, I hadn’t heard about this story, which is crazy.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:06 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:17 pm Did that dog just get the booster?

And this was fucking hilarious.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:08 am

Related...

And, just for fun...

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:48 pm

Sorry guys. Was living my best life in the alps the past few days.

God knows what was on the rail cars, and im not sure we’ve heard what they were moving. Just note that most of the nastiest shit that gets moved around the country does so by rail. Liability on the highway is significantly higher.

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:49 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:17 pm Did that dog just get the booster?

A+

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:03 pm

Square Rob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:49 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:17 pm Did that dog just get the booster?
A+

That’s a good call. Making a funny dead dog joke deserves recognition.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:13 pm

Square Rob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:48 pm Sorry guys. Was living my best life in the alps the past few days.

God knows what was on the rail cars, and im not sure we’ve heard what they were moving. Just note that most of the nastiest shit that gets moved around the country does so by rail. Liability on the highway is significantly higher.

here's some detail - but have no idea if this is all that was exposed and burned

https://apnews.com/article/rail-acciden ... e9a50ef6c7

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:43 pm

Not much o an update, but here's the Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... residents/

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:53 pm

Ok, so vinyl chloride gas is heavier than air. Which means it will mostly stay along the ground and could settle in pockets if undisturbed. Like in basements or cellars where there’s no wind. And if it was coming out and not getting combusted from the fire could have settled anywhere downwind. Description of it says it smells pleasant as well, so it’s entirely possible that lets are smelling out dense pockets of stuff and getting higher exposures. Phosgene gas is also nasty, and they would have been generating a lot. Also heavier than air, so same things apply.

Other thing that happens with denser than air gasses is asphyxiation. If the gasses collect in a low lying spot, one might not know they got into a concentrated area then be unable to breathe and get out. That’s the really dangerous part in industry anymore. No one in that immediate area needs to be going into a basement without an air monitor for a bit.

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:56 pm

One other point, phosgene was legit used in some of the gas weapons in ww1. So the fact they were burning the original stuff to make phosgene should be all you need to know. Now phosgene is not like the mustard gas or chlorine they were using to kill in ww1, nowhere near as lethal. But still.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:32 am

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:40 am

East Palesteen?? Why do small American towns do that? So weird.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:43 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:40 am East Palesteen?? Why do small American towns do that? So weird.

All the Ohio small towns that have the same name as a city/country elsewhere on the planet all pronounce them in a different fashion, except for Peru. For example, Lima is "LIE-mah".

Post by **Sabo** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:49 am

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:43 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:40 am East Palesteen?? Why do small American towns do that? So weird.
All the Ohio small towns that have the same name as a city/country elsewhere on the planet all pronounce them in a different fashion, except for Peru. For example, Lima is "LIE-mah".

Yeah, a lot of Ohio towns aren't pronounced like you think. Lima is a good example. Others:

Lancaster is pronounced like "LANK-es-ter".

Ironton is pronounced like "ARN-ton".

Russia (a small town outside of Dayton) is pronounced like "Roo-SHEE". Supposedly it was pronounced like you would expect but intentionally changed the pronunciation during the Cold War.

The dumbest one is Newark, which some people pronounce like "Nerk".

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:01 am

rass wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:03 pm
Square Rob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:49 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:17 pm Did that dog just get the booster?
A+
That’s a good call. Making a funny dead dog joke deserves recognition.

Seconded.

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:27 am

Sabo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:49 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:43 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:40 am East Palesteen?? Why do small American towns do that? So weird.
All the Ohio small towns that have the same name as a city/country elsewhere on the planet all pronounce them in a different fashion, except for Peru. For example, Lima is "LIE-mah".
Yeah, a lot of Ohio towns aren't pronounced like you think. Lima is a good example. Others:

Lancaster is pronounced like "LANK-es-ter".

Ironton is pronounced like "ARN-ton".

Russia (a small town outside of Dayton) is pronounced like "Roo-SHEE". Supposedly it was pronounced like you would expect but intentionally changed the pronunciation during the Cold War.

The dumbest one is Newark, which some people pronounce like "Nerk".

Bellaire pronounced Blair another one

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:51 pm

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:21 pm

Jeebus.

Pruitt IV · Post by **Pruitt IV** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:12 pm

I get a real Chernobyl vibe looking at those people amidst that death sludge.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:16 pm

Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:12 pm I get a real Chernobyl vibe looking at those people amidst that death sludge.

*East Chernobyl. (Pronounced "sher-no-BEEL" because Ohio)

Post by **Shirley** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:29 pm

AY-rab, Alabama (Arab)
Ver-SAILS, Kentucky (Versailles)

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:33 pm

Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:12 pm I get a real Chernobyl vibe looking at those people amidst that death sludge.

That was my thought. Unless I was already dying of cancer, I'm not getting anywhere that place. Take that job and shove it.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:34 pm

New Hampshire has BURR-lin (Berlin) and Leb-a-nin (Lebanon) and probably like 14 others that Ryan knows.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:47 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:16 pm
Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:12 pm I get a real Chernobyl vibe looking at those people amidst that death sludge.
*East Chernobyl. (Pronounced "sher-no-BEEL" because Ohio)

Making a funny annihilated town with thousands of dead residents joke deserves recognition.

(I LOL'd)

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:59 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:34 pm New Hampshire has BURR-lin (Berlin) and Leb-a-nin (Lebanon) and probably like 14 others that Ryan knows.

Wait...how am I supposed to pronounce Berlin? Is it the second syllable that's off? Inverted emphasis?

Lebanin, Lank-a-stir and Ver-sales are all on kentucky's list.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:00 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:47 pm
Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:16 pm
Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:12 pm I get a real Chernobyl vibe looking at those people amidst that death sludge.
*East Chernobyl. (Pronounced "sher-no-BEEL" because Ohio)
Making a funny annihilated town with thousands of dead residents joke deserves recognition.

(I LOL'd)

People forget how bad North Chernobyl had it. Same fate as North Orange. Not even on the map anymore.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:49 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:59 pm
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:34 pm New Hampshire has BURR-lin (Berlin) and Leb-a-nin (Lebanon) and probably like 14 others that Ryan knows.
Wait...how am I supposed to pronounce Berlin? Is it the second syllable that's off? Inverted emphasis?

Lebanin, Lank-a-stir and Ver-sales are all on kentucky's list.

BER-lin New Hampshire
Ber-LIN Germany
BER-LIN-WALL
Pirates of the Cari-BER-lin