NHL 2022-23

[sancarlos]

The Sharks retained 50% of Timo Meier’s contract, too.

I’m disappointed in a small deal the Sharks made with Tampa Bay. They’re supposed to be rebuilding, and now they trade a fine 26 year-old 2nd/3rd/4th line pest who does all the little things well, Mikey Eyssimont, for 30 year-old Namestnikov? Make it make sense.

[govmentchedda]

I don't get it from either side, but i know less than zero about Eyssimont, if that even is a real person.

[bapo!]

Caps were part of that cattle call... That return seems pretty ridiculous.

I know how it feels, Linner. It was reported that the Pens coach asked GM Ron Hextall specifically to trade for Chychrun. That obviously did not happen. But Hextall just dumped Teddy Blueger (likeable bottom-sixer having a disappointing season) and picked up Mikael Granlund (who is the 2023 version of Mikael Granlund).

In other news, the Oilers (McDavid, of course) scored on their first power play after trading Tyson Barrie. Evan Bouchard can handle the power-play point. I don't miss Barrie at all! (I miss Barrie.) And then McDavid scored again. Gorgeous goal. He's been a joy to watch this year.

[sancarlos]

I don't get it from either side, but i know less than zero about Eyssimont, if that even is a real person.

I think he is good, if not hugely talented. One of those guys you always notice, throwing his body around and trying hard.

[mister d]

Unless he’s a huge dick why would SJ be trading him and taking on money for a pending UFA? Just doesn’t make any logical sense.

[mister d]

Like the only logic is “SJ loves Namestnikov and think this gives them the best chance of signing him” but it’s Namestnikov.

[govmentchedda]

Vladdy seems like an affable gent, but he doesn't bring much to the table. Curious what this means for any other Bolts moves. Now that they paid so much for Jeannot, maybe they make a cheap deal?

[sancarlos]

Unless he’s a huge dick why would SJ be trading him and taking on money for a pending UFA? Just doesn’t make any logical sense.

Guys on Sharks twitter say they plan to flip Namestinkov and believe they’ll get value for him. (Shrugs).

[MaxWebster]

what shouldn't be lost amidst all the trades and chatter is the Swamp nickname "Linner" here.

Caps were part of that cattle call... That return seems pretty ridiculous.

I know how it feels, Linner. It was reported that the Pens coach asked GM Ron Hextall specifically to trade for Chychrun. That obviously did not happen. But Hextall just dumped Teddy Blueger (likeable bottom-sixer having a disappointing season) and picked up Mikael Granlund (who is the 2023 version of Mikael Granlund).

In other news, the Oilers (McDavid, of course) scored on their first power play after trading Tyson Barrie. Evan Bouchard can handle the power-play point. I don't miss Barrie at all! (I miss Barrie.) And then McDavid scored again. Gorgeous goal. He's been a joy to watch this year.

[mister d]

Bruins now have one pick before the 3rd round (their 2025 1st) in the next three drafts.

[govmentchedda]

Bruins now have one pick before the 3rd round (their 2025 1st) in the next three drafts.

Same with Bolts

[Nonlinear FC]

what shouldn't be lost amidst all the trades and chatter is the Swamp nickname "Linner" here.

Caps were part of that cattle call... That return seems pretty ridiculous.

I know how it feels, Linner. It was reported that the Pens coach asked GM Ron Hextall specifically to trade for Chychrun. That obviously did not happen. But Hextall just dumped Teddy Blueger (likeable bottom-sixer having a disappointing season) and picked up Mikael Granlund (who is the 2023 version of Mikael Granlund).

In other news, the Oilers (McDavid, of course) scored on their first power play after trading Tyson Barrie. Evan Bouchard can handle the power-play point. I don't miss Barrie at all! (I miss Barrie.) And then McDavid scored again. Gorgeous goal. He's been a joy to watch this year.

I had a woman at the grocery store compliment my hair this morning. (Attractive older black woman, for those keeping score.)

I'm on a fucking roll, swampfriends.

[bapo!]

Bruins now have one pick before the 3rd round (their 2025 1st) in the next three drafts.

Same with Bolts

I'm sure that fans of these teams are willing to trade a bad prospect pipeline in five years for a Cup now. Tampa already has a couple. Boston has the best team in the league. This is the time to load up.

[sancarlos]

So, bapo!, do you think the Oil will roll with Skinner in the playoffs? He’s been better than Campbell for most of the season, but might they feel obligated to go with the veteran with the big contract?

(I guess the Wild have the same issue between Gustavson and MAF.)

[bapo!]

So, bapo!, do you think the Oil will roll with Skinner in the playoffs? He’s been better than Campbell for most of the season, but might they feel obligated to go with the veteran with the big contract?

(I guess the Wild have the same issue between Gustavson and MAF.)

There's no way that the Oilers can count on Campbell in the playoffs. They have to play Skinner. Unless Ken Holland is able to pick up somebody else before the deadline, but I don't see how that's possible. (They're already in salary-cap purgatory and can't even carry a full line-up, and they're not going to carry three goalies.)

I'm a Campbell fan, been following his career since his junior days in Windsor. His rise with the Leafs a couple of years ago after fumbling around for a decade was a great story. When the Oilers signed him last summer, I thought it was too much money and too much term for somebody I didn't completely trust, but it was worth a shot given the lack of available options. It hasn't worked out, and now Edmonton is stuck with another bad contract.

I was just looking at his stats compared to the rest of the league. It's not a pretty picture. He's ranked 11th if you sort alphabetically, but down in the 70s for most other stats. Thanks for asking, sc, but thinking about Campbell makes me sad.

[mister d]

Campbell seems like an exceptionally easy guy to root for.

[bapo!]

Campbell seems like an exceptionally easy guy to root for.

When he signed last summer, the line was that the Oilers probably had the friendliest goalies in the league. But a friendly goalie with an .884 save percentage doesn't really help much.

The Columbus game last weekend was a killer. He gave up 4 goals on 14 shots. Then McDavid led a superhuman comeback and tied the game, only to lose, 6-5. It was maybe McDavid's best game of the year, but it was wasted because of Campbell.

[mister d]

It kinda feels like you should just never pay for a UFA goalie, even if you badly need a goalie. Like Ullmark has obviously worked out on a very similar deal, but goalies are such freaks that the ones you can safely bet will be top ~10 just aren't available.

[bapo!]

It kinda feels like you should just never pay for a UFA goalie, even if you badly need a goalie. Like Ullmark has obviously worked out on a very similar deal, but goalies are such freaks that the ones you can safely bet will be top ~10 just aren't available.

Þ Goalies are black magic. It's impossible to tell which ones are going to be starters in the league. And then, once they're good, you don't know how long they're going to continue to be good. They're like pitchers or running backs -- the wheels could fall off at any moment.

Þ Getting back to Arizona, I see that they just traded for Jakub Voracek's contract. Voracek has concussion issues and will probably never play again. Similar to Shea Weber, and Arizona just traded for his contract, too. Over half of their salary cap is tied up in players on LTIR, salary retention, or salary dumps.

I might cry if Connor Bedard has to play there. Or Fantilli, or Michkov, or Carlsson. Or anybody good, ever again.

[bapo!]

TradeCentre on TSN! Had no idea that this would be simulcast on ESPN+, so I don't even need to look for a stream on some sketchy Russian site.

They've been on the air since 8:00. Is there anything left worth talking about at this point? There have been over 40 trades made in the past couple of weeks. Who else is available? But that won't stop me from watching. I love this stuff. If my options are a) watching a hockey show for five hours and being disappointed when nothing happens, or b) going outside and living a rich, fulfilling life, well, I think the choice is easy.

Vrana to the Blues. Bonino back to the Penguins.

[DSafetyGuy]

Yzerman clearing up the roster glut of forwards. Sundquist and Suter are apparently available, as well, although that was before Vrana got moved.

[bapo!]

Yzerman clearing up the roster glut of forwards. Sundquist and Suter are apparently available, as well, although that was before Vrana got moved.

I doubt if the Vrana move has any bearing on anybody else on the roster. Didn't seem to be a part of their plans going forward. Is he even going to stay in the NHL after this season, or is he going back to Europe? Either way, I hope he can get his life in order.

Related: Spencer Knight, the Florida goalie, is now in the league's player-assistance program. I always pull for those guys.

[degenerasian]

TradeCentre on TSN! Had no idea that this would be simulcast on ESPN+, so I don't even need to look for a stream on some sketchy Russian site.

They've been on the air since 8:00. Is there anything left worth talking about at this point? There have been over 40 trades made in the past couple of weeks. Who else is available? But that won't stop me from watching. I love this stuff. If my options are a) watching a hockey show for five hours and being disappointed when nothing happens, or b) going outside and living a rich, fulfilling life, well, I think the choice is easy.

Vrana to the Blues. Bonino back to the Penguins.

It'll be interesting to see what the Flames do. High hopes going into the season but will definitely miss the playoffs. Would be insane to buy, probably will want to stand pat but what if they get offers that they can't refuse, seeing how the Eastern arms race is going. Rumors are there is interest in Weegar. Imagine signing a player to a 8 year extension and then trading him before that extension even kicks in.

And then most of the other Flames, Backlund, Lindholm, Tofolli, Hanifin, Tanev. Zadorov, Dube, have one more year.

[mister d]

Rumors are there is interest in Weegar. Imagine signing a player to a 8 year extension and then trading him before that extension even kicks in.

Apparently Vancouver could have done that with JT Miller to Pittsburgh but then backed out because the return wasn't perfect. That won't haunt the franchise.

[bapo!]

Rumors are there is interest in Weegar. Imagine signing a player to a 8 year extension and then trading him before that extension even kicks in.

Can a team get away with this? Like, why would a future free agent sign long-term if he's just going to be flipped a few months later? (This is part of the conversation with the Oilers and Campbell now, too.)

The Flames are fascinating. I thought they rebounded pretty well by essentially exchanging Gaudreau and Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, and Kadri, but it hasn't worked out yet. They're 5 points out of a playoff spot. Still some time left. If they start winning a few of those one-goal games, they'll be in it.

[mister d]

I feel like some of the more beautiful swampers weren't nearly so bullish on the Calgary side of the trade and specifically Huberdeau.

[degenerasian]

Rumors are there is interest in Weegar. Imagine signing a player to a 8 year extension and then trading him before that extension even kicks in.

Can a team get away with this? Like, why would a future free agent sign long-term if he's just going to be flipped a few months later? (This is part of the conversation with the Oilers and Campbell now, too.)

The Flames are fascinating. I thought they rebounded pretty well by essentially exchanging Gaudreau and Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, and Kadri, but it hasn't worked out yet. They're 5 points out of a playoff spot. Still some time left. If they start winning a few of those one-goal games, they'll be in it.

5 points is almost impossible to make up in the loser point system. Plus the Flames have played more games than anyone around them.

[degenerasian]

I feel like some of the more beautiful swampers weren't nearly so bullish on the Calgary side of the trade and specifically Huberdeau.

Panthers are going to miss the playoffs too so that trade helped nobody!

[mister d]

Sure, but Tkachuk is playing better and is well on the right side of 30. There's no reason for long-term concern on their side.

[bapo!]

Florida's best player has missed a bunch of games due to injury, and their 1B goalie is in rehab. Tkachuk is still Tkachuk. There's a lot to like on that roster. They'll be better next year.

Thanks for linking to the offseason thread. Funny to see Degen's concern about trading Huberdeau at the deadline if Calgary was in first place. Oh, if only Calgary had that problem.

[mister d]

I thought they explicitly announced Knight wasn't substance related?

[DSafetyGuy]

Yzerman clearing up the roster glut of forwards. Sundquist and Suter are apparently available, as well, although that was before Vrana got moved.

I doubt if the Vrana move has any bearing on anybody else on the roster. Didn't seem to be a part of their plans going forward. Is he even going to stay in the NHL after this season, or is he going back to Europe? Either way, I hope he can get his life in order.

Related: Spencer Knight, the Florida goalie, is now in the league's player-assistance program. I always pull for those guys.

I don't think the Vrana move does, either. He's under contract for next season and I hope he finds a successful way back from whatever the issue is, as well.

Trading Bertuzzi coupled with Rasmussen's season-ending injury opened up some roster flexibility. They called Adam Erne back up last night to play on the penalty kill, essentially replacing Rasmussen. They also don't want to send Berggren down, as well as possibly calling Elmer Soderblom back up. Basically, the sweep by Ottawa nudged them toward "make some room to play the young guys the rest of the way".

[bapo!]

I thought they explicitly announced Knight wasn't substance related?

Oh, really? Okay. I just read 'player-assistance program' and assumed that's what it meant. I haven't read much about it because I figured it was a private affair and I didn't need to know the details, yet here I am spreading unfounded rumors to the tens and tens of people reading this thread. I suck.

[mister d]

I think you're wonderful. But in general it sucks they feel the need to specify that stuff and that mental health is seen as better or more acceptable than addiction.

[bapo!]

It all falls under the same umbrella, but yeah, there's a difference in public perception. It's all horrible, no matter what the reason is.

[sancarlos]

Rumors are there is interest in Weegar. Imagine signing a player to a 8 year extension and then trading him before that extension even kicks in.

Can a team get away with this? Like, why would a future free agent sign long-term if he's just going to be flipped a few months later? (This is part of the conversation with the Oilers and Campbell now, too.)

The Flames are fascinating. I thought they rebounded pretty well by essentially exchanging Gaudreau and Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, and Kadri, but it hasn't worked out yet. They're 5 points out of a playoff spot. Still some time left. If they start winning a few of those one-goal games, they'll be in it.

Funny. The Flames and Panthers made that big trade and it looks like it could be the dreaded lose/lose deal.

I wonder if Erik Karlsson will get moved today. I’d love to see the Sharks get a haul of picks and prospects for him.

[sancarlos]

Unless he’s a huge dick why would SJ be trading him and taking on money for a pending UFA? Just doesn’t make any logical sense.

Flipped Namestnikov to Winnipeg for a 4th round pick. Nice moves by the Sharks. They essentially got the pick in return for a guy they picked up off waivers earlier this season.

[bapo!]

I wonder if Erik Karlsson will get moved today. I’d love to see the Sharks get a haul of picks and prospects for him.

I think that Edmonton was the only option, and the talk cooled down to 'maybe over the summer' a few days ago. Then the Oilers got Ekholm. If the Sharks do trade Karlsson, I'm guessing that the return at this point will be disappointing.

But then again, Ken Holland has been pretty clever this week. He got Nashville to retain 4% on Ekholm, and Arizona to retain 50% on Bjugstad. That leaves him with $167 of cap space to play with. A Karlsson trade is still possible if San Jose retains $11,499,833. Make it happen!

[mister d]

Unless he’s a huge dick why would SJ be trading him and taking on money for a pending UFA? Just doesn’t make any logical sense.

Flipped Namestnikov to Winnipeg for a 4th round pick. Nice moves by the Sharks. They essentially got the pick in return for a guy they picked up off waivers earlier this season.

Yup, makes sense now. Sharks > Mister D.

[mister d]

I couldn't be happier Lemiuex was traded to the Flyers. Reunited with the guy who he teamed up with to completely poison an entire locker room.