2023 MLB Regular Season

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:53 am

One of my favorite annual traditions in the Swamp is when Eric Davis’s name comes up and everyone is like “man, that guy was fucking good.”

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:05 am

duff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:38 am Finding it off seeing a Red wearing 44. I am sure others have worn it since ED, but Davis was a staple of my youth. And I haven't watch many Reds highlights or games since then either.

Can I introduce you to Adam Dunn?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:07 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:53 am One of my favorite annual traditions in the Swamp is when Eric Davis’s name comes up and everyone is like “man, that guy was fucking good.”

He was SO good!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:09 am

But…I cannot stress enough how much I love this -

Because SO many older generation reds fans are gonna hate it

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:37 am

This is so great to see.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:59 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:53 am One of my favorite annual traditions in the Swamp is when Eric Davis’s name comes up and everyone is like “man, that guy was fucking good.”

Even my love/lust for Grady Sizemore couldn’t displace Davis from the top spot on Guys I’d Like To See Get a Restart.

duff · Post by **duff** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:57 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:05 am
duff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:38 am Finding it off seeing a Red wearing 44. I am sure others have worn it since ED, but Davis was a staple of my youth. And I haven't watch many Reds highlights or games since then either.
Can I introduce you to Adam Dunn?

Never heard of him. All kidding aside, I didn't really watch much baseball during that time.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:11 am

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:59 am
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:53 am One of my favorite annual traditions in the Swamp is when Eric Davis’s name comes up and everyone is like “man, that guy was fucking good.”
Even my love/lust for Grady Sizemore couldn’t displace Davis from the top spot on Guys I’d Like To See Get a Restart.

Now I'm thinking about this again. 1987 Davis was a 25 year old CF, one of only two to reach 30 HR and 50 SB (Bonds the other) and his slash was just a tick below .300/.400/.600. If he had anything close to a standard career arc, his floor was 1st ballot HoF.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:17 am

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:11 am
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:59 am
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:53 am One of my favorite annual traditions in the Swamp is when Eric Davis’s name comes up and everyone is like “man, that guy was fucking good.”
Even my love/lust for Grady Sizemore couldn’t displace Davis from the top spot on Guys I’d Like To See Get a Restart.
Now I'm thinking about this again. 1987 Davis was a 25 year old CF, one of only two to reach 30 HR and 50 SB (Bonds the other) and his slash was just a tick below .300/.400/.600. If he had anything close to a standard career arc, his floor was 1st ballot HoF.

And his ceiling would be Willie Mays, II. I'm firmly convinced of that.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:29 am

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:11 am
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:59 am
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:53 am One of my favorite annual traditions in the Swamp is when Eric Davis’s name comes up and everyone is like “man, that guy was fucking good.”
Even my love/lust for Grady Sizemore couldn’t displace Davis from the top spot on Guys I’d Like To See Get a Restart.
Now I'm thinking about this again. 1987 Davis was a 25 year old CF, one of only two to reach 30 HR and 50 SB (Bonds the other) and his slash was just a tick below .300/.400/.600. If he had anything close to a standard career arc, his floor was 1st ballot HoF.

After a year and a half of sorting it out - the Eric Davis from Opening Day 1986 until he ran full speed into the brick wall at Wrigley in August of 1987 was the best baseball player I have ever seen. And it is not really that close.

I know I've put these stats in here before, but I am gonna do it again (call it early cranky old man privilege) -

1986 .277/.378/.523 - .901 OPS 27 HR 80 SB ---- EIGHTY STOLEN BASES
1987 .293/.399/.593 - .993 OPS 37 HR 50 SB --- if he doesn't run into the bricks and play Sept. hurt he goes 40/50
1988 .273/.363/.489 - . .852 OPS 26 HR 35 SB
1989 .281/.367/.541 - .908 OPS 34 HR 21 SB
1990 .260/.347/.486 - .833 OPS 24 HR 21 SB

He only played in 132, 129, 135, 131 and 127 games in those five years and still averaged .276/.370/.526 29 HR 41 SB - that's a five year run unlike most anyone outside of early Mike Trout and...again, from opening day '86 to the wall incident in August of 1987 I still haven't seen that matched. Oh, and played a defensive CF like a prime Griffey Jr....

Thank you for allowing me yet another Eric Davis interlude...

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:53 am

Hey, enough about Eric Davis, what about Kal Daniels, who hit like Lou Gehrig for a few seasons before fading?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:06 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:53 am Hey, enough about Eric Davis, what about Kal Daniels, who hit like Lou Gehrig for a few seasons before fading?

god he could hit.

Between 1984 - 1988 the Reds farm churned out Eric Davis, Kal Daniels, Paul O'Neill, Barry Larkin, Chris Sabo, Rob Dibble, and Tom Browning. And others who had decent major league careers - Kurt Stillwell, Jeff Treadway, Tracy Jones, Joe Oliver, among others.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:16 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:06 pm
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:53 am Hey, enough about Eric Davis, what about Kal Daniels, who hit like Lou Gehrig for a few seasons before fading?
god he could hit.

Between 1984 - 1988 the Reds farm churned out Eric Davis, Kal Daniels, Paul O'Neill, Barry Larkin, Chris Sabo, Rob Dibble, and Tom Browning. And others who had decent major league careers - Kurt Stillwell, Jeff Treadway, Tracy Jones, Joe Oliver, among others.

What happened to the Reds in every year except 1990? 89 and 91 especially. The 1990 season should have been the norm instead of a one-off.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:19 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:16 pm
tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:06 pm
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:53 am Hey, enough about Eric Davis, what about Kal Daniels, who hit like Lou Gehrig for a few seasons before fading?
god he could hit.

Between 1984 - 1988 the Reds farm churned out Eric Davis, Kal Daniels, Paul O'Neill, Barry Larkin, Chris Sabo, Rob Dibble, and Tom Browning. And others who had decent major league careers - Kurt Stillwell, Jeff Treadway, Tracy Jones, Joe Oliver, among others.
What happened to the Reds in every year except 1990? 89 and 91 especially. The 1990 season should have been the norm instead of a one-off.

They were second in 85 - 88 to some pretty damn good Dodgers team primarily - those were the years of one division winner and no wild cards. 1989 was a shitshow as the Pete Rose betting thing broke and ruined most of that seaosn.

1991 they started to transition to the next versions of that team. Davis was already on injury decline, etc.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:19 pm

Jose Rijo never stopped getting hurt.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:22 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:19 pm Jose Rijo never stopped getting hurt.

1990 - 1992 Rijo was so much fun.

GoodKarma · Post by **GoodKarma** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:59 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:22 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:19 pm Jose Rijo never stopped getting hurt.
1990 - 1992 Rijo was so much fun.

This plus Tom Browning was one of the most under-appreciated workhorses in the game. Add in 88-90 Danny Jackson before he got hurt made for one heck of a rotation.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:14 pm

Gunnar Henderson deposited an absolute no-doubt, 462 foot HR onto Eutaw Street (one hopped off the warehouse) this afternoon. That swing looked like Junior's back in the day.

The kid's been tearing the cover off the ball this past month.

O's win 11-3 to sweep the Royals.

41-24 on the year to remain 5.5 games behind Tampa Bay.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:54 pm

Turns out, that shot by Henderson may have been the longest HR ever hit to RF in OPCY. Five HRs traveled farther in the history of OPCY, but all were hit to LF & LF-CF.

If you've ever been to OPCY - Gunnar will have the furthest ball plaque out on Eutaw St.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:11 pm

An absolute monster HR from Gunner.

Also, this happened among other things from EDLC today…

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Later, he scored the go-ahead run in the 8th on a ground ball to a drawn in infield…

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:25 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:14 pm Gunnar Henderson deposited an absolute no-doubt, 462 foot HR onto Eutaw Street (one hopped off the warehouse) this afternoon. That swing looked like Junior's back in the day.

The kid's been tearing the cover off the ball this past month.

O's win 11-3 to sweep the Royals.

41-24 on the year to remain 5.5 games behind Tampa Bay.

rules

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:37 pm

bfj wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:25 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:14 pm Gunnar Henderson deposited an absolute no-doubt, 462 foot HR onto Eutaw Street (one hopped off the warehouse) this afternoon. That swing looked like Junior's back in the day.

The kid's been tearing the cover off the ball this past month.

O's win 11-3 to sweep the Royals.

41-24 on the year to remain 5.5 games behind Tampa Bay.
rules

Yeah I went searching for longest hit HRs at OPCY and found this.

I don't think there's been a ball hit further than 462 to RF at OPCY this season (that link is from February of this year).

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:45 pm

Over the past week, Oakland increased its season’s win total by over 40%. (5 game win streak).

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:25 am

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:45 pm Over the past week, Oakland increased its season’s win total by over 40%. (5 game win streak).

they are within 2 games of the royals. Relatedly, holy shit, wtf royals?

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:19 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:25 am
sancarlos wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:45 pm Over the past week, Oakland increased its season’s win total by over 40%. (5 game win streak).
they are within 2 games of the royals. Relatedly, holy shit, wtf royals?

Don't worry, someone's coming.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:20 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:11 pm An absolute monster HR from Gunner.

Also, this happened among other things from EDLC today…

I was at my cousin's eldest's graduation party Saturday. I was involved in three separate conversations with Reds fans while there about him, specifically the last row home run and triple mentioned upthread in all three.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:09 pm

In this night in Reds baseball , due to Sims and Diaz being unavailable, and the game in extras and the reds up 5-4 they handed the ball to a rookie making his big league debut who is up due to attrition and a 7+ ERA in Louisville with a fastball he can’t control and a slider and this was his zone chart

And somehow that translated to him getting the save.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:11 pm

Curt Casali, reds catcher, did some matrix-level shit to stop literally half a dozen pitches from getting to the backstop with the tying run at third.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:17 pm

34 BB in 22 innings at AAA - and then unleashed a live “holy shit” in the on-field post game interview. I love him.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:30 pm

How is that pitch a strike that appears to be at a batter’s head you might ask as you peruse the majesty of that pitch zone chart?

Well, the royals manager asked one of the unfortunate royals to bunt against this real life Ricky vaughn/nuke laloosh combo as a fastball bored in toward his head and the bunt attempt was fouled off/kept the batter from being hospitalized….

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:45 am

You would line up a white AAA reliever from every team and tell me one of them has huge control issues and is named Ricky Karcher and I'm pretty sure I'd pick the right guy.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:50 am

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:45 am You would line up a white AAA reliever from every team and tell me one of them has huge control issues and is named Ricky Karcher and I'm pretty sure I'd pick the right guy.

It's like he walked off of the Eastbound and Down set.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:51 am

Someone did a supercut of every one of his glorious pitches last night - enjoy

21 pitches - only 9 strikes and one of those a batter pitch clock violation. NO strikes on his fastball.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:58 am

Just get the glasses and play "Wild Thing", he's most of the way there already.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:59 am

That's amazing. If he wasn't pulling a slider down he couldn't keep a pitch under 5 feet high.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:10 am

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:59 am That's amazing. If he wasn't pulling a slider down he couldn't keep a pitch under 5 feet high.

I've literally never seen anything like it outside of the opening scenes of Bull Durham and Major League. After Casali makes his third unreal leaping stab of a fastball looking to bean a mascot, you can see him go into "fuck it I'm only calling sliders" mode...and it somehow worked.

I really did think that ball to Massey as he squared around was gonna kill him.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:12 am

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:58 am Just get the glasses and play "Wild Thing", he's most of the way there already.

It's uncanny.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:13 am

just within the last 2 weeks i've become glued to the Reds - although i keep adding "teams i like" to my MLB account, it's getting a little messy

but for real i want a Pirates/Reds division title race and it could happen

(but when is Joey coming back to singlehandedly/exponentially increase their awesomeness and average age)

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:14 am

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:13 am just within the last 2 weeks i've become glued to the Reds - although i keep adding "teams i like" to my MLB account, it's getting a little messy

but for real i want a Pirates/Reds division title race and it could happen

(but when is Joey coming back to singlehandedly/exponentially increase their awesomeness and average age)

Probably within two weeks.