2023 NBA Offseason Thread

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:26 am

A_B wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:19 am Wait...there are 6 sets of twins in the nba now? I mean, it makes sense but still surprising.

(think of it as one team having all of them and twins make up 1/30th of the league)

Yeah that's pretty crazy considering it's like 1-250 pregnancies. Felt bad for the twin last night who was just there for support.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:58 pm

It's so fucked up that he isn't the first to know before someone within the organization leaks the info to Woj.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:05 am

Don't worry, James. If you're hell-bent to go back to Houston, there's no shortage of fans ready to drive you to the fucking airport.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:09 am

Houston has already pulled out of the running. He's gonna be a Clipper.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:24 am

Yeah, I learned that after I posted this. Either that or the Knicks. Couple of franchises known for success.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:31 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:24 am Yeah, I learned that after I posted this. Either that or the Knicks. Couple of franchises known for success.

I would have to think it's the Clippers. It is very hard for me to imagine the coexistence of Thibs and Harden.

Post by **Shirley** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:32 am

James Harden has always been a Clipper.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:43 am

Wonder who the next star to advance to the second round with Embiid will be.

(Lillard would be perfect because I can't imagine he'd join in fading away for the end of a G6 and a full G7.)

Post by **brian** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:58 am

Trust the process.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 am

The NBA off-season and drama always seems to amuse me and delight me more than the games of the season itself.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:33 am

I wouldn’t go as far as Jhonnie, but the power held by the players makes the NBA Hot Stove (or maybe the in-window air conditioner since it’s in the summer) very entertaining.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:57 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:43 am Wonder who the next star to advance to the second round with Embiid will be.

(Lillard would be perfect because I can't imagine he'd join in fading away for the end of a G6 and a full G7.)

Portland has been in ten playoff series elimination games with Lillard on the roster. He missed one and the team is 2-7 in the other nine, in which he has shot 40.0% from the field and 28.9% from three (he has shot 41.4% overall and 38.2% from three in all other playoff games and 43.9% and 37.2% in regular season, respectively).

When they won two consecutive elimination games against the Nuggets in 2019, he was great in the first, then shot 3-of-17 in Game 7, but did have eight assists and ten boards while CJ McCollum went off for 37.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:58 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:57 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:43 am Wonder who the next star to advance to the second round with Embiid will be.

(Lillard would be perfect because I can't imagine he'd join in fading away for the end of a G6 and a full G7.)
Portland has been in ten playoff series elimination games with Lillard on the roster. He missed one and the team is 2-7 in the other nine, in which he has shot 40.0% from the field and 28.9% from three (he has shot 41.4% overall and 38.2% from three in all other playoff games and 43.9% and 37.2% in regular season, respectively).

When they won two consecutive elimination games against the Nuggets in 2019, he was great in the first, then shot 3-of-17 in Game 7, but did have eight assists and ten boards while CJ McCollum went off for 37.

I was going to say as sure as fuck remember one of those two, but remembered that was game 6. My wife still makes fun of me for my "I hate my parents for ever introducing me to sports!!!!" whining that night.

blundercrush · Post by **blundercrush** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:06 pm

Not a huge surprise, Green back to GSW for 100mil w/player option last year. given the CP trade, seemed pretty likely.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:19 pm

The first hour and 15 minutes of NBA free agency just feels like a list of contracts that will almost all be regretted by tomorrow morning. And that's not taking Kyrie getting three years and $126 million from Dallas.

I think the contract I've seen I like the most is Bruce Brown getting two years and $45 million from the Pacers.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:04 am

Root for those with a fighting spirit.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:27 am

They're all ESPN information mavens. But Woj and especially Windhorst I find compelling and knowledgeable, while Schefter just seems slimy. I can't exactly put my finger on why those two I see so differently than Scheft.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:31 am

Because Schefter is a gross propagandist?

GoodKarma · Post by **GoodKarma** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:57 pm

Jeremi Grant for 160mil is inexcusable

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:41 pm

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:54 pm

I am a big fan of Amin Elhassan and I understand if others do not feel this way. The Big Lead recapped some comments from him on the LeBatard Show almost a year ago about Woj while Jemele Hill was the guest and the three former ESPN staff members were talking about what happened with Rachel Nichols.

Are you [beeping] sh-tting me? This guy is going to call someone a bad teammate? For real? For real? Do we want to talk about the black careers that he put a foot on because he was threatened by? Do we want to talk about that? Do you wanna talk about the newsbreakers - with an ’S’ - of diverse background, who have rapports with players that Adrian doesn’t have. That he saw as threatening because his sources are all front office people… and assistant coaches trying to move up… and maybe a video coordinator that’s trying to get a better job somewhere else.

But he can’t talk to LeBron. And he can’t talk to Chris Paul or Damian Lillard or some of these other guys. He doesn’t have that rapport with them. So what he does is he steps on them. And beyond that particular angle, he steps on a lot of people over there. He steps on a lot of people over there. Right? When you see a byline that says 'as reported by Adrian Wojnarowski and fill-in-the-blank.' That’s the old, 'yeah, put my name on it and put it out there.

And if you want gross pandering from Woj, this one is still fresh.

Or just look at him tagging agents in tweets about guys staying on two-way deals for next season. He's Schefter, only the ball is round.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:56 pm

And I don’t recall him patting himself on the back on an ESPN segment about how he married a 9/11 widow.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:59 pm

I also couldn't find it, but I recall a profile of Woj becoming king of scoops while at Yahoo after his first lap at ESPN being motivated because he wanted to "burn ESPN to the ground".

Post by **brian** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:20 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:56 pm And I don’t recall him patting himself on the back on an ESPN segment about how he married a 9/11 widow.

Must have been a real chore to marry a rich widow who was probably the nine piece to some hedge fund trash.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:41 pm

Dillon Brooks to HOU, 4 years for $80 million. Apparently, they may be looking to make this a trade with the Grizz.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:54 pm

Doubt the Grizzlies want him!

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:26 pm

Very high risk, somewhat high reward. About what the Rockets should expect at this point in the rebuild.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:29 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:26 pm Very high risk, somewhat high reward. About what the Rockets should expect at this point in the rebuild.

They needed a vet. Just not sure they needed THAT vet. Dillon plays hard, that will never be in doubt. Not smart, but hard. He defends like his life depends on it. The young Rockets could probably learn from that. His trash talking will be 100% less annoying to the entire NBA on a not great team. A good fit but that is plenty of money.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:37 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:29 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:26 pm Very high risk, somewhat high reward. About what the Rockets should expect at this point in the rebuild.
They needed a vet. Just not sure they needed THAT vet. Dillon plays hard, that will never be in doubt. Not smart, but hard. He defends like his life depends on it. The young Rockets could probably learn from that. His trash talking will be 100% less annoying to the entire NBA on a not great team. A good fit but that is plenty of money.

I think VanVleet is the vet presence they were looking for.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:08 am

He was. But now you’ve added absolute chaos in brooks. And I say that affectionately. He could be ANYTHING for you all, good and bad.

Post by **Shirley** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:03 pm

I just assumed all the recent activity in this thread was about Ty Jerome signing with Cleveland. You guys let me down.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:30 am

Shirley wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:03 pm I just assumed all the recent activity in this thread was about Ty Jerome signing with Cleveland. You guys let me down.

Joe Harris is offended by your failure to mention his trade to Detroit.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:54 am

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:30 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:03 pm I just assumed all the recent activity in this thread was about Ty Jerome signing with Cleveland. You guys let me down.
Nets' 13th all-time leading scorer Joe Harris is offended by your failure to mention his trade to Detroit.

FIFY

Post by **Shirley** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:18 am

Giff wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:54 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:30 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:03 pm I just assumed all the recent activity in this thread was about Ty Jerome signing with Cleveland. You guys let me down.
Nets' 13th all-time leading scorer Joe Harris is offended by your failure to mention his trade to Detroit.
FIFY

Damn, you're right! I'll have to light another candle on my Joe Harris shrine.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:26 am

I thought someone was joking when they referenced that stat after his trade.

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:03 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:26 am I thought someone was joking when they referenced that stat after his trade.

Yeah, it's pretty hard to believe. It's not even like he's been there that long.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:40 pm

Is that ahead or behind Chris Morris?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:14 pm

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:16 am

#teambritney

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:47 am

Love how "backhanded" is somehow a legitimate term to be used in news reports. Just go all in and call it what it is