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Ryan wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:31 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:21 am I mean, with the right person running against a carpetbagger, it can be devastating. The PA race for senator with "Doctor" Oz is a great recent example.

But the Okies are their own breed of MAGA crazy. OKC and Tulsa aren't the same as Pittsburg and Philly in terms of urban and increasing blue suburbs.
What if its not in Massachusetts or Georgia?
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It is filled with Hawaii, Louisiana and Rhode Island, thank you.
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Ryan wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:31 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:21 am I mean, with the right person running against a carpetbagger, it can be devastating. The PA race for senator with "Doctor" Oz is a great recent example.

But the Okies are their own breed of MAGA crazy. OKC and Tulsa aren't the same as Pittsburg and Philly in terms of urban and increasing blue suburbs.
What if its not in Massachusetts or Georgia?
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sancarlos wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:04 pm So, by that logic, anybody can just pick a state and run to be that state’s senator!
I'm pretty sure that each state sets their own residency requirements for holding federal office.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:56 pm
sancarlos wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:04 pm So, by that logic, anybody can just pick a state and run to be that state’s senator!
I'm pretty sure that each state sets their own residency requirements for holding federal office.
But in Oklahoma, its OK L-A-H-O-M-A. Oklahoma, OK!
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That reminds me of this pic and I was able to answer the question Saturday. Nothing except eat at whatever is at the Love's in Boise City.

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Who knew Oklahoma bordered Colorado. Somehow the New Mexico border seems less surprising
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HaulCitgo wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:38 pm Somehow the New Mexico border seems less surprising
Yeah, what's the deal with that New Mexico border with its two neighbors to the east? Why isn't it just a straight line north to south?
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If I were to make a guess, it would be that the mapmakers/surveyors weren't exact back in the day and no one wanted to change it.
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But that looks like about 10 miles at this scale

Eta google maps says 2 miles
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L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:47 pm
HaulCitgo wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:38 pm Somehow the New Mexico border seems less surprising
Yeah, what's the deal with that New Mexico border with its two neighbors to the east? Why isn't it just a straight line north to south?
I have a book somewhere called “How The States Got Their Shapes” and some of it is fascinating. I don’t remember that specific one though.

(When it comes to anything west of the Mississippi usually the answer is “slavery” or “the rule of five degrees” in which Congress at the time didn’t want states larger than about five degrees of latitude. Though that wouldn’t explain the “notch” in NM.
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Colorado has 697 sides.

Vermont has 251 towns and cities. There are also 4 gores that are un-incorporated parts of land that basically are there because 18th-century survey equipment sucks and basically no one lives in these gores, so fuck it.

and for the NM "notch":

"New Mexico has a bit of the Oklahoma Panhandle because of a boundary dispute that was resolved by the U.S. Supreme Court in the late 19th century. The Court ruled in favor of New Mexico, stating that the boundary between the two states should follow the 103rd Meridian, which runs through the Oklahoma Panhandle. This decision was based on the 1866 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, which established the boundaries between the U.S. and Mexico following the Mexican-American War."
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The Colorado thing made me google it to see if it's true. It is.

Like how do you fuck up a rectangle?
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Sometimes to “snap to right angle” button is grayed out and your tech support ticket is stuck, alright?!?
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Ryan wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:30 pm Sometimes to “snap to right angle” button is grayed out and your tech support ticket is stuck, alright?!?
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BeckyHammon’s hoodie wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:18 pm
Ryan wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:31 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:21 am I mean, with the right person running against a carpetbagger, it can be devastating. The PA race for senator with "Doctor" Oz is a great recent example.

But the Okies are their own breed of MAGA crazy. OKC and Tulsa aren't the same as Pittsburg and Philly in terms of urban and increasing blue suburbs.
What if its not in Massachusetts or Georgia?
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A_B wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:43 am It is filled with Hawaii, Louisiana and Rhode Island, thank you.
This should not go unnoticed. Well done, AB.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:21 pm Like how do you fuck up a rectangle?
When you have to lay it flush on a sphere I reckon.
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P.D.X. wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:34 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:21 pm Like how do you fuck up a rectangle?
When you have to lay it flush on a sphere I reckon.
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If you go on Xitter and search Loomer and Greene, you can get a bit of entertainment from the latest nastiness between two very unlikeable women who don’t like each other.
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sancarlos wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:47 am If you go on Xitter and search Loomer and Greene, you can get a bit of entertainment from the latest nastiness between two very unlikeable women who don’t like each other.
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It’s hard to speak and to shit your pants at the same time.
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He looks like he's losing weight as well - which is rarely a good thing when you are that age.
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sancarlos wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:13 pm It’s hard to speak and to shit your pants at the same time.
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Weekend at Mitch’s
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It’s funny to picture Trump going statue mode instead of McConnell because you know all the little sycophant politicians would immediately adopt 15 second pauses while speaking.
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Pruitt IV wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:20 pm He looks like he's losing weight as well - which is rarely a good thing when you are that age.
Just saw a clip and yeah, he looks like he lost a lot of weight, and not in a healthy way. Scary to see, looks like he is having a stroke. Again. I'm sure Trump will come out and trash him for it.
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I laughed.

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sancarlos wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:47 am If you go on Xitter and search Loomer and Greene, you can get a bit of entertainment from the latest nastiness between two very unlikeable women who don’t like each other.
MTG is just the worst, but I can't believe those two grown men cackling with glee at "large Marge." It's like they're 12 fucking years old.
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All around, just a reminder that Idiocracy was Future-mentary.
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Johnnie wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:58 am I laughed.
Well done, as usual with the Lincoln Project. I'm a bit surprised, as I thought the purpose of the Lincoln Project was to take out Trump. It's founded and run by a bunch of former GOP pundits and insiders, so what's the goal? Do they just hate DeSantis as much as they hate Trump? Who are they supporting?
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"The center"
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I know folks think that "the center" is a squishy place, occupied mostly by politicians and wonks that benefit from the status quo, but...

The Lincoln Project guys are very much against the knuckle dragging/religious right takeover of the GOP. The tension btwn blue blood/old school republicans and the mouthbreathing wing is (obviously) at an all-time high and it is why even though the Dems can be fractious at times, they don't hold a candle to the dysfunction in the GOP.

It wasn't that long ago, on this board, that we were lamenting the fact that the GOP is so good at being consistent with their messaging. That's fine and dandy when you're not being low key racist and misogynistic and taking away women's medical rights.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:24 pmThe Lincoln Project guys are very much against the knuckle dragging/religious right takeover of the GOP.
Weren't all these guys instrumental in bringing and keeping the knuckle dragging religious right into the GOP?

They are ostensibly opposed to Trump and the authoritarian turn the GOP has made since Trump.

Or, they see an opportunity to put a bunch of money in their own pockets by opposing Trump and the authoritarian turn the GOP has made since Trump.
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I don't really know if I'd put this current iteration of the GOP squarely on these guys. They worked for the McCain's of the world.

With that said, did these guys roll the dice with Sara Palin, for example? Did they play pretty fast and loose with dog whistles during certain campaigns. Were they pretty OK taking money from far right christian conservatives?

They absolutely are part of the system that brought us to this point, absolutely.
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Would they be doing this if the money dried up?
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mister d wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:40 pm Would they be doing this if the money dried up?
Unknowable. (But no.)
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They helped create a monster to help them terrorize the villagers, but then the monster turned on the makers, and now they would like to tame the monster.

Could be a movie.
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