The Weather

[degenerasian]

The fires this year area crazy. Maui, now Yellowknife Northwest Territories is going to burn to the ground, 20,000 people evacuating. Kelowna, BC is evacuating too.

[The Sybian]

Is this thing really going to hit the California coast? May have a new record for most expensive storm if so.

Projections have it basically hitting the entire coast from the border of Mexico up through LA County as far north as Santa Monica and Malibu.

Was just talking to a friend who lives in West Hollywood where they should be getting about 2.5" of rain (probably 12 miles from the coast).

Hey, maybe Malibu and Maui can get destroyed in the same week!

[L-Jam3]

Look at the bright side: the petroleum and natural gas companies are profiting more than ever. With even lower corporate taxes than before.

[Giff]

Look at the bright side: the petroleum and natural gas companies are profiting more than ever. With even lower corporate taxes than before.

Yeah I read an awesome article a couple weeks ago about why gas prices were skyrocketing. The answer was it was too hot for the refineries to work at full strength. Talk about incentive for them.

[Rex]

Is this thing really going to hit the California coast? May have a new record for most expensive storm if so.

Projections have it basically hitting the entire coast from the border of Mexico up through LA County as far north as Santa Monica and Malibu.

Was just talking to a friend who lives in West Hollywood where they should be getting about 2.5" of rain (probably 12 miles from the coast).

That made me think of this classic.

[rass]

Art Alexakis gonna have to rethink his plan for the apocalypse.

[brian]

A tropical storm watch has been issued for California.

For the first time in recorded history.

[Keg]

We’re pretty much being ordered not to show up to work. Should be biblical…

[brian]

We’re pretty much being ordered not to show up to work. Should be biblical…

Welcome back bud. Hang tough.

[rass]

Good luck keg

[Steve of phpBB]

We’re pretty much being ordered not to show up to work. Should be biblical…

Good luck, Keg. And it’s good to hear from you.

[L-Jam3]

I'm no geologist or anything, but doesn't torrential rains on historically dry soil lead to erosion, and more alarming, mudslides? Be safe there, Keg.

[DSafetyGuy]

I'm no geologist or anything, but doesn't torrential rains on historically dry soil lead to erosion, and more alarming, mudslides? Be safe there, Keg.

As mentioned previously, Malibu.

During the El Nino storm in winter 1997-1998, I was working for a company based in Malibu, (the owner's small guest house on top of a mountain). Sections of the Pacific Coast Highway were closed for months due to mudslides. I had a stripe of mud spray from my tires several inches wide running down the side of my car from driving through the open portions to/from work.

[brian]

I'm no geologist or anything, but doesn't torrential rains on historically dry soil lead to erosion, and more alarming, mudslides? Be safe there, Keg.

And inland, intense flash flooding.

Desert cities spend a lot of money to handle intense rains but even the best systems aren’t meant to completely handle a 100-year event.

Depending on the storm track, persistence and the intensity of the rain there’s about 30 million people in Southern California, Phoenix and Las Vegas at risk to catastrophic flooding.

[govmentchedda]

I'm no geologist or anything, but doesn't torrential rains on historically dry soil lead to erosion, and more alarming, mudslides? Be safe there, Keg.

And inland, intense flash flooding.

Desert cities spend a lot of money to handle intense rains but even the best systems aren’t meant to completely handle a 100-year event.

Depending on the storm track, persistence and the intensity of the rain there’s about 30 million people in Southern California, Phoenix and Las Vegas at risk to catastrophic flooding.

Like snow in the south, the fact that the area has no experience with the event isn't going to help things either.

[brian]

On the bright side, the temp today is only 82, which is about 20 degrees lower than the average high.

[sancarlos]

This reminds me of when I moved to California, many, many moons ago. I was driving my old Alfa Romeo Spider across the Mojave desert when it started raining really, really hard on the sun-baked ground. The road was elevated, but the standing water was getting very close to road level. I was in the middle of nowhere, so it crossed my mind that getting washed away would not be an optimal situation. Luckily, I reached the sprawling metropolis of Mojave, California for the night before that happened.

[Steve of phpBB]

Good lord.

[brian]

I really
don’t care
Do U?

[sancarlos]

So, a 5.1 earthquake just hit Ventura County (just northwest of the L.A. basin), right during the middle of the big storm.

I’m watching out for news of locusts, now.

[DaveInSeattle]

Seattle is getting its first dose of smoke for the summer. AQI yesterday was around 150...expected to be the same (or worse) today. The sky is disgusting, and it smells awful. No bike commute for me today...no way I want to be breathing that stuff in.

[DaveInSeattle]

Seattle is getting its first dose of smoke for the summer. AQI yesterday was around 150...expected to be the same (or worse) today. The sky is disgusting, and it smells awful. No bike commute for me today...no way I want to be breathing that stuff in.

Gross...

[DSafetyGuy]

It's like you live in Los Angeles.

[duff]

Is that from the fires in eastern Washington? Know someone that lost everything over the weekend.

[Steve of phpBB]

Is that from the fires in eastern Washington? Know someone that lost everything over the weekend.

Oh crap. Where was that?

[duff]

Is that from the fires in eastern Washington? Know someone that lost everything over the weekend.

Oh crap. Where was that?

Outside of Spokane.

[govmentchedda]

Will a Cat 4 be the first hurricane we decide to ignore mandatory evacuation orders for? Stay tuned to find out!





My logic is this, the storm appears to be fast moving and not expected to hang around the area for long. We have large-ish oaks in the back but they've been trimmed back within the last year and are still relatively young (and strong, hopefully). Our evacuation spot would be the in laws' house which has much more mature oaks surrounding it, one of which collapsed on the house next door the last time we evacuated. They also got way worse wind than we did, but that's obviously random and not predictive for wherever this one decides to make landfall and it's path through the state. My house is in mandatory evacuation zone A because of how low lying it is. If this thing moves through fast I don't see flooding or storm surge being a huge issue, with the caveat that this projected path is exactly what they've always warned Tampans about (a storm from the south that stays off shore before making landfall north of us). In that scenario the north east quadrant of the storm would push a fuck ton of water into Tampa Bay (between Hillsborough and Pinellas counties) and Hillsborough Bay (the smaller, connected bay between the peninsula of Tampa and the rest of Hillsborough county).

[The Sybian]

You know way better than we do... Good luck, Chedds.

[sancarlos]

Chedda, I hope it misses you and destroys Mara Lago.

[The Sybian]

Chedda, I hope it misses you and destroys Mara Lago.

They've already flooded the surveillance equipment room.

[Giff]

I wouldn't take the chance if it's a mandatory evacuation.

[EnochRoot]

Will a Cat 4 be the first hurricane we decide to ignore mandatory evacuation orders for? Stay tuned to find out!





My logic is this, the storm appears to be fast moving and not expected to hang around the area for long. We have large-ish oaks in the back but they've been trimmed back within the last year and are still relatively young (and strong, hopefully). Our evacuation spot would be the in laws' house which has much more mature oaks surrounding it, one of which collapsed on the house next door the last time we evacuated. They also got way worse wind than we did, but that's obviously random and not predictive for wherever this one decides to make landfall and it's path through the state. My house is in mandatory evacuation zone A because of how low lying it is. If this thing moves through fast I don't see flooding or storm surge being a huge issue, with the caveat that this projected path is exactly what they've always warned Tampans about (a storm from the south that stays off shore before making landfall north of us). In that scenario the north east quadrant of the storm would push a fuck ton of water into Tampa Bay (between Hillsborough and Pinellas counties) and Hillsborough Bay (the smaller, connected bay between the peninsula of Tampa and the rest of Hillsborough county).

Isn't the problem with oak trees in FL the high water table? Like, you have to go to freakin Gainesville to find basements in residential structures, right?

[A_B]

We r heading that way on Friday, and I am hopeful that it will be for relaxing and not helping with cleanup.

[govmentchedda]

Will a Cat 4 be the first hurricane we decide to ignore mandatory evacuation orders for? Stay tuned to find out!





My logic is this, the storm appears to be fast moving and not expected to hang around the area for long. We have large-ish oaks in the back but they've been trimmed back within the last year and are still relatively young (and strong, hopefully). Our evacuation spot would be the in laws' house which has much more mature oaks surrounding it, one of which collapsed on the house next door the last time we evacuated. They also got way worse wind than we did, but that's obviously random and not predictive for wherever this one decides to make landfall and it's path through the state. My house is in mandatory evacuation zone A because of how low lying it is. If this thing moves through fast I don't see flooding or storm surge being a huge issue, with the caveat that this projected path is exactly what they've always warned Tampans about (a storm from the south that stays off shore before making landfall north of us). In that scenario the north east quadrant of the storm would push a fuck ton of water into Tampa Bay (between Hillsborough and Pinellas counties) and Hillsborough Bay (the smaller, connected bay between the peninsula of Tampa and the rest of Hillsborough county).

Isn't the problem with oak trees in FL the high water table? Like, you have to go to freakin Gainesville to find basements in residential structures, right?

I'd be surprised if Gainesville is even north enough to have basements. I certainly never ran across any during my time as a student there.

[EnochRoot]

Will a Cat 4 be the first hurricane we decide to ignore mandatory evacuation orders for? Stay tuned to find out!





My logic is this, the storm appears to be fast moving and not expected to hang around the area for long. We have large-ish oaks in the back but they've been trimmed back within the last year and are still relatively young (and strong, hopefully). Our evacuation spot would be the in laws' house which has much more mature oaks surrounding it, one of which collapsed on the house next door the last time we evacuated. They also got way worse wind than we did, but that's obviously random and not predictive for wherever this one decides to make landfall and it's path through the state. My house is in mandatory evacuation zone A because of how low lying it is. If this thing moves through fast I don't see flooding or storm surge being a huge issue, with the caveat that this projected path is exactly what they've always warned Tampans about (a storm from the south that stays off shore before making landfall north of us). In that scenario the north east quadrant of the storm would push a fuck ton of water into Tampa Bay (between Hillsborough and Pinellas counties) and Hillsborough Bay (the smaller, connected bay between the peninsula of Tampa and the rest of Hillsborough county).

Isn't the problem with oak trees in FL the high water table? Like, you have to go to freakin Gainesville to find basements in residential structures, right?

I'd be surprised if Gainesville is even north enough to have basements. I certainly never ran across any during my time as a student there.

I had a bunch of friends at UF when I was in school down in Tampa, so I was up there once or twice a semester. Or so it seemed. Not sure I ever saw a basement either. It was hillier than anywhere south of there though.

[Giff]

I don't recall ever seeing a basement in Texas.

[Gunpowder]

Will a Cat 4 be the first hurricane we decide to ignore mandatory evacuation orders for? Stay tuned to find out!





My logic is this, the storm appears to be fast moving and not expected to hang around the area for long. We have large-ish oaks in the back but they've been trimmed back within the last year and are still relatively young (and strong, hopefully). Our evacuation spot would be the in laws' house which has much more mature oaks surrounding it, one of which collapsed on the house next door the last time we evacuated. They also got way worse wind than we did, but that's obviously random and not predictive for wherever this one decides to make landfall and it's path through the state. My house is in mandatory evacuation zone A because of how low lying it is. If this thing moves through fast I don't see flooding or storm surge being a huge issue, with the caveat that this projected path is exactly what they've always warned Tampans about (a storm from the south that stays off shore before making landfall north of us). In that scenario the north east quadrant of the storm would push a fuck ton of water into Tampa Bay (between Hillsborough and Pinellas counties) and Hillsborough Bay (the smaller, connected bay between the peninsula of Tampa and the rest of Hillsborough county).

I don't know how much the storm surge would be affected by the speed of the storm, would that really matter?

[govmentchedda]

Will a Cat 4 be the first hurricane we decide to ignore mandatory evacuation orders for? Stay tuned to find out!





My logic is this, the storm appears to be fast moving and not expected to hang around the area for long. We have large-ish oaks in the back but they've been trimmed back within the last year and are still relatively young (and strong, hopefully). Our evacuation spot would be the in laws' house which has much more mature oaks surrounding it, one of which collapsed on the house next door the last time we evacuated. They also got way worse wind than we did, but that's obviously random and not predictive for wherever this one decides to make landfall and it's path through the state. My house is in mandatory evacuation zone A because of how low lying it is. If this thing moves through fast I don't see flooding or storm surge being a huge issue, with the caveat that this projected path is exactly what they've always warned Tampans about (a storm from the south that stays off shore before making landfall north of us). In that scenario the north east quadrant of the storm would push a fuck ton of water into Tampa Bay (between Hillsborough and Pinellas counties) and Hillsborough Bay (the smaller, connected bay between the peninsula of Tampa and the rest of Hillsborough county).

I don't know how much the storm surge would be affected by the speed of the storm, would that really matter?

I suppose I meant flooding more than storm surge, Doug.

[mister d]

Good luck. Hopefully the mental bargaining I’ve done to have it miss where we are didn’t send it directly at you.

[Nonlinear FC]

Feeling very lucky. We just left Tybee Island on Saturday, looking at these forecasts and it's gonna be a very rough week down there.