Presidential Election 2024
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Those aren't rednecks. They don't exist in Atlanta. More like irate out of towners bringing their northern driving instincts to Atlanta.
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First time Citgo accused of being a redneck.
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I just finished reading one of those NY Times features wherein the locals (Iowa voters, in this case), talk about the coming Iowa caucuses, Trump, and the other half-wits running. I realize that a lot of folks really don't consume much news, or worse, get theirs from FOX/OAN/etc. I know I shouldn't be shocked nor surprised, but I'm still left feeling like it was from The Onion.
Now my head hurts.
Now my head hurts.
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Christie is dropping out!
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I think maybe it was HL Mencken who said “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the average American.” And George Carlin who said something like, “think how stupid the average person is. Then, consider that half the people are worse than that.”TankFarm2023 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:22 pm I just finished reading one of those NY Times features wherein the locals (Iowa voters, in this case), talk about the coming Iowa caucuses, Trump, and the other half-wits running. I realize that a lot of folks really don't consume much news, or worse, get theirs from FOX/OAN/etc. I know I shouldn't be shocked nor surprised, but I'm still left feeling like it was from The Onion.
Now my head hurts.
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Out of all the announced candidates, he's the closest to who I'd vote for if I were the sole decision maker and didn't have to weigh viability. Still, this is really funny ...
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When I was back east for the holidays the Jeopardy/Wheel hour of TV was Dean and Haley ads back to back to back.
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Most of us were just still protesting his Maestro look
he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
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So good
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Trump wins Iowa.
It was apparently called so quickly that people were still in line to vote getting push notes that it was called.
Whatever. Fuck 'em.
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And this just in...
It was apparently called so quickly that people were still in line to vote getting push notes that it was called.
Whatever. Fuck 'em.
Edit:
And this just in...
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Wait. So you mean to tell me endeavoring to be the most condescending, irritating fuck is not a winning strategy?
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Not when the other guy is better at it than you are.
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I thought he was talking about the guy with the lifts in his cowboy boots.
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Best shot a third party has had in... Ever. Some billionaire could definitely become president with just a tiny bit of luck.
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35% of the electorate are Trump cult true believers. They aren’t ever leaving him. He would easily win an election with a solid third party candidate.
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I have zero hope for America. None. Not even Swifties or the TikTok generation can save us.
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Better be real sure that 35% isn't 31%
If he's at 51% of the Republicans in Iowa, I don't see how he gets get to 35% of the electorate if there's a moderate third option
If he's at 51% of the Republicans in Iowa, I don't see how he gets get to 35% of the electorate if there's a moderate third option
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He won 51% of the 14% of the republicans that turned out for the caucus.
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Trump garnering a shart-worthy 51% of the GOP in Iowa is the definition of meh.
I think it tells you the antipathy towards Trump also comes from the right.
I think it tells you the antipathy towards Trump also comes from the right.
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Mitt Romney would probably get 15-20% of Republicans and Democrats. Might be enough right there. Biden would probably squeak by there but the right person. Can't think of any moderate Republicans anymore though. It's become so polarized. Third party Democrat would guarantee it for trump so can't see anyone credible trying short of deathly illness of Biden.
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In a triple option of Trump vs Biden vs Romney, I think you'd see historically low turnout and enough of a Biden/Romney split vote that Trump would coast back in. Like you think Pennsylvania isn't going Trump if there are three options and two are the same?
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Not sure. I dont think Biden would lose many PA votes to Romney maybe 5-15% and I think Romney would take probably 15-20% off trump. Think Biden would win PA with about 38-40% in that scenario
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Its tough to see a 3rd party candidate helping Biden, as Trump has a cult following. I doubt more than 5% of people who say they are voting Biden are die-hard Biden fans and would consider voting for a Republican in Biden dropped out. Biden voters are largely Dems who will vote Blue or anti-Trump voters willing to vote in anyone who can beat Trump. It does seem like there are some Trump over Biden people who would consider JFK Jr, but who knows. The thought of a second Trump presidency is terrifying, but the Dems suck so bad. We need viable alternatives, just not this year.
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There is a larger percentage of Republicans that would vote third party even if it meant trump losing and a smaller percentage of Democrats that would vote third party if it meant trump winning.
That to say it seems possible that a third party could coalesce enough voting blocs in the right states and catch a couple breaks and win. Enough to ensure that someone (or more) will make a legitimate run as soon as it is clear trump will win. Maybe question is what does it look like with 2-3 guys with 5-10%
End of two party politics?
That to say it seems possible that a third party could coalesce enough voting blocs in the right states and catch a couple breaks and win. Enough to ensure that someone (or more) will make a legitimate run as soon as it is clear trump will win. Maybe question is what does it look like with 2-3 guys with 5-10%
End of two party politics?
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I think that one thing the Democrat and Republican parties will always agree on is that the two party system - as ridiculous as it is - strongly benefits them both.
Even if it meant keeping Trump and his cronies from tearing the country down for the next four years, I'd wager that the people running the Democratic party would be fine with that if it meant that they could return to power in 2029.
Even if it meant keeping Trump and his cronies from tearing the country down for the next four years, I'd wager that the people running the Democratic party would be fine with that if it meant that they could return to power in 2029.
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Elon musk comes to mind if not for wasting all his money. Sports star? Military hero. YouTube/tiktoker? Bill fucking belichick wins presidency... Loses MA
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Musk can’t run.
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Ahh, I see what you are saying. Interesting point, I was looking at it differently. I wrote and deleted a long post, but I get it now. The equation is the same... Trump's base is loyal to the core, Biden's base is there because they are anti-Trump to the core. Not to say that some people don't like Biden, but he just doesn't have the cult worshippers.
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Electoral college is highest number not majority? Who can win California and new York and Illinois? No moderates. Flip side who can win Georgia and Florida, Tennessee, Ohio and north Carolina? Seems like there ought to be a common theme there. The rest would fall in place. Mid Atlantic to west of Appalachia hero? Tim Tebow.
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Riots. Me among them
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Guess Vivek found out he was actually running for the nomination of the Face-Eating Leopards Party.
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I have a feeling Vivek wasn’t running for a President, but setting himself up as a RW pundit or creating the next Daily Wire type of company. Or he has a massively oversized ego and narcissist streak and wanted the attention.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:06 am Guess Vivek found out he was actually running for the nomination of the Face-Eating Leopards Party.
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Why not both?The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:22 amI have a feeling Vivek wasn’t running for a President, but setting himself up as a RW pundit or creating the next Daily Wire type of company. Or he has a massively oversized ego and narcissist streak and wanted the attention.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:06 am Guess Vivek found out he was actually running for the nomination of the Face-Eating Leopards Party.
well this is gonna be someone's new signature - bronto
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Or a Cabinet position.The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:22 amI have a feeling Vivek wasn’t running for a President, but setting himself up as a RW pundit or creating the next Daily Wire type of company. Or he has a massively oversized ego and narcissist streak and wanted the attention.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:06 am Guess Vivek found out he was actually running for the nomination of the Face-Eating Leopards Party.
If Trump would even appoint a cabinet. Remember towards to the end of his Administration, he was saying that he liked having "Acting" secretaries, because they didn't have to go through Senate confirmation? I could totally see him continuing to do that.