Random Politics

[DSafetyGuy]

So... Texas.

[Giff]

It’s sad that I don’t even know what specifically it is you’re referring to. First thought is the Ted Cruz tweet.

[sancarlos]

Google Greg Abbott national guard razor wire.

ETA:

[brian]

The law and order party, folks!

[The Sybian]

So... Texas.

The most evergreen post ever.

[sancarlos]

[Johnnie]

JADE HELM WAS REAL.

[DaveInSeattle]

So Republicans are going to start a civil war because a majority-conservative Supreme Court told Texas to stop putting up razor wire and drowning kids in the Rio Grande?

[DSafetyGuy]

Biden should do a short speech to inform Americans what happens if a state should opt to secede, including loss of federal tax funds, what happens to FDIC-insured bank accounts and mortgages, and so on.

[L-Jam3]

Biden isn’t mean spirited enough to show that a real FAFO would be to start showing photos of an incinerated Atlanta.

[DaveInSeattle]

Biden should do a short speech to inform Americans what happens if a state should opt to secede, including loss of federal tax funds, what happens to FDIC-insured bank accounts and mortgages, and so on.

He should follow Eisenhower's example of the "Little Rock Nine":

When Governor Faubus ordered the Arkansas National Guard to surround Central High School to keep the nine students from entering the school, President Eisenhower ordered the 101st Airborne Division into Little Rock to insure the safety of the "Little Rock Nine" and that the rulings of the Supreme Court were upheld.

[Giff]

I don't think this is the hill they want to die on, but if it is, so be it. This isn't 1861 when most everyone who could vote in the South was in agreement slavery should stay legal.

[A_B]

I wanna see it just to see how fast Florida folds when the blockade sets in.

[L-Jam3]

I was thinking of the Ike route as well. Really twist the knife pointing out Eisenhower was a (reluctant) Republican, and show America how far they’ve fallen.

[Giff]

[Johnnie]

It's going to sound corny, but despite the fact that the National Guard's oath says it will obey the orders of the President and Governor of their state, all the President has to do is federally nationalize the whole damn bureau and the Civil War talk kinda goes away.

https://law.onecle.com/uscode/32/304.html

This does not absolve these governors from intimating that Civil War II: Electric Boogaloo should kick off because of a border crisis (and obviously being fueled my the multi-million dollar media corporations hoping it happens... For ratings!)

The threat of court martial of military members should be seen as great enough that anyone who tries to "defend their homes" will get prison time way quicker than your typical civilian or Orange Former Guy because the UCMJ is completely divorced and is its own separate justice system with much harsher penalties.

At least, this is my hope.

[mister d]

I'd like to get to the point where

The threat of court martial of military members should be seen as great enough that anyone who tries to "defend their homes" will get prison time way quicker than your typical civilian or Orange Former Guy because the UCMJ is completely divorced and is its own separate justice system with much harsher penalties.

This one (or cops) is kinda the tipping point of the whole "rules don't enforce themselves" problem.



(I do not want to hear anything about the rules working because some people who stormed fucking congress are getting up to 5 years in prison when the outgoing president who instigated the entire mess is legally running again and leading most (all?) polls head to head.)

[Johnnie]

I can only really rely on the military culture I experienced for over 21 years to guide me on this.

When the Right Wing openly attacked the military as an institution what they're trying to do is sew doubt amongst their base that it's "gone woke" or whatever. From the inside looking out, it was a joke and isn't taken seriously.

So they know that the military won't just crumble and resign to bullies. They have to actively dismantle it the way they did with abortion. It would be easier to reelect Orange Julius Caesar then start CW:II.

[P.D.X.]

Biden should do a short speech to inform Americans what happens if a state should opt to secede, including loss of federal tax funds, what happens to FDIC-insured bank accounts and mortgages, and so on.

Really gonna f with their football conferences I reckon.

[mister d]

From the inside looking out, it was a joke and isn't taken seriously.

So they know that the military won't just crumble and resign to bullies.

This does make me feel a little better, although maybe still curious if Trump were to install sycophantic military leaders, can the rank and file just go against them?

[sancarlos]

So can we assume that the National Guard in Texas will listen to Biden and not to Abbott?

[Johnnie]

From the inside looking out, it was a joke and isn't taken seriously.

So they know that the military won't just crumble and resign to bullies.

This does make me feel a little better, although maybe still curious if Trump were to install sycophantic military leaders, can the rank and file just go against them?

I mean, that's my worry.

Michael Flynn could theoretically either get called back in to serve, given his 4th star, be nominated to something or just be nominated as SecDef while his brother, who is an active duty Army 4 star general already, could be nominated as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs or something.

Then you've kinda taken over the military from the top down instead of from public opinion and the bottom up.

[Johnnie]

So can we assume that the National Guard in Texas will listen to Biden and not to Abbott?

I will, personally, until I see otherwise. Once federalized there's no out for military members that disobey orders.

The layers of rank insulate it for me. What can a Governor offer to a general to go rogue, shitcan an entire career, turn Robert E. Lee/Benedict Arnold, and explicitly take up arms against...the rest of the military in America? And that includes active duty and reservists.

I mean, shit. Colonel Kurtz was at least in Cambodia when he was rogue.

[Shirley]

I think there are a large number of Republicans who fantasize regularly about a civil war where they can freely execute liberals. They don't really care what starts it. They just keep looking for the right spark.

[sancarlos]

I think there are a large number of Republicans who fantasize regularly about a civil war where they can freely execute liberals. They don't really care what starts it. They just keep looking for the right spark.

No doubt.
See Rittenhouse, Kyle.

[Johnnie]

I think there are a large number of Republicans who fantasize regularly about a civil war where they can freely execute liberals. They don't really care what starts it. They just keep looking for the right spark.

And that's why I'm a liberal with guns.

[P.D.X.]

[Jerloma]

I don't really know where to put this so here, sorry

[Johnnie]

Where's a dude with a gun and a bloodthirst to shoot someone with a hoodie on when you need him?

[DaveInSeattle]

I don't really know where to put this so here, sorry

Saw this on Threads yesterday:

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Good god..that's awful...

[Jerloma]

Isn't the thing with "Karens" that they're not woke at all?

[Pruitt IV]

Yarmulkes will never be cool.

[DaveInSeattle]

Yarmulkes will never be cool.

Neither will Ben Shapiro...

[P.D.X.]

So the whole 'Super Bowl is rigged so Swift can endorse Biden' thing.... she would be performing regardless of KC being in it. What am I missing here?

[L-Jam3]

A traumatic brain injury, from the sound of that theory.

[Jerloma]

So the whole 'Super Bowl is rigged so Swift can endorse Biden' thing.... she would be performing regardless of KC being in it. What am I missing here?

What do you mean? She's not performing at the Super Bowl is she?

[P.D.X.]

Oh shit she's not? My bad. I thought they think she was going to endorse Biden from the stage but I guess she could do the same from a suite •shrug•

[DaveInSeattle]

Oh shit she's not? My bad. I thought they think she was going to endorse Biden from the stage but I guess she could do the same from a suite •shrug•

She's going to do the Ludacris lines on "Yeah"...

[A_B]

Isn't she supposed to be in Tokyo that weekend?

[Jerloma]

Oh shit she's not? My bad. I thought they think she was going to endorse Biden from the stage but I guess she could do the same from a suite •shrug•

She's going to do the Ludacris lines on "Yeah"...

Take that, bring Biden back,
Sleepy Joe got the beat that make ya booty go...smack