Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

[Pruitt3]

Were the spouses of the other 399 LEOs on site also victims?

Don't ask - it doesn't fit the revised narrative.

[tennbengal]

[Johnnie]

[Pruitt3]

But there was this one cop...

[brian]

Bookstore by the GFs house had a great window display with social justice books that said that said:

Always
Carry
A
Book

and I wanted to take a pic but couldn’t because we’re with the parents and her dad is a retired Chicago cop (though he’s a great guy it should be said)

[DSafetyGuy]

Make a list of the problems illustrated by this article and tell me how exactly where you even begin to reform.

[rass]

JFC

Deputies also revealed that Savannah Graziano, the 15-year-old girl at the center of Monday's Amber Alert was also fatally shot during Tuesday's shootout, where she was allegedly wearing tactical gear. They reported that she charged at the deputies in the middle of the firefight and that she was possibly firing at them with her father.

Turns out she wasn't armed, but she was wearing "tactical gear".

After a pursuit and shooting, the California Highway Patrol canceled the Amber Alert for 15-year-old Savannah Graziano, the suspect's daughter.

[rass]

[sancarlos]

New Mexico police shot and killed a man after they went to the wrong house while responding to a domestic violence call

[Pruitt IV]

When Incompetence Becomes Obscene

Ridiculous coverup in Mississippi.

[Shirley]

When Incompetence Becomes Obscene

Ridiculous coverup in Mississippi.

It's unbelievable. Actually, I wish it were unbelievable, but still it's amazing.

Have to wonder what the cops were trying to cover up. Was the cop who hit him drunk?. Did they maybe not give him medical help and it took him a while to die?

[Steve of phpBB]

Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

[The Sybian]

Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

If this is how highly trained professionals act, what would an untrained civilian do? Can't imagine the shot that guy is going to take when he comes back from suspension.

[DSafetyGuy]

Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

If this is how highly trained professionals act, what would an untrained civilian do? Can't imagine the shot that guy is going to take when he comes back from suspension.

That reaction is a result of their training. They are instructed to treat everyone and everything as a threat, then respond with essentially "shoot first and ask questions later".

After all, what punishment do they really get for fucking up?

[The Sybian]

Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

If this is how highly trained professionals act, what would an untrained civilian do? Can't imagine the shot that guy is going to take when he comes back from suspension.

That reaction is a result of their training. They are instructed to treat everyone and everything as a threat, then respond with essentially "shoot first and ask questions later".

After all, what punishment do they really get for fucking up?

Not exactly. They are trained to use deadly force as a last resort, but if you have to use a gun, always shoot to kill. Or more accurately, shoot to stop, but that often means dead.

[HaulCitgo]

Think I read that two separate cops EMPTIED THEIR CLIPS. Totally aside from a bad judgment. Honestly happens. Doesnt make it right but with tons of police encounters some are gonna get it wrong. Just a matter of minimizing. But why did these guys keep shooting? Miserable fucks.

"At the same time, I felt an impact on my right side, like upper torso area," he said in an interview on Nov. 15, 2023, according to the report.

You didnt get shot dude.

[Shirley]

I don't really blame the second cop. The first guy screams both "shots fired!" and "I'm hit!" And then he's flopping all over the ground, unloading his clip and hiding behind a car. Who wouldn't assume there was some real danger?

Apparently that dude quit the force after. Thankfully both cops had no idea what they were shooting at and didn't hit the poor guy in the car.

[mister d]

Disclaimer that I'm not a cop but ... what was the 2nd cop shooting at? Like is protocol really to just start blasting away in a residential neighborhood in the same direction your friend is?

[Steve of phpBB]

Okaloosa County is really backwards. My mother-in-law lives there. They’re not hiring the best candidates.

[Shirley]

Disclaimer that I'm not a cop but ... what was the 2nd cop shooting at? Like is protocol really to just start blasting away in a residential neighborhood in the same direction your friend is?

She saw the first cop shooting at the car. And I think he also said it was the car. Of course, if you see her camera, she's shooting wildly also in the direction of the first cop. Not exactly the nation's best there.

[DSafetyGuy]

Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

If this is how highly trained professionals act, what would an untrained civilian do? Can't imagine the shot that guy is going to take when he comes back from suspension.

That reaction is a result of their training. They are instructed to treat everyone and everything as a threat, then respond with essentially "shoot first and ask questions later".

After all, what punishment do they really get for fucking up?

Not exactly. They are trained to use deadly force as a last resort, but if you have to use a gun, always shoot to kill. Or more accurately, shoot to stop, but that often means dead.

Stop Training Police Like They’re Joining the Military

First sentence:

When I entered the Washington, D.C., police academy in 2016 as a recruit officer in the district’s volunteer police reserve corps, I quickly discovered that I was joining a paramilitary organization.

Later on:

Police departments obtaining used Army filing cabinets at cost isn’t cause for concern, but there’s no earthly reason for small-town cops to wear military fatigues, ride around in mine-resistant Humvees, or carry bayonets. Studies suggest that police departments that receive such equipment see no measurable improvement in officer safety or crime rates, but greater quantities do seem to correlate with higher rates of officer-involved shootings and reduced public trust.

Minneapolis Banned Warrior-Style Police Training. Its Police Union Kept Offering It Anyway

While an investigation is underway over the use of the chokehold in Floyd’s death, it’s worth taking a look at the “warrior-style” police training that for years had been popular with the city’s top police union. For the unfamiliar, the training, as we reported in 2017, generally espouses a “killology” vision of law enforcement that’s frequently likened to “fear porn.” Experts say the training, which has been linked to high profile police-related killings around the country, including Philando Castille’s 2016 shooting death, also in Minnesota, often runs the risk of the use of unnecessary, and sometimes, fatal force:

This approach to policing is outdated and ineffective, says Stoughton, and, “some of it is dangerously wrong.” Samuel Walker, a criminal-justice professor and expert on police accountability, says the “Bulletproof Warrior” approach is “okay for Green Berets but unacceptable for domestic policing. The best police chiefs in the country don’t want anything to do with this.”

[DaveInSeattle]

A Rookie cop arrests a woman after an argument, handcuffs and puts her in the back seat, starts texting his wife about how he just made his first arrest, misses a turn, and drives into a river, killing them both.

Body of missing Tennessee deputy who disappeared after making arrest recovered: Officials

The body of a Tennessee deputy who disappeared after making an arrest has been recovered, hours after his patrol vehicle was pulled from a river, officials said Thursday night.

The body of a woman handcuffed in the backseat was also recovered in the vehicle, which was found submerged in the Tennessee River, officials said.

Here's the poor woman...

Tabitha Smith, woman killed in Meigs County crash, remembered by friends

According to the Meigs County Sheriff’s Office, Smith was arrested after Leonard responded to a disturbance call. Officials said Leonard accidentally took the wrong turn and drove into the river. As the cruiser hit the water, she was handcuffed in the back seat and unable to free herself.

[Johnnie]

Re: Cops being trained like military

The funny thing is prior to my Iraq deployment and later on my Qatar/Afghanistan deployment I went through training that had me in a simulated patrol of a village.

Everyone had guns and they were allowed to because we were in their country. So if a group of dudes were casually displaying AK47s you aren't just allowed to shoot them.

And then let's say they started getting a bit hostile with their hands on the grip acting out, but not pointing them at us...you still couldn't do shit.

We had to follow the Escalation of Force rules. Shout, show, shove, shoot.

Hell even if you're being shot with small arms at during a convoy you just drive, drive, drive...

So yea. Cops are not being taught anything near what the military is. They're basically vigilantes with tiny, tiny dicks and no discipline.