Presidential Election 2024

[TankFarm2023]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but I have to wonder what the GOP does if he loses in November. For the sake of clarity, let's assume the House and Senate remain red and blue, respectively. Do Mitch and Lindsey (and the billionaire donor class) gather their members and secretly decide they have to staunch the bleeding, and publicly disavow Trump? Or, cowards that they are, decide to wait and see if he does indeed get convicted, and let the law decide his fate? Does it matter if Biden narrowly retains his presidency, or if Trump loses bigly?


Would Trump try to run in '28 and how might the GOP respond?



As a side note: I just listened to Tim Miller interview Robbie Kaplan, the attorney who's defeated Trump three times now. Her description of the fraud/class action suit involving Trump and ACN is fascinating to this non-attorney. She's a brilliant mind, and a great story teller.

[Johnnie]

Until Trump is gone they capitulate to his whim because the base is wrapped around his micro-cock.

[Pruitt IV]

Until Trump is gone they capitulate to his whim because the base is wrapped around his micro-cock.

It's a cult of personality.

Assholes like Vivek, DeSantis and the rest are sadly mistaken if they think they can take his place.

[Johnnie]

Until Trump is gone they capitulate to his whim because the base is wrapped around his micro-cock.

It's a cult of personality.

Assholes like Vivek, DeSantis and the rest are sadly mistaken if they think they can take his place.

They got no rizz. Trump is White Obama.

[EdRomero]

I don't know. Stalin was pretty successful without the personality of Lenin and his cult of personality. Now I have that song in my head.

[L-Jam3]

It’s because Trump is uniquely skilled in convincing mediocre white people that the cause of their failures in life isn’t their fault, but rather Blacks/immigrants/liberals/educated people/experts/the government/the Deep State. He’s lived that his entire life so he simply repeats his own life philosophy: all of my successes are due to me; all of my failures are due to someone else.

[DaveInSeattle]

Let's see...women are already pissed at Republicans for trashing Roe...what can they do to win them back?

Trump Allies Pledge ‘Holy War’ Against Taylor Swift

Singer-songwriter Taylor Swift hasn’t even endorsed President Joe Biden for reelection yet. That hasn’t stopped members of MAGAland’s upper crust from plotting to declare — as one source close to Donald Trump calls it — a “holy war” on the pop mega-star, especially if she ends up publicly backing the Democrats in the 2024 election.

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In recent weeks, the former president has told people in his orbit that no amount of A-list celebrity endorsements will save Biden. Trump has also privately claimed that he is “more popular” than Swift is and that he has more committed fans than she does, a person close to Trump and another source with knowledge of the matter tell Rolling Stone.

Last month, the source close to Trump adds, the ex-president commented to some confidants that it “obviously” made no sense that he was not named Time magazine’s 2023 Person of the Year — an honor that went to none other than Swift in December.

[mister d]

My kids would definitely not behead me for Swift, so he might be right on the level of extreme devotion if nothing else.

[Johnnie]

Tell me why Charlemagne Tha God is a better journalist than actual journalists in America.

[Jerloma]

Who's the sociopath at Instagram that decided to omit the time cursor from their videos?

[Shirley]

Who's the sociopath at Instagram that decided to omit the time cursor from their videos?

Or a volume control.

[Johnnie]

Biden wins South Carolina primary by 90+ points.

Maryanne Williamson finished second to Biden, btw.



Dean Phillips be like:

[brian]

I mean 95 percent is some legit third-world election stuff. Either the SC Democratic Party is as legit as Turkmenistan or just fucking give it up already. Congrats on imolating your political career dude.

[DSafetyGuy]

I mean 95 percent is some legit third-world election stuff. Either the SC Democratic Party is as legit as Turkmenistan or just fucking give it up already. Congrats on imolating your political career dude.

I'm sure a state representative who is the CEO of a century-old distilling company, sold a gelato company to Unilever, and is the step-grandson of "Dear Abby" is worried about ruining his political career.

Sorry, I'd never heard of him before this primary cycle, so I just looked him up.

[brian]

I thought he was in the House. Either way what an ass kicking.

[mister d]

Blew his chance at transportation secretary in waiting.

[DSafetyGuy]

I thought he was in the House. Either way what an ass kicking.

He is. I knew I would phrase that incorrectly.

[Johnnie]

Blew his chance at transportation secretary in waiting.

Where does ol' Pete go in Biden's potential 2nd term? Secretary of State? He speaks 8 languages. Put his ass to work with that.

Then BOOM. Is the first dude to declare for the 2028 primary season for democrats.

[DSafetyGuy]

Another thing about Phillips...

In our current national climate, I can absolutely see a 55-year-old white male deciding it's worth throwing his hat into the ring for a quixotic campaign after thinking about the presidential line of succession.

[Johnnie]

Swipe through about takes from the Republican primary in Nevada being won by "None of these candidates):

(Not a spoiler or anything. The Instagram caption is just too damn long.)

[+] spoiler

[Pruitt IV]

Swipe through about takes from the Republican primary in Nevada being won by "None of these candidates):

(Not a spoiler or anything. The Instagram caption is just too damn long.)

[+] spoiler

Her "popularity" is clearly just a media construct in order to get more stories from the campaign trail.

[Brontoburglar]

huh?

[Johnnie]

I know it shouldn't blow my mind, but it does when the special prosecutor says that "Joe Biden is a well meaning elderly man with a poor memory" and therefore won't have charges brought against him for the classified documents handling and it's wall to wall coverage headline news everywhere.

And yet, the alternative to Biden IS A FUCKING CHAOS AGENT WITH NO COHERENT THOUGHTS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE EVER. The coverage of Trump doesn't have this level of scrutiny.

Why is it like this? This whole situation is a bad faith argument from the jump. And no one, but Twitter lefties, seen to be pointing this out.

[EnochRoot]

I know it shouldn't blow my mind, but it does when the special prosecutor says that "Joe Biden is a well meaning elderly man with a poor memory" and therefore won't have charges brought against him for the classified documents handling and it's wall to wall coverage headline news everywhere.

And yet, the alternative to Biden IS A FUCKING CHAOS AGENT WITH NO COHERENT THOUGHTS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE EVER. The coverage of Trump doesn't have this level of scrutiny.

Why is it like this? This whole situation is a bad faith argument from the jump. And no one, but Twitter lefties, seen to be pointing this out.

IMO Merrick the Meek needs to walk back the social commentary provided by Hur. That is what you would call a political hit.

Or, just fire Garland into the fucking sun.

[DaveInSeattle]

I know it shouldn't blow my mind, but it does when the special prosecutor says that "Joe Biden is a well meaning elderly man with a poor memory" and therefore won't have charges brought against him for the classified documents handling and it's wall to wall coverage headline news everywhere.

And yet, the alternative to Biden IS A FUCKING CHAOS AGENT WITH NO COHERENT THOUGHTS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE EVER. The coverage of Trump doesn't have this level of scrutiny.

Why is it like this? This whole situation is a bad faith argument from the jump. And no one, but Twitter lefties, seen to be pointing this out.

It's "...but her emails!..." redux.

[Tom 1860]

Does this kind of news get any kind of play time in the states:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68266447

Trump is a scary wanker and this kind of rhetoric is mind blowing.

I read it as, if you don't pay your bills on time, your neighbour can kick your door down, kill you and your family and move in. Not only that, but he would be the rich neighbour, living up the street, calling people up to actively encourage them, and then sit back, watch and not doing anything about it - This sounds strangely familiar to what happened at the capital building...

What a massive cunt he is.

[govmentchedda]

Does this kind of news get any kind of play time in the states:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68266447

Trump is a scary wanker and this kind of rhetoric is mind blowing.

I read it as, if you don't pay your bills on time, your neighbour can kick your door down, kill you and your family and move in. Not only that, but he would be the rich neighbour, living up the street, calling people up to actively encourage them, and then sit back, watch and not doing anything about it - This sounds strangely familiar to what happened at the capital building...

What a massive cunt he is.

He is a massive cunt, and it's not just that this news doesn't get play, it's that few care or know exactly how big a deal this would be.

[Tom 1860]

The thing I honestly find hardest about Trump is that if he does not get in this November, he'll keep running until he gets his 2nd term and/or put forward one of his fuckwit kids as a natural successor. Worst still, there will be millions upon millions of Americans, who think this kind of legacy would help them more than any other kind of political option...

[govmentchedda]

The thing I honestly find hardest about Trump is that if he does not get in this November, he'll keep running until he gets his 2nd term and/or put forward one of his fuckwit kids as a natural successor. Worst still, there will be millions upon millions of Americans, who think this kind of legacy would help them more than any other kind of political option...

The cult of personality doesn't really flow to his kids. No one takes either son seriously at all, and while they've tried with Ivanka, I don't think she passes anything more than a surface level inspection.

[Tom 1860]

Well, hopefully this is the case. The difficulty is that so many septics think Trump is more than just fine, he is fantastic and anything he does is golden.

[HaulCitgo]

What is nato? Americans batting about .440. What's a .44? Them things Americans got more of in their cars than the entirety of natos security force

[sancarlos]

[DaveInSeattle]

Trump suggests daughter-in-law and two others for RNC leadership

Former president Donald Trump said Monday night that he wants his daughter-in-law and one of his top aides to take prominent roles at the Republican National Committee as his team attempts to exert control over the party ahead of the November election.

Putting an unqualified family member in charge of something? What could possibly go wrong.

[EdRomero]

Last time he did it, Jared brought everlasting peace to Israel, right? Right?

[The Sybian]

Last time he did it, Jared brought everlasting peace to Israel, right? Right?

Middle East was solved until Biden ruined everything.

[Shirley]

I mean they're not wrong.

[Nonlinear FC]

I'm torn about Trump maintaining his quasi-cult leader, quasi-wannabe dictator role.

On one hand, he's increasingly unelectable and his track record down ticket is a proven loser.

On the other, at some point, you'd like some adults in the GOP to take back the reins so we aren't continuing down the path of one of two major parties being so anti-government and oppositional to common sense policies and strategies that we're somehow pro-Russia for no other reason than *fuck you, democrat party*... durrrrr....

[Shirley]

I'm pretty damn sure there are other reasons. Russia has been working to get leverage on American politicians (and probably media) for decades. I'm sure their work has borne fruit.

[Johnnie]

I'm pretty damn sure there are other reasons. Russia has been working to get leverage on American politicians (and probably media) for decades. I'm sure their work has borne fruit.

From 2018:

Seven GOP lawmakers make a misguided trip to Russia

They visited on the 4th of July.

Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.)
Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.)
Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)
Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.)
Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.)
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.)

and Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas).

McCain calling out Rand Paul in 2017:



Rand Paul delivered a handwritten note from Trump to Russia in August 2018.

So, yes. Definitely. One thing Mitt Romney was dead on about in 2011/12.

[Nonlinear FC]

Yeah, I didn't want to get into the obvious stuff where Russia and its oligarchs (including Putin) are pretty brazenly bribing and coercing top politicians, most obviously Trump.

I'm more talking about the everyman, mouthbreathing morons who watch Fox and just buy the bullshit.