NBA Regular Season 2023-24 f./ NBA In-Season Tournament 2023-24

[HaulCitgo]

If you don't like winning. Lots of stats but don't recall a lot of wins. Possibly a bricklayer

[GoodKarma]

He passed Alvin Adams and Walter Davis is in first. Would never have guessed either of those guys. I would have thought KJ, Tom Chambers or Steve Nash.

[Shirley]

I was thinking Eddie Johnson.

[Brontoburglar]

If you don't like winning. Lots of stats but don't recall a lot of wins. Possibly a bricklayer

the same Shawn Marion who played in 109 playoff games and was an integral part of the 2011 Mavericks title team?

[HaulCitgo]

you only get the top 250 here.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... eer_p.html

Marion is tied for 128th all time in playoff games. Is there a better player (in top 250 but anyone with better stats...) with less playoff games? id chalk up all I see to shortened playoffs

[HaulCitgo]

An excuse to mention Moses Malone

[mister d]

Ignoring that its a terrible metric for individual players ... there are several dozen HoFers below him including contemporaries like Mutombo, Mourning, etc. Oscar Robertson is T-234 and everyone above him isn't from the expanded era.

[Ryan]

Marion was best case Ben Simmons and his biggest flaw when it comes to the playoffs was simply being the 2nd or 3rd best player on teams that didn't have Kobe, Shaq, or Duncan

[Brontoburglar]

you only get the top 250 here.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... eer_p.html

Marion is tied for 128th all time in playoff games. Is there a better player (in top 250 but anyone with better stats...) with less playoff games? id chalk up all I see to shortened playoffs

you said this

If you don't like winning. Lots of stats but don't recall a lot of wins. Possibly a bricklayer

Shawn Marion played on eight 50-win teams

[HaulCitgo]

Im probably wrong about the winning. Just didnt remember him as doing a bunch of it or else I would have thought of him in the past 15 years.

Still, would somebody please post a vid of this mans jumper.

[Shirley]

Im probably wrong about the winning. Just didnt remember him as doing a bunch of it or else I would have thought of him in the past 15 years.

Still, would somebody please post a vid of this mans jumper.

nsfw

[mister d]

Higher career 3P% than Michael "Air" Jordan ; )

[L-Jam3]

Yes, but what about his +/-?

[mister d]

Pretty suspect that +/- only starts on basketball-reference in 1996-97, right?

[HaulCitgo]

Russian spies have infiltrated webmasters

[sancarlos]

Higher career 3P% than Michael "Air" Jordan ; )

3-pointers got much more highly valued by coaches and GMs in the years that came after 1 BC. (Before Curry)

[Ryan]

The need to make them when you actually shoot them presumably hasn't changed. (Also the line moved in) (Also it was a funny comparison)

[mister d]

I was Rass'ing. A throwback joke.

[Shirley]

Never said he couldn't hit them. But Marion's shot was just fugly. It amazed me whenever it went in (which it did at a surprisingly good clip).

[mister d]

That was cool.

[L-Jam3]

The King stay the King.

[wlu_lax6]

So Golden State signed Pat Spencer to a two-way contract. Not normally something to note, but Pat was the Heisman equivalent in lacrosse for Loyola College. Took one year playing B1G hoops at Northwestern and has been grinding in the G-league for 2 years (last year he got hurt and cut his season short). Not a lot of NBA talent from Boys Latin.

[L-Jam3]

Did the Dubs have Belichick in as a consultant?

[mister d]

I know what Anunoby is going to add when he’s back but I have no idea if Randle is going to be a positive or a negative or what. If it’s the former, Knicks are a real legit contender.

[Brontoburglar]

I think the fear with Randle if he comes back is reinjuring that shoulder. I hope he doesn't need surgery, but feel that it could be the ultimate outcome if he comes back and reinjures it.

[sancarlos]

My shoulder situation isn’t analogous to Julius Randle. And I am certainly far from being any professional athlete. But, the thought of a guy playing professional basketball with a fucked up shoulder seems crazy to me.

Get the surgery, do the PT rehab, and come back strong next season.

[brian]

Was kind of surprised to learn the Clippers have a winning record against the Lakers at Staples/Crypto Center.

[duff]

Was kind of surprised to learn the Clippers have a winning record against the Lakers at Staples/Crypto Center.

Home court advantage.

[A_B]

I gotta say, I am a little surprised that Wembenyama has been as good as he has so soon. Holmgren too. I guess when you don't have to be stuck in the paint the body mass isn't as big of an issue, and height covers up a lot of faults.

[DSafetyGuy]

Players like Wembanyama and Jokic are kind of an end result (not an actual end, obviously) of how the European style of skill development without regard for size helps them become dominant forces. The focus on "little man" skills transforms bigger players into unicorns.

[HaulCitgo]

Agree with this. Counterpoint. Does the USA (or the world) have the ability to ever produce Shaq again? I refuse to believe there is no place on an NBA Finals team for diesel.

[Shirley]

Agree with this. Counterpoint. Does the USA (or the world) have the ability to ever produce Shaq again? I refuse to believe there is no place on an NBA Finals team for diesel.

I suspect that we'll see a Shaq-like big man at some point in the near future. As teams go smaller/skinnier someone with true strength and post skill would likely mop up. I guess Embiid is kind of like this, actually. And when he's healthy (it's rare), he's nearly unstoppable.

[Ryan]

Tough sledding for a true big guy today. If a team shot and made threes at the same rate as they do now against any of Shaq's Lakers, they would have won by 20 points a game. Andre Drummond is barely playable. Giannis is probably the closest comp and they had to go get a guy to make a shot down the stretch.

[HaulCitgo]

Celtics and warriors not playing the same sport

[brian]

Celtics and warriors not playing the same sport

Lolz. Nor are the Cavs apparently.

[mister d]

Tough sledding for a true big guy today. If a team shot and made threes at the same rate as they do now against any of Shaq's Lakers, they would have won by 20 points a game. Andre Drummond is barely playable. Giannis is probably the closest comp and they had to go get a guy to make a shot down the stretch.

If Mitchell Robinson were born in 1968 rather than 1998, he’s in the hall of fame.

[Giff]

Well my favorite Rocket looks like he majorly fucked up his knee and/or ankle. Fuck.

[mister d]

“My ankle’s fucked up bro” compared to what I’d say which is [uncomfortably loud and pathetic sobbing].

[L-Jam3]

I like how the Knicks and Sixers all heard the Gen Xer complaints that the NBA isn’t like it was in the 90s and did their very best to recreate the experience.

[Shirley]

I like how the Knicks and Sixers all heard the Gen Xer complaints that the NBA isn’t like it was in the 90s and did their very best to recreate the experience.

The Twitter explosion of "I watched some 90s games and it proved that Jordan sucked" was wild the last week.