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Taking a slew of draft bets, why not:



Indianapolis to draft a corner in first round (+110)

A bunch of $1 bets on early 2nd round teams to take Xaview Worthy - particularly like Atlanta +5000

Byron Murphy first defensive player drafted (+1100)

Chop Robinson first defensive player drafted (+10000)

Jags to take DL/edge in 1st round (+700)

Lions to take OL (+275)

Ravens to take corner (+550)

Bengals to take DL/Edge (+425)

Broncos to take Penix Jr (+550)

Raiders to take Jayden Daniels (+850)

Titans to take Brock Bowers (+1200)

Joe Alt 5th overall pick (+500)

Drake Maye 2nd overall pick (+110)
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Does that mean you think the Pats will trade back or take Harrison? I'm jonesing for some horse (draft preview).
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I got weird and had them take McCarthy and that just made everything weird
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Yuck..and Im worried you're right.

Anyone looking for Patriots porn, Edelman is podcasting like crazy and has long interviews with Ty Law and Ernie Adams; much better for information compared to Kraft's dynasty bullshit thing. Don't all rush all at once.
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I'm actually kinda intrigued
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To be fair, before everyone got hard for McCarthy, I watched him expecting to be like meh but instead I was like oh wait this guy might be really good
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Gunpowder wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:49 am To be fair, before everyone got hard for McCarthy, I watched him expecting to be like meh but instead I was like oh wait this guy might be really good
Maybe the pats can get him in the 6th round.
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Chiefs may need to consider drafting a receiver.

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Fuck this guy.
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Is that not slander?
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He's not wrong about pharmaceutical companies being corrupt but it has nothing to do with not being able to question science. Question the science all you want...science embraces that. What he's really doing is questioning math and that's hard to say because it really makes you sound like a fucking idiot.

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You should question authority, unless you're a rookie WR
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sancarlos wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:12 pm Fuck this guy.
Looks like he re-watched "Plandemic"
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So, how does Aaron Rogers command a huddle or strengthen a locker room when talking so much shite?

Is professional sport so win/money focused that no one else calls him out or at least takes the piss out of him all the time.
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Tom 1860 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:38 pm So, how does Aaron Rogers command a huddle or strengthen a locker room when talking so much shite?

Is professional sport so win/money focused that no one else calls him out or at least takes the piss out of him all the time.
Because they want to win football games
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Yeah, I think unless some guy goes full on racist, all the other stuff is pretty much *shrug emoji*
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Especially given that a team is just like any office in terms of there being a hierarchy where you can't really talk personal shit upwards even if you think someone is awful.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:15 pm Yeah, I think unless some guy goes full on racist, all the other stuff is pretty much *shrug emoji*
Yeah, I’m finding it isn’t too difficult to ignore him being a crackpot if he can win some games for my team. I’d wish he’d shut up, but whatever. It’d be different if he was making white power speeches or sexually assaulting women in bars.
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Plus, Woody Johnson is a huge Trumpy so shit like that probably gets him rock hard.
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Jerloma wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:53 pm Plus, Woody Johnson is a huge Trumpy so shit like that probably gets him rock hard.
Umm, Woody is the heir to the Johnson & Johnson company, so I don't think he is a big fan of vaccine conspiracy theory talk. While he did enough for Trump to get the Ambassador to the UK gig, I'm sure he donated a fortune for the tax cuts. I don't get the sense he is MAGA at all.
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The Sybian wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:58 pm
Jerloma wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:53 pm Plus, Woody Johnson is a huge Trumpy so shit like that probably gets him rock hard.
Umm, Woody is the heir to the Johnson & Johnson company, so I don't think he is a big fan of vaccine conspiracy theory talk. While he did enough for Trump to get the Ambassador to the UK gig, I'm sure he donated a fortune for the tax cuts. I don't get the sense he is MAGA at all.
Ha! Okay, got me there! I mean I knew that but for some reason just didn't draw the connection. He's a Trumpy for the tax-cuts obviously but whether it's genuine or not, it's still indistinguishable from MAGA.
Johnson claimed the event, in which Trump vowed to keep billionaires’ taxes low, was “unbelievable,” and pointed out that the reported $50 million haul was about twice what President Joe Biden–accompanied by former presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton– reaped through a Manhattan fundraiser last week.

The one hundred or so attendees, Johnson added, were “very appreciative of what Trump is giving up to do this, to save America.”

When asked what Trump told him and the other donors, Johnson didn’t relent on praise for the former president.

“I think it was one of the best speeches. You know, each one gets better and better,” Johnson said, rehashing some of the same points that appear in Trump’s campaign speeches. Trump will be “a lot better” in a second term, Johnson argued, “because he knows what he’s doing now.”

Johnson then described what he believed the former president’s character to be.

“He’s extremely compassionate, and people don’t know that. He’s extremely funny; I think people are starting to appreciate his sense of humor,” claimed the New York Jets owner, who gave a pro-Trump super PAC $1 million last April and has since been working to get other billionaires on the same page.
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Yeah - I think that funding the Trump campaign pretty much puts you in the MAGA camp.
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Points to both Jerloma and Pruitt for challenging the attempt to draw a distinction from MAGA and just in it for tax cuts for the billionaires.
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Pruitt IV wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:27 pm Yeah - I think that funding the Trump campaign pretty much puts you in the MAGA camp.
And if we survive another 4 years of him with democracy still somewhat intact, those are the people who should be held accountable more than anyone. They already have their fucking oligarchy. They know what the next step is.

Fun fact...CV's nail in the coffin for his Pats fandom was Kraft's latest million dollar donation to Trump, which I suppose is admirable on some level but it does seem convenient that they're also bad at football now.

In fact, that could be a perfect, judgment-free way out for you, Syb. Did you hear we have Russell Wilson now? Unlimited, baby!!!
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I'll see what I can do!
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Gunpowder wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:09 pm
Tom 1860 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:38 pm So, how does Aaron Rogers command a huddle or strengthen a locker room when talking so much shite?

Is professional sport so win/money focused that no one else calls him out or at least takes the piss out of him all the time.
Because they want to win football games
In a rugby or football (soccer) changing room in Europe, Aaron Rogers, best player on the team or not, he would be copping all kinds of shite/banter from fellow players and I wonder whether he doesn't get this in the US or it is simply water of a Duck's back and he isn't a huge ego kind of guy.
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Tom 1860 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:45 am
Gunpowder wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:09 pm
Tom 1860 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:38 pm So, how does Aaron Rogers command a huddle or strengthen a locker room when talking so much shite?

Is professional sport so win/money focused that no one else calls him out or at least takes the piss out of him all the time.
Because they want to win football games
In a rugby or football (soccer) changing room in Europe, Aaron Rogers, best player on the team or not, he would be copping all kinds of shite/banter from fellow players and I wonder whether he doesn't get this in the US or it is simply water of a Duck's back and he isn't a huge ego kind of guy.
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Random NFL player you had never heard of before just seeing his name while stat-surfing:

• Donald Hollas
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Gunpowder wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:19 am Random NFL player you had never heard of before just seeing his name while stat-surfing:

• Donald Hollas
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govmentchedda wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:48 am
Tom 1860 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:45 am
Gunpowder wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:09 pm
Tom 1860 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:38 pm So, how does Aaron Rogers command a huddle or strengthen a locker room when talking so much shite?

Is professional sport so win/money focused that no one else calls him out or at least takes the piss out of him all the time.
Because they want to win football games
In a rugby or football (soccer) changing room in Europe, Aaron Rogers, best player on the team or not, he would be copping all kinds of shite/banter from fellow players and I wonder whether he doesn't get this in the US or it is simply water of a Duck's back and he isn't a huge ego kind of guy.
Think of an Aaron Rodgers locker room like a Cristiano Ronaldo locker room.
So he has got an enormous ego then, up there with Trump etc,... Feck him, I'd be giving him so much shit...
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I bet most of the actual players on his team haven't seen most of the interviews and/or don't give a shit. Or potentially need to be his friend so he'll throw them the ball.

Also black people generally aren't exactly trusting of the government.
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In Rodgers’ defense, doesn’t every top of the top athlete have a massive ego? It seems like it’s necessary to have to get to the highest level. Even dudes like Gretzky probably thought all his teammates were trash at times; he just had the self-awareness to keep it to himself.
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Gunpowder wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:19 am Random NFL player you had never heard of before just seeing his name while stat-surfing:

• Donald Hollas
Um, former Bengals legend QB Donald Hollas?
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L-Jam3 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:20 am In Rodgers’ defense, doesn’t every top of the top athlete have a massive ego? It seems like it’s necessary to have to get to the highest level.
Maybe in general, but I think that the inflated egos are more a result of having been so much better at the thing than everyone else prior to getting to the highest level. In terms of focus and desire, I think a fear of failure is a much greater motivator than unwavering confidence.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:20 am In Rodgers’ defense, doesn’t every top of the top athlete have a massive ego? It seems like it’s necessary to have to get to the highest level. Even dudes like Gretzky probably thought all his teammates were trash at times; he just had the self-awareness to keep it to himself.
I will gave it a go to try find it, but there is a brilliant story about ex England footballer player Chris Waddle, joining the coaching staff at Hull(?) and simply giving up because the technical ability of the players was so poor comparatively to him on the training pitch, that he could not tolerate the gap in talent and left after a single training session.
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Tom 1860 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:28 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:20 am In Rodgers’ defense, doesn’t every top of the top athlete have a massive ego? It seems like it’s necessary to have to get to the highest level. Even dudes like Gretzky probably thought all his teammates were trash at times; he just had the self-awareness to keep it to himself.
I will gave it a go to try find it, but there is a brilliant story about ex England footballer player Chris Waddle, joining the coaching staff at Hull(?) and simply giving up because the technical ability of the players was so poor comparatively to him on the training pitch, that he could not tolerate the gap in talent and left after a single training session.
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From the stupid, conspiratorial shit I've heard other pro athletes say out loud, I suspect Rodgers has a lot of teammates who agree with him.
Totally Kafkaesque
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