Robin Williams

cerrano · Post by **cerrano** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:12 pm

nanu, nanu.

speculation that it was suicide. sad stuff.

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:17 pm

This country is so fucked up.

There is an impending coup and renewed escalation in Iraq; the Gaza-Israel war; the Ukraine civil war that would shock no one if Russia invaded or someone set off a nuke.

And network news interrupts normal programming because a movie star died. What the fuck, and how fucking stupid and insipid we have become. Ok, the Queen of England, or an ex-president. But a fucking movie star.

Television network news is 100% worthless and a horrible horrible joke. We are the fucking punch line.

(And Jeopardy! is a rerun. A good rerun, the Chuck Forrest first round of the 80s decade tourney, but just a rerun. So that ain't why I'm so wound up.)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:31 pm

You're so fucked up, Howard. All the wars and bad stuff and you're just watching television.

(Now I need to go watch "Good Will Hunting".)

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:36 pm

Jeopardy! Not televison. Jeopardy!

(Now I need to go watch Good Morning Vietnam)

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:38 pm

howard wrote:Jeopardy! Not televison. Jeopardy!

(Now I need to go watch Good Morning Vietnam)

Jeopardy! is the Bapo! of TV gameshows

cerrano · Post by **cerrano** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:40 pm

howard wrote:Jeopardy! Not televison. Jeopardy!

(Now I need to go watch Good Morning Vietnam)

no takers for popeye?

(this is what i would watch first.)

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:55 pm

1. Fisher King
2. One Hour Photo
3. GMVN
4. Popeye
5. Moscow on the Hudson

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:58 pm

howard wrote:1. Fisher King
2. One Hour Photo
3. GMVN
4. Popeye
5. Moscow on the Hudson

Don't you have a war or a looming financial crisis to report on?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:03 pm

1. Who Cares?
2. Doesn't Matter.
3. This is Pointless.
4. Utterly Pointless.
5. Flubber.

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:09 pm

Hey, bitches. I'm old enough to have seen Williams do stand up, before Mork. I peed myself, I was laughing so hard.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:10 pm

Never heard of him.

Post by **Shirley** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:24 pm

Wow. That really sucks. Back in the 70s and 80s when he was on top of his game, there really wasn't anyone better. Like Howard, I remember his standup (but not before Mork and Mindy) and he was incredible. Just an amazing ball of energy. He was a great Tonight Show and Late Night guest as well.

He did a lot of crap late in his career, but he had a pretty nice peak.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:36 pm

Depression sucks.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:20 pm

Best of Times was quietly really good.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:32 pm

If you've never seen The World According To Garp, you really should update your queue.

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:34 pm

First thought was that my mom really likes him.

Second thought was that if Bobby Weir is as sick as he seems and passes this week, I might have to mom some flowers.

Third thought, upon hearing the details was...

govmentchedda wrote:Depression sucks.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:35 pm

In related news: Tony Stewart will miss his next two races because he injured his right shoulder high fiving his team upon hearing of Williams passing.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:57 pm

Shirley wrote: Just an amazing ball of energy.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:02 pm

It is amazing how many of my facebook friends are shattered this evening.

And it is amazing that they keep posting about how shattered they are.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:11 pm

The guy was a huge, huge, huge supporter of the troops overseas. And he was a force comedically for such a long time. Universally loved for just about everything. He's just one of those people that you don't want to see go. It sucks to wake up and read about this. Damn.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:13 pm

Pruitt wrote:It is amazing how many of my facebook friends are shattered this evening.

And it is amazing that they keep posting about how shattered they are.

yup it's everywhere, even from the teenagers!

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:15 pm

Very sad. He was soooo funny back at his peak. Mork, standup, Doubtfire, GMV. Also echo LJam's comments on Garp. Loved him in his serious roles like GWH and Dead Poets too.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:52 pm

"Cocaine is God's way of telling you that you are making too much money."

- my favorite Robin Williams quote

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:08 pm

govmentchedda wrote:Depression sucks.

He had a triple whammy (I am guessing/assuming.) Clinical depression. Substance abuse w/relapses. Open heart surgery w/an hour or so on the bypass pump.

A small but significant percentage of people after bypass develop severe depression and other mental impairments. Seems to happen more often with aortic valve surgery (or it did last time I looked at the data, which is at least 15 years ago.)

Here is an article by one patient who suffered 'pumphead' impairments after surgery. I have no idea if Williams suffered from this phenomenon.

HDO45331 · Post by **HDO45331** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:19 am

howard wrote:This country is so fucked up.

There is an impending coup and renewed escalation in Iraq; the Gaza-Israel war; the Ukraine civil war that would shock no one if Russia invaded or someone set off a nuke.

And network news interrupts normal programming because a movie star died. What the fuck, and how fucking stupid and insipid we have become. Ok, the Queen of England, or an ex-president. But a fucking movie star.

Television network news is 100% worthless and a horrible horrible joke. We are the fucking punch line.

(And Jeopardy! is a rerun. A good rerun, the Chuck Forrest first round of the 80s decade tourney, but just a rerun. So that ain't why I'm so wound up.)

The Obama administration caused it to get people away from talking about Benghazi, Ukraine, etc.

Post by **brian** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:57 am

I think he might have just been a Tigers fan.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:51 am

brian wrote:I think he might have just been a Tigers fan.

Early Hook for Verlander giving you Insomnia?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:18 am

Threadjack - A friend of mine just had aortic valve surgery. Flew up to NY Presbyterian for it. He either had one more or one less valve than he needed. Sounds like he's doing OK.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:06 am

I'm going to post here later today about my thoughts with his depression, and how mine has had effects on my own life. I'll write it up on Word first.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:32 am

One of the X people that was universally recognized and loved, no?

(Would love to know what = X)

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:48 am

L-Jam3 wrote:I'm going to post here later today about my thoughts with his depression, and how mine has had effects on my own life. I'll write it up on Word first.

Look forward to reading that. It's always interesting hearing other people's thoughts and experiences, helps me sort out my own shit or gives me insights into myself. I also find it extremely helpful to write about it. I find it nearly impossible to talk about, which is why I dump shit here from time to time. It took me 7 or 8 years to finally seek help, and looking back it is amazing how difficult it was to do such a simple task as picking up the phone and calling for an appointment. I took psych 101 in college almost solely to figure out what was wrong with me, loved psych courses so much I took it up as a second major almost as a hobby. It took another 3 or 4 years or so to be able to even admit my depression to anyone else. Nobody has ever had a bad response, and I know the stigma is gone (for the most part) in society (thanks, Tipper!), but I still feel shame and fear of people I know finding out.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:01 am

Brontoburglar wrote:One of the X people that was universally recognized and loved, no?

(Would love to know what = X)

Its a variable used in math equations where the number is unknown.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:08 am

howard wrote: He had a triple whammy (I am guessing/assuming.) Clinical depression. Substance abuse w/relapses. Open heart surgery w/an hour or so on the bypass pump.

A small but significant percentage of people after bypass develop severe depression and other mental impairments. Seems to happen more often with aortic valve surgery (or it did last time I looked at the data, which is at least 15 years ago.)

[url=http://]Here is an article by one patient who suffered 'pumphead' impairments after surgery.[/url] I have no idea if Williams suffered from this phenomenon.

Fascinating article. Had no idea. It shouldn't be surprising that having your heart stopped and artificially reoxygenating your blood in a machine and pumping it back into you can have effects on the brain. Freaky shit, stopping your heart with potassium and lowering body temp to 77 degrees. Whoever thought of that is a genius, but I can't imagine trying the technique for the first time. How do they get the heart going again?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:12 am

Brontoburglar wrote:One of the X people that was universally recognized and loved, no?

(Would love to know what = X)

There are (were) plenty of people who couldn't stand his shtick, if all they saw of him were awards presentations and the like. eg. "Does he always have to be on?"

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:13 am

The Sybian wrote: How do they get the heart going again?

The love from your folksy but cuter sister?

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:20 am

Ryan wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:One of the X people that was universally recognized and loved, no?

(Would love to know what = X)
There are (were) plenty of people who couldn't stand his shtick, if all they saw of him were awards presentations and the like. eg. "Does he always have to be on?"

Yeah, he always tried so hard that he could easily be annoying when he wasn't on point or you weren't in the mood for him. I definitely get why a lot of people may not have liked his work - although I bet many of those never saw his standup.

I think partly why this hit so hard is that he was always so cheerful and he did his thing for so long. It's not unusual for manic/depressive types to burn out early, particularly when they hit a certain level of fame (e.g. Kurt Cobain). But Williams was a superstar for nearly 40 years. You'd think he must have figured out a ton of different, effective coping mechanisms.

But I guess not - and that's fucking scary.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:44 am

Do you think his show being cancelled was a factor? The last straw?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:49 am

degenerasian wrote:Do you think his show being cancelled was a factor? The last straw?

I doubt it. He's been in his share of flops, so you learn to deal with that part. I imagine it was more the constant pressure of staying sober more than anything.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:02 am

Pruitt wrote:It is amazing how many of my facebook friends are shattered this evening.

And it is amazing that they keep posting about how shattered they are.

Even more amazing that people are still amazed at how people act on Facebook.

Post by **brian** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:43 pm

Marc Maron reposted the 2010 WTF interview with Robin Williams. Worth a re-listen.