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NFL Week 5
Vikings/Packers tonight, a little more juice there if Bridgewater can go.
Ravens/Colts on Sunday should be a good one - maybe best game of day on paper.
Ravens/Colts on Sunday should be a good one - maybe best game of day on paper.
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Broncos vs. Cardinals could be entertaining. Arizona has beaten three out of three decent teams.
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I don't see many punts in the ATL-NYG tilt either.
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Yeah, that's potentially very good also.sancarlos wrote:Broncos vs. Cardinals could be entertaining. Arizona has beaten three out of three decent teams.
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thursday night football continues to be a shitty idea.
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That 2011 draft - 10th pick Blaine Gabbert, 12th pick Christian Ponder.
A lot of scouts and NFL geniuses must have at some point thought that these two guys would succeed in the NFL.
Just for fun - 11th pick, JJ Watt and 14th pick Robert Quinn.
A lot of scouts and NFL geniuses must have at some point thought that these two guys would succeed in the NFL.
Just for fun - 11th pick, JJ Watt and 14th pick Robert Quinn.
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Glad I opted out of that one. Looks like Minnesota finally became who we thought they were.tennbengal wrote:thursday night football continues to be a shitty idea.
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Well, they had to play Ponder, so they are who we thought they were with a horrible qb under center.The Sybian wrote:Glad I opted out of that one. Looks like Minnesota finally became who we thought they were.tennbengal wrote:thursday night football continues to be a shitty idea.
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I don't remember many people thinking that Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder were worth anything near those selections.
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Indeed not. Just two horrible picks.Gunpowder wrote:I don't remember many people thinking that Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder were worth anything near those selections.
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I can't find it but I remember posting a mock draft that was incredulous that Gabbs was considered a top 10 prospect.
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Throw EJ Manuel into that grouping too...I couldn't believe he went first round, much less top 10.
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And Jake Locker for that matter. There have been some real QB whiffs of late.
It's why I think the Bengals get too much heat for Dalton. Rather take a shot in round 2 like they did than reach in round 1.
It's why I think the Bengals get too much heat for Dalton. Rather take a shot in round 2 like they did than reach in round 1.
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tennbengal wrote:Throw EJ Manuel into that grouping too...I couldn't believe he went first round, much less top 10.
EJ I accepted because it was such a horrible draft year. Like it was either him or Tyler Eifert.
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And I remember my friends and I being upset at the Watt pick. I'll admit it! We wanted Prince Akamuruaaraurua. Just like we wanted Baby Jordan over Robert Horry (WHO?!?) in the '93 NBA draft.
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With all the Geno bashing in New York, I've been thinking about the recent trend of expecting drafted QBs to succeed immediately. In the old days (80s and 90s), it was standard that a QB prospect would hold the clipboard for 2 or 3 years to learn the game before being given a shot. Conventional wisdom was that a rookie couldn't succeed. Peyton Manning was an outlier, and he kind of proved the CW right, although he beat the odds and improved into an adequate QB.tennbengal wrote:Throw EJ Manuel into that grouping too...I couldn't believe he went first round, much less top 10.
When did the CW change? Do coaches have more pressure to start young QBs? Is it because college playbooks are more advanced and similar to pro playbooks?
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I think of late - maybe some change due to rookie salary cap? If you can get a qb and get them good soon, they are cost effective for four years on their rookie deals...maybe that has something to do with it?
I have seen it on both sides in last decade. Bengals sat Palmer for a year behind Kitna and he was just fine when he finally started. But Bengals have been awfully regular season successful (playoff losses acknowledged) with Dalton under center from day 1.
I have seen it on both sides in last decade. Bengals sat Palmer for a year behind Kitna and he was just fine when he finally started. But Bengals have been awfully regular season successful (playoff losses acknowledged) with Dalton under center from day 1.
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I don't understand the relation to TNF being a shitty idea and last night's game.
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I think it was a non sequiter.Jerloma wrote:I don't understand the relation to TNF being a shitty idea and last night's game.
Not much to talk about otherwise with respect to the game.
Although Thursday night games remain a shitty idea.
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For the viewers?
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For everyone, no? Bad product, bad for player's health, I guess it's good for TV, so we are stuck with it, but I have hated the idea from the jump and still hate it.Jerloma wrote:For the viewers?
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I hate it too, primarily because I want my Sundays as stuffed with games as possible. I wish they played 8 games at 1:00 and 8 at 4:00 and then went away while I played with my jerk kids for the other 6 days.
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Thursday night scores this year: 36-16, 26-6, 56-14, 45-14, 42-10.
Maybe prep and rest time help in football.
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Why do they only help one team?
GB and Seattle had all offseason to prepare, yet they still had a blowout as well. Probably just bad matchups.
GB and Seattle had all offseason to prepare, yet they still had a blowout as well. Probably just bad matchups.
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Weren't there people who used to blame Super Bowl blowouts on the 2-week layoff, saying it gave the superior team too much time to gameplan?
I do think the circumstances sucked for Ponder this week. Not that he could have made up 25 points with a few more days of prep, but that's a tough spot.
I do think the circumstances sucked for Ponder this week. Not that he could have made up 25 points with a few more days of prep, but that's a tough spot.
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I like watching football so I like there being games on Thursday nights. If it's a shitty game, I won't watch it...which is exactly what I'd be doing if there's no game. Absolutely nothing to lose.
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Thank god that Vikings ass kicking happened on a Thursday, my weekly pool only includes sunday and monday games and i never bet against the Vikings in this pool, no matter what the spread. And I have a feeling it wasn't Vikings +32.
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I turned it off and went to bed after it was 7-0 for Green Bay and Lacy busted through for 18 and then 29 yards in two consecutive plays. And I'm a Vikings fan. I just knew it would be a bad night for Minnesota. Woke up with a bunch of texts making fun of my team, but at least i got a good night's sleep.Jerloma wrote:I like watching football so I like there being games on Thursday nights. If it's a shitty game, I won't watch it...which is exactly what I'd be doing if there's no game. Absolutely nothing to lose.
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I think modern QBs are considered to be ready at an earlier age due to:The Sybian wrote:With all the Geno bashing in New York, I've been thinking about the recent trend of expecting drafted QBs to succeed immediately. In the old days (80s and 90s), it was standard that a QB prospect would hold the clipboard for 2 or 3 years to learn the game before being given a shot. Conventional wisdom was that a rookie couldn't succeed. Peyton Manning was an outlier, and he kind of proved the CW right, although he beat the odds and improved into an adequate QB.
When did the CW change? Do coaches have more pressure to start young QBs? Is it because college playbooks are more advanced and similar to pro playbooks?
1. Colleges running pro-type passing offenses, or at least throwing the ball a lot
2. High schools throwing the ball
3. Summer passing leagues (e.g., 7 v 7)
4. Summer QB camps and private QB coaches
In many cases, gifted young quarterbacks are developing 10-12 months per year, starting early in high school.
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I think the old rookie salary structure played into it as well.DC47 wrote:I think modern QBs are considered to be ready at an earlier age due to:The Sybian wrote:With all the Geno bashing in New York, I've been thinking about the recent trend of expecting drafted QBs to succeed immediately. In the old days (80s and 90s), it was standard that a QB prospect would hold the clipboard for 2 or 3 years to learn the game before being given a shot. Conventional wisdom was that a rookie couldn't succeed. Peyton Manning was an outlier, and he kind of proved the CW right, although he beat the odds and improved into an adequate QB.
When did the CW change? Do coaches have more pressure to start young QBs? Is it because college playbooks are more advanced and similar to pro playbooks?
1. Colleges running pro-type passing offenses, or at least throwing the ball a lot
2. High schools throwing the ball
3. Summer passing leagues (e.g., 7 v 7)
4. Summer QB camps and private QB coaches
In many cases, gifted young quarterbacks are developing 10-12 months per year, starting early in high school.
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A huge part of it. You can't sit your highest paid player.Brontoburglar wrote: I think the old rookie salary structure played into it as well.
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Panthers score when Bears' gunner flattens punt returner before ball gets there, then returner eventually picks up loose ball and runs 79 yards for a touchdown.
Been a less than fun last eight days of my sports fan life and a bad omen for the remainder of this game.
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Pretty nasty looking neck/head injury to a Bills DB on a punt. Hope that kid's OK
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Lions look like hot garbage, but the Bills are hotter garbage fortunately (both Ds are playing pretty well though, Bills killing themselves with penalties).
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The Falcons on 4th and 1 at MetLife. Some things never change.
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Ravens making the atheists look good again.
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And Jim Swartz getting carried off the field on his players' shoulders. What a dick.
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That was a classic Lions loss. From top to bottom. Just an A+ encapsulation of my entire miserable life.
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That knocked me out of my survivor pool at work. I was nervous picking the lions, but they had the Bills at home!brian wrote:That was a classic Lions loss. From top to bottom. Just an A+ encapsulation of my entire miserable life.
Totally Kafkaesque