2014 World Series -- Royals vs. Giants

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:21 am

mister d wrote:Not counting Cain's half mile running catch last night.

Or the two sliding catches he made in right in Game 4 that Aoki doesn't make.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:38 am

You can look at it how you want, and oviously they are good, but they weren't making plays that looked awfully similar to plays I've seen them make in my admittedly small sample size and which seemed to be the point of the Grantland article about them.

They gave up 15 hits in the 360+ innings they played together this year. They haven't been as good in the World Series.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:10 am

sancarlos wrote:Gotta win it Tuesday, methinks. I have a lot more faith in Peavy than Hudson.

I agree

The last team to trail the World Series 3-2 coming home, win Game 6 but lose Game 7 were the 1975 Red Sox (Fisk home run)

Since then the following teams trailing 3-2 coming home who won Game 6 have won Game 7 as well.

82 Cardinals
85 Royals
86 Mets
87 Twins
91 Twins
01 Diamondback
02 Angels
11 Cardinals

In most of these cases, the road team lost Game 6 in heartbreaking fashion.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:59 pm

another question, (i seem to have many questions today)

What makes Baumgarner succeed in the playoffs and Kershaw fail? Are they fundamentally different? To me they're both left-handed and nasty but I'm not studying it that closely.

Post by **brian** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:05 pm

Small sample size in my opinion. Over 32-34 starts their stats would probably equalize.

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:30 pm

I had a sense of the importance of the road team winning game 6. I had no idea the count was so one-sided. Maybe a five-run lead for the bully to protect will suffice. This time.

degenerasian wrote:
sancarlos wrote:Gotta win it Tuesday, methinks. I have a lot more faith in Peavy than Hudson.
I agree

The last team to trail the World Series 3-2 coming home, win Game 6 but lose Game 7 were the 1975 Red Sox (Fisk home run)

Since then the following teams trailing 3-2 coming home who won Game 6 have won Game 7 as well.

82 Cardinals
85 Royals
86 Mets
87 Twins
91 Twins
01 Diamondback
02 Angels
11 Cardinals

In most of these cases, the road team lost Game 6 in heartbreaking fashion.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:40 pm

And the only home teams to be down 3-2 and lose Game 6 in that time frame are the:

1978 Dodgers
1992 Braves
2003 Yankees

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:10 pm

I went back and looked. Since 1920, home teams in Game 6 that entered trailing 3-2 are 23-7 in Game 6. The winners are 13-10 in Game 7, which means that it's obviously been a significant trend turnaround recently.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:03 am

Brontoburglar wrote:I went back and looked. Since 1920, home teams in Game 6 that entered trailing 3-2 are 23-7 in Game 6. The winners are 13-10 in Game 7, which means that it's obviously been a significant trend turnaround recently.

Small sample size and all, but based on that, the Royals have a 43.3% chance of winning the Series.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:22 am

Brontoburglar wrote:And the only home teams to be down 3-2 and lose Game 6 in that time frame are the:

1978 Dodgers
1992 Braves
2003 Yankees

I was in attendance at two of those (LA and NY). Thus, if I don't get to KC this afternoon, all is lost!

Post by **brian** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:12 am

sancarlos wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:I went back and looked. Since 1920, home teams in Game 6 that entered trailing 3-2 are 23-7 in Game 6. The winners are 13-10 in Game 7, which means that it's obviously been a significant trend turnaround recently.
Small sample size and all, but based on that, the Royals have a 43.3% chance of winning the Series.

Yeah, I just put some more cash on them at +235 (to win the series). If they win Game 6 I might hedge some of it back, but I really think if San Fran doesn't win tonight they don't win the series.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:15 am

Hunter Pence will make a game-winning play tonight and be runner up for World Series MVP. Book it!

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:46 pm

Geez, Peavy is making good pitches, none of these three hits were ripped, Belt usually snags that ground ball double by Moose. One in, two on, none out in the second.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:50 pm

Belt having a howler out there.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:57 pm

Peavy didn't back up home, second failure to cover a base. Excellent ABs by Perez and Aoki. Hook. Petit time.

ETA: ah, because Krukow is much smarter than me, he just pointed out Peavy did not cover first because he thought Belt would have to throw home, and Peavy was avoiding getting in the way of that throw. But runner on third (Mous) did not break. Inches and subtlety.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:08 pm

can you have a BABIP higher than 1.000?

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:17 pm

To quote a line from ancient baseball scripture (Ball Four), the prophet Shultz: Aw, shitfuck!

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:30 pm

Well the bottom half of the second and the top half of the third were certainly extremes

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:59 pm

Can't wait. This is awesome.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:10 am

After winning their first eight postseason games the royals have followed up by playing just .500 baseball.

Food for thought.

SportsDoc · Post by **SportsDoc** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:15 am

AB_skin_test wrote:Hunter Pence will make a game-winning play tonight and be runner up for World Series MVP. Book it!

For tonight's encore, you have ... what?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:16 am

SportsDoc wrote:
AB_skin_test wrote:Hunter Pence will make a game-winning play tonight and be runner up for World Series MVP. Book it!
For tonight's encore, you have ... what?

I guess you'll just have to wait and see.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:18 am

Wikipedia is on it.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:20 am

on second thought, they should already have the "L" up in the 4th column. Lazy.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:29 am

howard wrote:Can't wait. This is awesome.

You're going down like Sasha Grey at a frat party.

boxcar · Post by **boxcar** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:00 am

on it's way to Cooperstown. it took a fucking 22 year old dying for Cardinals fans to root for the Royals, but here we are.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:06 pm

Last time the crappier manager won the World Series was 2008. Will that streak end???????

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:17 pm

There have been way too few World Series Game 7s in the Swamp Era. Any Philly guys want to meet up to watch it in Center City tonight?

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:41 pm

Michael Rosenberg @Rosenberg_Mike · 21h 21 hours ago
If Madison Bumgarner gives up 52 straight HRs, he'll still have a lower career postseason ERA than Jake Peavy.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:47 pm

Could be me in five hours:

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:06 pm

Hunter pence does it all, fulfilling the prophecies of an early scouting report by the smartest person I know while he was in lexington with the legends.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:17 pm

I'll be honest, no matter what happens, this is easily the toughest test of my composure. I'm alright, but damn, this is nothing like the other games so far.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:39 pm

nice ABs, two-strike hits by pence and belt.

Edit--the four fans with the giant panda heads are in my head. belt, not panda.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:42 pm

Nice to quiet the crowd a bit. But, somehow, I don't think that is the last of the scoring this evening.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:47 pm

Definitely not. There's action in this one.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:47 pm

Hit slightly above the knee, hopefully he'll be able to continue and be ok.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:50 pm

Doc and Bronto, just for you guys in watching tonight's game in that bar the three of us and Sabo and his buddy watched Halladay's perfecto. Just seemed appropriate.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:54 pm

I don't think Howard ever in his life thought he would see Affeldt in the 2nd inning.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:55 pm

They got Timmay and Maddy behind Affleck. In 2010 Affelt came in that clinching game in Philly (2010) in the third.

L-Jam3 wrote:Doc and Bronto, just for you guys in watching tonight's game in that bar the three of us and Sabo and his buddy watched Halladay's perfecto. Just seemed appropriate.

That was a fun night.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:10 pm

howard wrote:They got Timmay and Maddy behind Affleck. In 2010 Affelt came in that clincing game in Philly in the third.

L-Jam3 wrote:Doc and Bronto, just for you guys in watching tonight's game in that bar the three of us and Sabo and his buddy watched Halladay's perfecto. Just seemed appropriate.
That was a fun night.

Yes that was. That's awesome.

Very few fans have sat down tonight.