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This isn't a movie review thread, just a place to bring up obvious plot flaws in film that you notice. Be it time infractions, character miscues, plot holes, or a simple wardrobe malfunction.
Anyway, i started this thread because of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, just watched it for the second time. I Didn't question anything about it the first time I saw it in the theater because it was awesome. But on second viewing, I have one question... How do the apes know how to use the guns so well right away? It would be like Aliens coming to earth and accidentally handing us a gooey blob. A gooey blob that was a weapon! and then we just charged at them with gooey blobs and killed them all. Gooey blobs that they have been handling all their lives!
At least have an apes weapon training montage to make it more realistic! with some cheesy 80's music layered on top.
Anyway, i started this thread because of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, just watched it for the second time. I Didn't question anything about it the first time I saw it in the theater because it was awesome. But on second viewing, I have one question... How do the apes know how to use the guns so well right away? It would be like Aliens coming to earth and accidentally handing us a gooey blob. A gooey blob that was a weapon! and then we just charged at them with gooey blobs and killed them all. Gooey blobs that they have been handling all their lives!
At least have an apes weapon training montage to make it more realistic! with some cheesy 80's music layered on top.
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Back to the Future: In the "new" present, wouldn't it have struck Marty's parents as kind of strange that their son ended up being a dead ringer for that guy who 30 years earlier had showed up without explanation, changed the course of their lives, and then disappeared?
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I still don't know why Bill Murray didn't sleep with the crazy prostitute in Lost In Translation.
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Johansson may have seemed crazy, but I didn't pick up any plot lines that implied she was a prostitute.
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Pru, you mean the "Lip my stocking!" prostitute, right? Maybe he follows the Old Swamp adage of never sticking one's dick in crazy.
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or just use the eagles in Lord of the Rings...
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Yeah, didn't mean Scarlett Johansson, I meant the Japanese woman. And I'd forgotten just how crazy she was.L-Jam3 wrote:Pru, you mean the "Lip my stocking!" prostitute, right? Maybe he follows the Old Swamp adage of never sticking one's dick in crazy.
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Right? And nobody noticed when his father changed from Crispin Glover to some other guy? Just watched 1 and 2 with the kids. My son has been reading a lot of books involving time travel, so he is way into the concept right now. I was really shocked at how well they understood it, especially in the second one with the alternate versions of the future.Johnny Carwash wrote:Back to the Future: In the "new" present, wouldn't it have struck Marty's parents as kind of strange that their son ended up being a dead ringer for that guy who 30 years earlier had showed up without explanation, changed the course of their lives, and then disappeared?
I remembered Leah Thompson being hot, but damn was she hot! Which got me thinking. If Marty gave in, and banged his Mother when she was a teenager and knocked her up, she probably wouldn't have gotten together with George. Which means Marty never would have been porn, and couldn't go back in time to knock her up in the first place. Would the past play out with Marty's mom having an inbred child/grandchild, or would the baby cease to exist because Marty was never born? Mind. Blown. Where is Paul Carr when we need him?
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just noting that typoThe Sybian wrote:Right? And nobody noticed when his father changed from Crispin Glover to some other guy? Just watched 1 and 2 with the kids. My son has been reading a lot of books involving time travel, so he is way into the concept right now. I was really shocked at how well they understood it, especially in the second one with the alternate versions of the future.Johnny Carwash wrote:Back to the Future: In the "new" present, wouldn't it have struck Marty's parents as kind of strange that their son ended up being a dead ringer for that guy who 30 years earlier had showed up without explanation, changed the course of their lives, and then disappeared?
I remembered Leah Thompson being hot, but damn was she hot! Which got me thinking. If Marty gave in, and banged his Mother when she was a teenager and knocked her up, she probably wouldn't have gotten together with George. Which means Marty never would have been porn, and couldn't go back in time to knock her up in the first place. Would the past play out with Marty's mom having an inbred child/grandchild, or would the baby cease to exist because Marty was never born? Mind. Blown. Where is Paul Carr when we need him?
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Also just realized that none of the first Back to the Future movie takes place in the actual "future" from the point of view of the protagonist.
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Johnny Carwash wrote:Also just realized that none of the first Back to the Future movie takes place in the actual "future" from the point of view of the protagonist.
But he went into the past from the present which, to the people in the past was the future that he had to get back to even though it was technically his present.
That should clear things up.
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They need to make movies going further back in time.
For example Bill and Ted in the Tudors or something.
For example Bill and Ted in the Tudors or something.
Kung Fu movies are like porn. There's 1 on 1, then 2 on 1, then a group scene..
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Aren't the princesses from this time period?degenerasian wrote:They need to make movies going further back in time.
For example Bill and Ted in the Tudors or something.
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Rush2112 wrote:Aren't the princesses from this time period?degenerasian wrote:They need to make movies going further back in time.
For example Bill and Ted in the Tudors or something.
ok bad example.. take a current character now.
I don't know. Carrie from Sex in the City and put her in 1776 Manhattan.
Kung Fu movies are like porn. There's 1 on 1, then 2 on 1, then a group scene..
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Let's talk about real problems.
-- The technology for building a shrink ray that could potentially shrink your family does not exist.
-- No one waits forever on a chick they banged a few times and then she moves away with her family, even if you do write her some letters
-- People have been putting baby in the corner for hundreds of years. Where does that Swayzee MFer get the gall to think he can change things?
-- The technology for building a shrink ray that could potentially shrink your family does not exist.
-- No one waits forever on a chick they banged a few times and then she moves away with her family, even if you do write her some letters
-- People have been putting baby in the corner for hundreds of years. Where does that Swayzee MFer get the gall to think he can change things?
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Umm, because Swayze is AWESOME! have you even seen Roadhouse?BSF21 wrote: -- People have been putting baby in the corner for hundreds of years. Where does that Swayzee MFer get the gall to think he can change things?
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Speaking of Road House, is bouncer a profession where you can have a nationwide reputation? Do people in Atlanta, for example, know who the best bouncer in Seattle is? Do people at one end of Atlanta know who the best bouncer on the other end of Atlanta is?
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Yeah, it's this guy named Dalton. Duh. I thought that was a documentary?Johnny Carwash wrote:Speaking of Road House, is bouncer a profession where you can have a nationwide reputation? Do people in Atlanta, for example, know who the best bouncer in Seattle is? Do people at one end of Atlanta know who the best bouncer on the other end of Atlanta is?
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The Sybian wrote:Right? And nobody noticed when his father changed from Crispin Glover to some other guy? Just watched 1 and 2 with the kids. My son has been reading a lot of books involving time travel, so he is way into the concept right now. I was really shocked at how well they understood it, especially in the second one with the alternate versions of the future.Johnny Carwash wrote:Back to the Future: In the "new" present, wouldn't it have struck Marty's parents as kind of strange that their son ended up being a dead ringer for that guy who 30 years earlier had showed up without explanation, changed the course of their lives, and then disappeared?
I remembered Leah Thompson being hot, but damn was she hot! Which got me thinking. If Marty gave in, and banged his Mother when she was a teenager and knocked her up, she probably wouldn't have gotten together with George. Which means Marty never would have been porn, and couldn't go back in time to knock her up in the first place. Would the past play out with Marty's mom having an inbred child/grandchild, or would the baby cease to exist because Marty was never born? Mind. Blown. Where is Paul Carr when we need him?
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Outlander has a chick from the 1940s going back to the 1740s.degenerasian wrote:Rush2112 wrote:Aren't the princesses from this time period?degenerasian wrote:They need to make movies going further back in time.
For example Bill and Ted in the Tudors or something.
ok bad example.. take a current character now.
I don't know. Carrie from Sex in the City and put her in 1776 Manhattan.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Calling Doctor Freud, Doctor Freud please pick up the white courtesy phone.degenerasian wrote:The Sybian wrote:Right? And nobody noticed when his father changed from Crispin Glover to some other guy? Just watched 1 and 2 with the kids. My son has been reading a lot of books involving time travel, so he is way into the concept right now. I was really shocked at how well they understood it, especially in the second one with the alternate versions of the future.
I remembered Leah Thompson being hot, but damn was she hot! Which got me thinking. If Marty gave in, and banged his Mother when she was a teenager and knocked her up, she probably wouldn't have gotten together with George. Which means Marty never would have been porn, and couldn't go back in time to knock her up in the first place. Would the past play out with Marty's mom having an inbred child/grandchild, or would the baby cease to exist because Marty was never born? Mind. Blown. Where is Paul Carr when we need him?
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Pretty much every movie I see is riddled with highly implausible plot lines or characters who do absurd things. Reality is inconvenient when you are writing for the big laugh or the big cry. I try to just turn off the censor, and say "it is art." Van Gogh's sunflowers weren't all that life-like.
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Let the Onion explain it...
http://www.theonion.com/articles/romant ... ested,757/
http://www.theonion.com/articles/romant ... ested,757/
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DC47 wrote:Calling Doctor Freud, Doctor Freud please pick up the white courtesy phone.degenerasian wrote:The Sybian wrote:Right? And nobody noticed when his father changed from Crispin Glover to some other guy? Just watched 1 and 2 with the kids. My son has been reading a lot of books involving time travel, so he is way into the concept right now. I was really shocked at how well they understood it, especially in the second one with the alternate versions of the future.
I remembered Leah Thompson being hot, but damn was she hot! Which got me thinking. If Marty gave in, and banged his Mother when she was a teenager and knocked her up, she probably wouldn't have gotten together with George. Which means Marty never would have been porn, and couldn't go back in time to knock her up in the first place. Would the past play out with Marty's mom having an inbred child/grandchild, or would the baby cease to exist because Marty was never born? Mind. Blown. Where is Paul Carr when we need him?
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I think Waterworld had the biggest deus ex machina moments out of any other contemporary movie I can think of. A whole globe covered in water and somebody always suddenly appeared when a rescue was needed.
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Plus also, vagina gills.P.D.X. wrote:I think Waterworld had the biggest deus ex machina moments out of any other contemporary movie I can think of. A whole globe covered in water and somebody always suddenly appeared when a rescue was needed.
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I can suspend critical thought in the name of an entertaining movie. But, then there are movies so irritatingly implausible and without entertainment merit that you want to throw a stuffed animal toy at the screen. Like, Face-Off.DC47 wrote:Pretty much every movie I see is riddled with highly implausible plot lines or characters who do absurd things. Reality is inconvenient when you are writing for the big laugh or the big cry. I try to just turn off the censor, and say "it is art." Van Gogh's sunflowers weren't all that life-like.
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Haha, you guys are funny, i forgot i started this thread the other day, I like what happened to it!
Plus paper was the most valuable thing in that movie and people were smoking cigarettes all the time.P.D.X. wrote:I think Waterworld had the biggest deus ex machina moments out of any other contemporary movie I can think of. A whole globe covered in water and somebody always suddenly appeared when a rescue was needed.
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Independence Day is still the champ at that for me. I mean, it was a blow-em-up aliens flick with Will Smith - I was ready to suspend some disbelief. But holy shit, I didn't have nearly enough suspension racks to hold all of the shit that movie asked me to ignore.sancarlos wrote:I can suspend critical thought in the name of an entertaining movie. But, then there are movies so irritatingly implausible and without entertainment merit that you want to throw a stuffed animal toy at the screen. Like, Face-Off.DC47 wrote:Pretty much every movie I see is riddled with highly implausible plot lines or characters who do absurd things. Reality is inconvenient when you are writing for the big laugh or the big cry. I try to just turn off the censor, and say "it is art." Van Gogh's sunflowers weren't all that life-like.
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Wait, you don't think that the computer systems of an alien race would just happen to be compatible with a Mac?Shirley wrote:Independence Day is still the champ at that for me. I mean, it was a blow-em-up aliens flick with Will Smith - I was ready to suspend some disbelief. But holy shit, I didn't have nearly enough suspension racks to hold all of the shit that movie asked me to ignore.
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That's going to take another 100 years here on planet earth. But it was probably low hanging fruit as the far more advanced civilization developed technologically. Still to come for them will be cell phones that work reliably in buildings.
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Johnny Carwash wrote:Wait, you don't think that the computer systems of an alien race would just happen to be compatible with a Mac?Shirley wrote:Independence Day is still the champ at that for me. I mean, it was a blow-em-up aliens flick with Will Smith - I was ready to suspend some disbelief. But holy shit, I didn't have nearly enough suspension racks to hold all of the shit that movie asked me to ignore.
Steve Jobs rules the Universe! I was just happy my friend worked at the theater and let us in for free. And we were already drunk and brought in a lot of cans of beer. Nothing like multiple cans opening throughout a movie. And a bottle that dropped loudly and audibly rolled down under the seats. Somehow we didn't get kicked out, and that was regrettable. That movie sucked so bad. People were laughing out loud at the ridiculouslessness.
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Doesn't it take place in the future after whatever species of ape this is took over as the alpha species on the planet?TheHumanComa wrote:This isn't a movie review thread, just a place to bring up obvious plot flaws in film that you notice. Be it time infractions, character miscues, plot holes, or a simple wardrobe malfunction.
Anyway, i started this thread because of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, just watched it for the second time. I Didn't question anything about it the first time I saw it in the theater because it was awesome. But on second viewing, I have one question... How do the apes know how to use the guns so well right away? It would be like Aliens coming to earth and accidentally handing us a gooey blob. A gooey blob that was a weapon! and then we just charged at them with gooey blobs and killed them all. Gooey blobs that they have been handling all their lives!
At least have an apes weapon training montage to make it more realistic! with some cheesy 80's music layered on top.
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You ever want to see really stupid - check out 10,000 BC by the same director. Took my then 12 year old son and he was laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. Cavemen hike up over what look like the Himalayas, come down the other side and are in Pharaonic Egypt.Shirley wrote:Independence Day is still the champ at that for me. I mean, it was a blow-em-up aliens flick with Will Smith - I was ready to suspend some disbelief. But holy shit, I didn't have nearly enough suspension racks to hold all of the shit that movie asked me to ignore.sancarlos wrote:I can suspend critical thought in the name of an entertaining movie. But, then there are movies so irritatingly implausible and without entertainment merit that you want to throw a stuffed animal toy at the screen. Like, Face-Off.DC47 wrote:Pretty much every movie I see is riddled with highly implausible plot lines or characters who do absurd things. Reality is inconvenient when you are writing for the big laugh or the big cry. I try to just turn off the censor, and say "it is art." Van Gogh's sunflowers weren't all that life-like.
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The biggest one for me was Mystic River. That took place current day which was like 10 years ago. The way that they came to arrest the murderer was because they found some blood in the trunk of his car and the forensic work involved was simply checking if the blood type of the blood in the trunk of the car matched the blood type of the murdered girl. It did...and they arrested the guy because of it! Blood type!! Ten years ago!!
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F me. Forgot about that one. Epically moronic.Pruitt wrote:You ever want to see really stupid - check out 10,000 BC by the same director. Took my then 12 year old son and he was laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. Cavemen hike up over what look like the Himalayas, come down the other side and are in Pharaonic Egypt.Shirley wrote:Independence Day is still the champ at that for me. I mean, it was a blow-em-up aliens flick with Will Smith - I was ready to suspend some disbelief. But holy shit, I didn't have nearly enough suspension racks to hold all of the shit that movie asked me to ignore.sancarlos wrote:I can suspend critical thought in the name of an entertaining movie. But, then there are movies so irritatingly implausible and without entertainment merit that you want to throw a stuffed animal toy at the screen. Like, Face-Off.DC47 wrote:Pretty much every movie I see is riddled with highly implausible plot lines or characters who do absurd things. Reality is inconvenient when you are writing for the big laugh or the big cry. I try to just turn off the censor, and say "it is art." Van Gogh's sunflowers weren't all that life-like.
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Star Wars should probably be excused from having any pretense of realism, but there are still a few things that stand out.
So, I was watching The Empire Strikes Back a couple days ago, and remembered something that had always bugged me. Early in the movie there's a scene where that one Imperial admiral keeps fucking up, so Vader starts a video call and immediately uses his force powers to make the guy choke to death. If Vader always had this power--being able to kill people with his mind from miles away--wouldn't that have been tremendously helpful in the war against the Rebels? Like, he could find out the Rebel leaders' phone numbers, start a transmission, and then just choke them all?
So, I was watching The Empire Strikes Back a couple days ago, and remembered something that had always bugged me. Early in the movie there's a scene where that one Imperial admiral keeps fucking up, so Vader starts a video call and immediately uses his force powers to make the guy choke to death. If Vader always had this power--being able to kill people with his mind from miles away--wouldn't that have been tremendously helpful in the war against the Rebels? Like, he could find out the Rebel leaders' phone numbers, start a transmission, and then just choke them all?
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You think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main?
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He'd probably have to spoof his caller ID to get them to pick up.Johnny Carwash wrote:Star Wars should probably be excused from having any pretense of realism, but there are still a few things that stand out.
So, I was watching The Empire Strikes Back a couple days ago, and remembered something that had always bugged me. Early in the movie there's a scene where that one Imperial admiral keeps fucking up, so Vader starts a video call and immediately uses his force powers to make the guy choke to death. If Vader always had this power--being able to kill people with his mind from miles away--wouldn't that have been tremendously helpful in the war against the Rebels? Like, he could find out the Rebel leaders' phone numbers, start a transmission, and then just choke them all?
Totally Kafkaesque