degenerasian wrote:yeah that's what they're saying and that's totally wrong.
I don't think that play can be a downed ball until a whistle blows. If there is no whistle the play must be allowed to continue.
Also everything looks slower in slo-mo replay (obviously). In real time that guy barely had the ball.
Are you guys talking about the punt? It should have been downed at the 2 if the guy didn't actually touch the ground in the EZ before hitting it back in. Is that the jobbing or did he have a foot down in the EZ?
I didn't see the whole play and just read about it. That is curious as hell.
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degenerasian wrote:I think you have to have possession and establish your feet in bounds. He was afraid of stepping on the goal line so he threw it back.
I don't know the actual rule so perhaps.
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If the rule was interpreted correctly, then why would a player ever toss the ball before going into the endzone? I would think they would play it like a receiver on a sidelines play -- just get possession and two feet down before you run into the endzone.
The other interesting special teams call was when the Colts muffed the kickoff, the ball stopped on the 1 yard line, and as they tried to recover it, it was accidentally kicked into the endzone. They called it a touchback, and that's when I learned NBC doesn't employ a rule expert, but they somehow manage to afford Mike Florio.
EdRomero wrote:If the rule was interpreted correctly, then why would a player ever toss the ball before going into the endzone? I would think they would play it like a receiver on a sidelines play -- just get possession and two feet down before you run into the endzone.
The end zone is treated differently in some other situations. Maybe it is here, too.
EdRomero wrote:If the rule was interpreted correctly, then why would a player ever toss the ball before going into the endzone? I would think they would play it like a receiver on a sidelines play -- just get possession and two feet down before you run into the endzone.
I agree. If I'm coaching, I'm going to practice punts this week getting the guys to just catch the ball with both hands then throw it back before falling into the endzone.
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EdRomero wrote:How is enjoying the defeat of your team's main rival over the last 15 years, who also happens to be the face of the NFL, bizarre and unhealthy?
The Broncos are the Pats main rival over the last 15 years?
I meant Manning
I know. That's where the unhealthy obsession with him lies. No other fanbase would ever refer to one player as their team's main rival.
can you suggest an alternative to make my fan base healthier?
Nobody really sticks out because that division has been so awful. Without looking anything up, the Broncos may have had the most success against them I believe, but I think you have to go with Colts, then you can throw in Broncos, Rats, Giants, Steelers.
Without Manning, Dungee, & Polian there, there's just not a high enough level of hatred for me.
Not sure if this is unique to Boston fans, but there have been so many "our player is better than your's" rivalries here-- Williams/Dimagio, Fisk/Munson, Russell/Chamberlin, Orr/Gretzky even though they didn't play at the same time, Magic/Bird, Nomar/Jeter, and now Manning/Brady. I think the Manning rivalry got magnified because of the commercials, the accolades he got over Brady early in their careers, and the perception that rule changes were made to help him (followed by some questionable officiating in AFC Championship games against the Steelers and then the Pats the following year). Then there's the media. Nationally, every accomplishment or supposed accomplishment by a marquee player is over-hyped on 24 hour sport stations and countless popular websites, which results in negative backlash. And now there's social media that allows that negative backlash and every insulting joke to spread much further and quicker. And locally, the most popular radio show and writers in Boston are basically trolls that get attention by dumping on the Patriots, so that's followed by more reactionary backlash, which usually means a joke about Peyton Manning's forehead.
degenerasian wrote:I think you have to have possession and establish your feet in bounds. He was afraid of stepping on the goal line so he threw it back.
I don't know the actual rule so perhaps.
Did the guy touch the goal line before touching the ball. Hard to tell from the gif, but it doesn't look like it to me. I've always seen it called a touchback when the kicking team catches the ball outside the endzone, then falls in. I don't know how long you have to have possession before the ball is considered down, but that didn't look long enough to me. I would have given the Lions the ball wherever the return guy was tackled.
There is also a crazy rule that when a kicking team player touches the ball without downing it, the returner has a free play, where the result can't be worse than spotting the ball where the returned picked it up. If there is a fumble, the receiving team gets the ball at the spot the returner picked up the ball. I never understood that rule, other than encouraging the excitement of a player swooping in and taking the ball. Just seems weird.
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Ryan wrote:I bet if Derek Jeter got a serious injury (that mysteriously never came up again (not mysterious - it was faked)) and jumped to the Tigers in a desperate attempt to win a ring against a team that didn't have Rex Grossman, I bet I'd consider Derek Jeter our biggest rival.
I don't get out much, but I really had never previously heard this theory that Peyton faked it.
So Le'Veon Bell...kind of a beast. That was damn impressive.
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Jerloma wrote:So Le'Veon Bell...kind of a beast. That was damn impressive.
With only one touchdown? C'mon.
Even the TD was absurd! Jonas Gray would have -3 TDs in that game!
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EdRomero wrote:Not sure if this is unique to Boston fans, but there have been so many "our player is better than your's" rivalries here-- Williams/Dimagio, Fisk/Munson, Russell/Chamberlin, Orr/Gretzky even though they didn't play at the same time, Magic/Bird, Nomar/Jeter, and now Manning/Brady. I think the Manning rivalry got magnified because of the commercials, the accolades he got over Brady early in their careers, and the perception that rule changes were made to help him (followed by some questionable officiating in AFC Championship games against the Steelers and then the Pats the following year). Then there's the media. Nationally, every accomplishment or supposed accomplishment by a marquee player is over-hyped on 24 hour sport stations and countless popular websites, which results in negative backlash. And now there's social media that allows that negative backlash and every insulting joke to spread much further and quicker. And locally, the most popular radio show and writers in Boston are basically trolls that get attention by dumping on the Patriots, so that's followed by more reactionary backlash, which usually means a joke about Peyton Manning's forehead.
I remember that initially, the Pats fans hatred for Manning was all about the fact that he accumulated a lot of stats (as if throwing a bunch of TDs doesn't help your team win football games) and Brady didn't but they won championships, so he was sort of seen as the anti-Brady and they believed that they were bastions of character bred specifically to win Super Bowls. However for the last decade, that is to say the majority of his career, Brady is a guy that has accumulated a ton of stats while not winning any Super Bowls. So, he's been Peyton Manning -1 Super Bowl. I mean, how does nobody see the fucking double standard?
And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness. - God
Ryan wrote:I bet if Derek Jeter got a serious injury (that mysteriously never came up again (not mysterious - it was faked)) and jumped to the Tigers in a desperate attempt to win a ring against a team that didn't have Rex Grossman, I bet I'd consider Derek Jeter our biggest rival.
I don't get out much, but I really had never previously heard this theory that Peyton faked it.
Sounds reasonable. Fake a herniated disk in your neck, have 3 surgical procedures to cover it up. Get a disk removed and vertebrae in your neck fused, take 15 months off, and voila, you get to play in Denver! Going from throwing in a cozy dome, to playing in the wintry conditions on top of a mountain. Peyton totally seems like he would take a year off, too.
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LeGarrette Blount left the game early last night because he wasn't getting any carries. Is this why he's on his 4th team in 5 years?
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EdRomero wrote:If the rule was interpreted correctly, then why would a player ever toss the ball before going into the endzone? I would think they would play it like a receiver on a sidelines play -- just get possession and two feet down before you run into the endzone.
The other interesting special teams call was when the Colts muffed the kickoff, the ball stopped on the 1 yard line, and as they tried to recover it, it was accidentally kicked into the endzone. They called it a touchback, and that's when I learned NBC doesn't employ a rule expert, but they somehow manage to afford Mike Florio.
Pretty sure if possession isn't established, then it's a touchback.
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The Sybian wrote: playing in the wintry conditions on top of a mountain.
You haven't spent much time in Denver have you? The average temp in Nov-Jan is almost 50.
Average high or true average?
Average high. The front range gets over 300 days of sunshine. All the crap falls on the 14ers to our west. It snows, gets cold, etc. (see earlier this week) but typically that snow is gone and it's sunny and in the forties (or warmer) soon enough. For example, I went to the Broncos/Pats game here in late December 2012. It was in the 60s.
That snow is here and then gone. It's not like the midwest and northeast where it snows and is around all winter. The most snow I've seen on the ground here is a little over a foot and that was gone within a week.
I worry about Ryan when he's in his twilight years, sitting on his porch and thinking back. He's going to wish he hadn't spent an entire lifetime saying nothing. Talk to any dying person and ask them what they'd change. It's always that they wish'd they cared more about things. I mean sure, he'll probably live to 96 because of this but eventually he'll turn into nothing but a cauldron of self-loathing and regret.
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My bad, didn't pay attention to who posted the comment. I was thinking it was Rush, due to his overblown Bronco/Manning hatred. I still hold some overblown Bills hatred from living in Buffalo 16 years ago. My Pats hatred from living in Boston is perfectly reasonable.
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My bad, didn't pay attention to who posted the comment. I was thinking it was Rush, due to his overblown Bronco/Manning hatred. I still hold some overblown Bills hatred from living in Buffalo 16 years ago.
That's like hating the homeless. Shame on you.
"beautiful, with an exotic-yet-familiar facial structure and an arresting gaze."
So I'm sitting in an Italian restaurant in Old Town Scottsdale Saturday night with some friends and we see this super hot woman walk in and talk to the host and she ends up taking a seat by the door and it becomes obvious after awhile that she's waiting for someone. This woman is like a 9.98 out of 10 (skinny Latina, long black hair, big (fake) boobs, but not ridiculously big, super short skirt, etc., etc.) and after a few minutes, I thinking -- who in the world is making this chick wait and then sure enough a few minutes later who walks in to meet her and gets directed to a booth in the very back of the restaurant...
Andre Ellington.
No I'm just kidding, it's Ronde Barber. I don't know if he's married or not, but if he is I don't think this woman is his wife.
And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness. - God
