NHL Playoffs RD 1 - Western Conference

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Fri May 03, 2013 11:35 pm

sancarlos wrote:I was watching NHL Network, seeing Vancouver coach Alain Vignault whining that the reason the Sharks were dominating the face offs was because they were cheating. I loved Joe Thornton's amused response that "Ryan Kesler and the Sedins are the best face off cheaters in the league."

Irony that the coach of noted divers and late-hitting punks Burrows, LaPierre and Kesler complains about"cheating".

The Canucks were not always a culture of pussified, diving, whining, sissy, cheap-shot assholes. Nope. Not at all. They used to be a joy to watch; one of the tightest teams in the NHL, despite the school bus uniforms. All of that bullshit started when they got those fucking Sedin sisters. All of it. All the pathetic crybaby antics, certainly all the embarrassing disgusting diving, all the cheap shot behind-the-back cowardly garbage that the Canucks are known for now, all of that comes from those two fucking asshole little bitches.

That sort of sickening crap did not happen under a guy like Trevor Linden. No way. Never could have. But under those two little pussies? It defines the way that team now plays.

I do seriously look forward to when the league is rid of those two idiots. And then, after a couple of seasons in which to undo all of the damage they have done to the Vancouver team, I can get back to watching Canucks games again.

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Fri May 03, 2013 11:59 pm

Marleau scores with under a minute to tie.

OT now. Way better on a Friday night than a Wednesday

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat May 04, 2013 12:01 am

Scottie wrote:
sancarlos wrote:I was watching NHL Network, seeing Vancouver coach Alain Vignault whining that the reason the Sharks were dominating the face offs was because they were cheating. I loved Joe Thornton's amused response that "Ryan Kesler and the Sedins are the best face off cheaters in the league."

Irony that the coach of noted divers and late-hitting punks Burrows, LaPierre and Kesler complains about"cheating".
The Canucks were not always a culture of pussified, diving, whining, sissy, cheap-shot assholes. Nope. Not at all. They used to be a joy to watch; one of the tightest teams in the NHL, despite the school bus uniforms. All of that bullshit started when they got those fucking Sedin sisters. All of it. All the pathetic crybaby antics, certainly all the embarrassing disgusting diving, all the cheap shot behind-the-back cowardly garbage that the Canucks are known for now, all of that comes from those two fucking asshole little bitches.

That sort of sickening crap did not happen under a guy like Trevor Linden. No way. Never could have. But under those two little pussies? It defines the way that team now plays.

I do seriously look forward to when the league is rid of those two idiots. And then, after a couple of seasons in which to undo all of the damage they have done to the Vancouver team, I can get back to watching Canucks games again.

agreed. And what's happened to their fans? Absolutely obnoxious to the point that I give my tickets away when they come to town.

That 94 Canucks team was a joy to watch and this coming from a fan of a team they knocked out in the first round that year on 2OT. (The goal was offside)

Scottie is bang on, that team was tight, from guys like Harold Snepes to Cliff Ronning to Geoff Courtnall.

travzilla · Post by **travzilla** » Sat May 04, 2013 12:08 am

Raffi Torres finishes a perfect 2on1. Sharks up 2-0 heading home.

I think Luongo steals game 3.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat May 04, 2013 12:08 am

And, as if to emphasize the point... Sharks win!

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Sat May 04, 2013 12:11 am

Ugh. Hate Vancouver. Hate Torres. No one wins.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat May 04, 2013 12:12 am

travzilla wrote:Raffi Torres finishes a perfect 2on1. Sharks up 2-0 heading home.

I think Luongo steals game 3.

If they play him. i think Schneider for Game 3.

Team1040 should be a gong show tonight!

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Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sun May 05, 2013 6:01 pm

Overtime giveth, and overtime taketh away.

Bensell · Post by **Bensell** » Sun May 05, 2013 11:07 pm

This may be getting out of hand of the Canucks

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:05 am

Bensell wrote:This may be getting out of hand of the Canucks

You know they are losing composure when the Sedins, of all players, start throwing cheap shots.

Really pleased with how the Sharks are playing. I suspected that the Canucks were a favorable matchup, as San Jose does better against skating teams like Vancouver or Detroit, than against bruisers like say, St. Louis or Anaheim.

Post by **brian** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:10 am

sancarlos wrote:
Bensell wrote:This may be getting out of hand of the Canucks
You know they are losing composure when the Sedins, of all players, start throwing cheap shots.

Really pleased with how the Sharks are playing. I suspected that the Canucks were a favorable matchup, as San Jose does better against skating teams like Vancouver or Detroit, than against bruisers like say, St. Louis or Anaheim.

Hows about Chicago? Looks like that's their next matchup.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:31 am

sancarlos wrote:You know they are losing composure when the Sedins, of all players, start throwing cheap shots.

You don't see many Canucks games? Because the Sedins are easily among the dirtiest players in the league when it comes to cowardly cheap shots.

SportsDoc · Post by **SportsDoc** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:49 am

Chicago has looked very average in this series, by the way. They don't look like Stanley Cup Finalists to me right now.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:52 am

brian wrote:
sancarlos wrote:
Bensell wrote:This may be getting out of hand of the Canucks
You know they are losing composure when the Sedins, of all players, start throwing cheap shots.

Really pleased with how the Sharks are playing. I suspected that the Canucks were a favorable matchup, as San Jose does better against skating teams like Vancouver or Detroit, than against bruisers like say, St. Louis or Anaheim.
Hows about Chicago? Looks like that's their next matchup.

Yeah, I thought about that. Chicago may be the right kind of matchup, but the Blackhawks' level of elite talent is awfully good. San Jose played their regular season games against Chicago early in the season and couldn't hang with them. Still, you never know!

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:59 pm

The next time my daughter gets under my skin, I'm going to try to remember that she timed tonight's bathroom break during quiet time to the Red Wings getting the OT winner. Both wins for Detroit have come in OT and the goal scorer in each has been a rookie.

SportsDoc · Post by **SportsDoc** » Tue May 07, 2013 8:27 am

Canucks D-man Kevin Bieksa accuses Sharks of embellishment ... pauses for laughter to subside ...

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue May 07, 2013 8:43 am

SportsDoc wrote:Canucks D-man Kevin Bieksa accuses Sharks of embellishment ... pauses for laughter to subside ...

Yeah, jeez, pot meet kettle...

eta: but, true or not, I can see why he'd try to influence the refs there - the games are being won by the Sharks' power play scoring.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Tue May 07, 2013 5:30 pm

Read into this what you will but . . . Roberto Luongo just listed his home (a $4.2 Million penthouse) for sale today. Check out the photo gallery and accompanying video; the digs are sweet.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue May 07, 2013 9:05 pm

Fucking Carcillo.

Finally makes it onto the ice for the first time in the series ... takes a stupid penalty in less than a minute.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Wed May 08, 2013 12:13 am

Buh-bye, girls!

Fuck I hate that team.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed May 08, 2013 12:14 am

SWEEP!

Glad to see it, too. A sweep is big, because now the Sharks have a few days to rest and let bumps and bruises heal.

Poetic justice that tying goal in 3rd period came with Kevin Bieksa in the box for a bonehead penalty.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Wed May 08, 2013 12:35 am

1-10 in their last 11 playoff games. The Canucks are the perfect schadenfreude.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:26 am

One thing that bodes well for the Sharks . . .

2009-10 Chicago defeats Vancouver (Conference Semi-Finals), wins Cup.
2010-11 Boston defeats Vancouver (Stanley Cup Finals), wins Cup.
2011-12 Los Angeles defeats Vancouver (Conference Quarter-Finals), wins Cup.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 08, 2013 6:20 am

Scottie wrote:One thing that bodes well for the Sharks . . .

2009-10 Chicago defeats Vancouver (Conference Semi-Finals), wins Cup.
2010-11 Boston defeats Vancouver (Stanley Cup Finals), wins Cup.
2011-12 Los Angeles defeats Vancouver (Conference Quarter-Finals), wins Cup.

That bodes well for my Travzilla playoff pool too. Remind me again why we didn't bet millions on that.

SportsDoc · Post by **SportsDoc** » Wed May 08, 2013 9:03 am

Scottie wrote:1-10 in their last 11 playoff games. The Canucks are the perfect schadenfreude.

Coach and GM both gone?

What do they do with the dual goaltender issue? Do they just release Luongo in July?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed May 08, 2013 9:51 am

SportsDoc wrote:
Scottie wrote:1-10 in their last 11 playoff games. The Canucks are the perfect schadenfreude.
Coach and GM both gone?

What do they do with the dual goaltender issue? Do they just release Luongo in July?

Well, per Scottie's recent post, Luongo doesn't appear to believe his future is in Vancouver. The GM held out for too much in return for Luongo in trade, and overplayed his hand, leading to a distraction all season and even in the playoffs. He should have been content for a modest trade return that would have allowed him to dump the contract. And, one of Vancouver's hallmarks all season was offensive help from the defensemen, but they were invisible on offense until the fourth game. Both the coach and GM deserve to go, imho.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Wed May 08, 2013 11:51 am

sancarlos wrote:Both the coach and GM deserve to go, imho.

Alain Vigneault has to go. No question about that; he's a terrible coach. As infuriating as he is for his incessant whining, he does some of the dumbest things I have ever seen a coach do. Just look at last night's game; he played his standard line-up for pretty much the entire game and then, in overtime, decides to start juggling his lines. Really, what the hell is that? Remember that 2-on-1 break where Marleau almost scored? About 8-minutes into OT? That was because four Canucks went to the bench at the same time to change; they didn't know who was supposed to be on the ice. In overtime. In the playoffs. Vigneault does NOT know how to coach a playoff game. A Bettman game, sure. But in the playoffs? Useless. Five straight division titles and four spectacular flame-outs in the playoffs and a blown 3-2 games lead in a Stanley Cup finals.

Plus Vigneault has grown that culture of cowardice. Instead of addressing the diving and sissy tactics, he encourages it.

Mike Gillis might be a little bit safer but they really ought to consider getting rid of him, too. The goaltending situation has been an ongoing debacle for a year now (sancarlos sums it up poignantly) and it still is not resolved. Gillis also appears to be far more concerned with getting the Vancouver farm team moved to Abbotsford, BC. The farm team ended up in Peoria and that was another year of wasted and misdirected time.

SportsDoc · Post by **SportsDoc** » Thu May 09, 2013 8:11 am

First weak goal of Series let in by Elliot happens in OT of Game 5 at home. Sheesh, Boo-Boo, talk about bad timing.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu May 09, 2013 9:57 pm

The goals are coming in fast and furious in Chicago.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri May 10, 2013 11:56 am

Steve of phpBB wrote:The goals are coming in fast and furious in Chicago.

I don't know if it was just my perception or not, but Minnesota flat quit. Thought they would come out with some fire, and they did. Crow stonewalled them for 10 straight minutes. Chicago gets a goal and suddenly, the wind comes out of their sails. No fight. Then they get on the board later to make it 3-1 and you think just maybe they could make a run. A minute later Shaw scores on a TERRIBLE bounce for MIN. Bad shot off the endboards bounces a perfect 45 degrees to the waiting stick of Shaw. That was the Bane moment. Chicago took them and snapped their back in half. Again, no fight.

Chicago only looked stronger as the series went. Someone back in the thread said they didn't look like a SC Finalist. I'd argue they do. It is going to be a VERY interesting series if they match up against the Sharks. Chicago can be physical, but it is not their game. Seems to be all SJS does. The West is so damn strong this year!

5 bucks says DET forces game 7 tonight.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Mon May 13, 2013 12:05 am

If you are not happy, nay relieved, that the Original Six franchise Detroit Red Wings eliminated the Anaheim Mighty Fucking Ducks, I suggest you get yourself a small hand-mirror and check to see if you can see your reflection in it, or maybe evidence of your breath, for perhaps you may be of the undead.

Okay, I embellish. That was a tremendous series. Championship-level, dynasty-level, teams just do not ever give up that easy. Damn, Detroit had balls the size of pucks.

This sets up two brilliant confrontations. Chicago/Detroit and Sharks/Kings. Lucky us, eh? All-California in one, and two jerseys that belong on the ice together.

The down side? Yeah, there is a down side. That might be the last we see of Teemu Selanne. And that's a shame because he is unquestionably one of the best that's ever stepped skate out there.

(I'm trying to score tix to the Kings/Sharks' games in SJ; doubt I'll have much luck. But I'm trying. Side note: the A's are at home during that stretch. Screw the responsibilities of life.)

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Mon May 13, 2013 12:18 am

2008-09, by the way, is the last time that Chicago and Detroit met in the playoffs (Western Conference Final).
Sharks/Kings in 2010-11 (Western Conference Quarter-Finals).

Post by **brian** » Mon May 13, 2013 1:20 am

Red Wings now have the most Game 7 wins in NHL history (14). Canadiens have 13, Bruins and Maple Leafs have 12 (with one of them moving to 13 tomorrow obviously).

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon May 13, 2013 7:02 am

sancarlos wrote:First round, I'll go with Blackhawks, Red Wings, Sharks, Kings.

Fo' fo' fo'.

C'mon, now, Sharks!

Scottie, I have tickets for game three, Sharks v. Kings. I'd like to help you out, but my daughter would kill me if she didn't get the ticket.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon May 13, 2013 8:16 am

I kind of wanted the Ducks to win because the Ducks and Kings have never met in the playoffs before and it would have been cool to see that rivalry.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon May 13, 2013 9:04 am

I fell asleep before it was over, but that Ducks/Wings first period was played at warp speed. Did they keep the intensity up for the whole game?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon May 13, 2013 9:41 am

govmentchedda wrote:I fell asleep before it was over, but that Ducks/Wings first period was played at warp speed. Did they keep the intensity up for the whole game?

They did until the Wings got their 3rd goal, then they shut it down and the Ducks really struggled to maintain any possession in the offensive zone.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon May 13, 2013 9:56 am

Fuck. Detroit is the last team I wanted to see the Hawks meet in the playoffs.

Oh well, I guess it's like when the Bulls were ascending. It didn't really count until they finally knocked off the Pistons.

Post by **brian** » Mon May 13, 2013 10:05 am

Except this isn't the Wings teams of old, no pun intended. They've got some really young players this trip around. They were lucky to make the playoffs at all and played over their heads in the Anaheim series.

They didn't win a game from Chicago all season. Short of some massive goaltending meltdown, I don't see the Wings winning more than 1 game in the series. Maybe 2 tops.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon May 13, 2013 1:59 pm

brian wrote:Except this isn't the Wings teams of old, no pun intended. They've got some really young players this trip around. They were lucky to make the playoffs at all and played over their heads in the Anaheim series.

They didn't win a game from Chicago all season. Short of some massive goaltending meltdown, I don't see the Wings winning more than 1 game in the series. Maybe 2 tops.

One of the local papers was spinning the Blackhawks' season sweep as not being so bad, as three of the four games were not decided in regulation, including a pair going to Chicago in shootouts. Of course, they have newspapers and not reverse jinxes to sell.

I'm just happy the Wings pulled it out, especially since I thought they were dead until they won their final four games of the regular season to get into the postseason. Now, the last season these two teams are in the same conference, they meet in the playoffs. Good times.