NFL Week 1

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:26 am

defensive holding, right?

(I'm sure that's what you mean, but just asking for clarity's sake)

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:28 am

Brontoburglar wrote:defensive holding, right?

(I'm sure that's what you mean, but just asking for clarity's sake)

Yes, but hell, call it offsides or whatever. Any defensive penalty on the PAT. It just sounded like to me that if they took that penalty on the...is it the 15 they kick from?...that they can choose to enforce it like they lined up at the 2.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:33 am

BSF21 wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:defensive holding, right?

(I'm sure that's what you mean, but just asking for clarity's sake)
Yes, but hell, call it offsides or whatever. Any defensive penalty on the PAT. It just sounded like to me that if they took that penalty on the...is it the 15 they kick from?...that they can choose to enforce it like they lined up at the 2.

This article doesn't address specifics, but it seems that way: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... 015-season" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:38 am

Brontoburglar wrote:
BSF21 wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:defensive holding, right?

(I'm sure that's what you mean, but just asking for clarity's sake)
Yes, but hell, call it offsides or whatever. Any defensive penalty on the PAT. It just sounded like to me that if they took that penalty on the...is it the 15 they kick from?...that they can choose to enforce it like they lined up at the 2.
This article doesn't address specifics, but it seems that way: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... 015-season" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

article wrote:For instance, if a team chooses to go for two points and is called for an offensive penalty, they could then decide to kick a 1-point try.

The defensive thing makes more sense than the above from the article. If you are called for an offensive penalty on a failed 2 point, why would the defense not just decline? (I suppose with the exception of a false start/deadball?)

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:57 am

BSF21 wrote:Was I correct in hearing what I thought last night?

Team A kicks PAT, PAT is good, Holding on the play.

Team A could elect to:
-Decline, PAT is good
-Accept, rekick PAT from 5 yards closer
-Accept, choose to go for 2 and enforce the penalty from that spot, giving them the ball on the 1 yard line for 2pt conversion?

That last one seems wacky but I swear I heard Al Michaels say it.

Rekicking the PAT makes no sense, but I could see going for 2 with half the distance to cover. I guess.

Post by **brian** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:16 am

The Sybian wrote:
BSF21 wrote:Was I correct in hearing what I thought last night?

Team A kicks PAT, PAT is good, Holding on the play.

Team A could elect to:
-Decline, PAT is good
-Accept, rekick PAT from 5 yards closer
-Accept, choose to go for 2 and enforce the penalty from that spot, giving them the ball on the 1 yard line for 2pt conversion?

That last one seems wacky but I swear I heard Al Michaels say it.
Rekicking the PAT makes no sense, but I could see going for 2 with half the distance to cover. I guess.

Technically you probably could have done the same thing in the past and the PAT would be moved from the 2 to the 1, but of course that's stupid. Just as you noted above, it would be stupid to accept the penalty and re-kick regardless of where the PAT line is.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:36 am

brian wrote:
The Sybian wrote:
BSF21 wrote:Was I correct in hearing what I thought last night?

Team A kicks PAT, PAT is good, Holding on the play.

Team A could elect to:
-Decline, PAT is good
-Accept, rekick PAT from 5 yards closer
-Accept, choose to go for 2 and enforce the penalty from that spot, giving them the ball on the 1 yard line for 2pt conversion?

That last one seems wacky but I swear I heard Al Michaels say it.
Rekicking the PAT makes no sense, but I could see going for 2 with half the distance to cover. I guess.
Technically you probably could have done the same thing in the past and the PAT would be moved from the 2 to the 1, but of course that's stupid. Just as you noted above, it would be stupid to accept the penalty and re-kick regardless of where the PAT line is.

I think that goes without saying. The issue I have is that you can apparently change midsteam and the field position is changed. In the old days the ball was spotted at the 2 so I have no issue with changing it up if you end up on the one. But now you're changing a 1 yard penalty into a 14 yard penalty. Since the spots have changed, I think they ought to have to pick one and stick with it.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:33 pm

It's just like the good old days when the Raiders didn't care about a guy's background, as long as they'd help the team win. Warren Wells, John Matuszak... Aldon Smith!

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:37 pm

sancarlos wrote:It's just like the good old days when the Raiders didn't care about a guy's background, as long as they'd help the team win. Warren Wells, John Matuszak... Aldon Smith!

They should use the Brady ruling to appeal his surely upcoming suspension on the grounds that the league's player policies don't specifically say that you can get suspended for making terroristic threats in an airport or destroying your teammate's car.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:52 pm

The amount of hubris on my Facebook page is off the charts, today. I'd be fucking embarrassed if my team ever won on opening night like that. You won because of two missed field goals, a bonehead play by DHB in the end zone, an absolute bullshit PI call right out of the Ravens playbook, a lucky bounce off of a fumble, and Tomlin having to listen to Scott Zolak screaming in his ear half the night. That's what the fucking Super Bowl champs need on opening night. You're shit organization with shit players, shit coaches, shit owners, and most of all, shit fans. I hope you all get AIDS and fucking die.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:08 pm

Jerloma wrote:The amount of hubris on my Facebook page is off the charts, today. I'd be fucking embarrassed if my team ever won on opening night like that. You won because of two missed field goals, a bonehead play by DHB in the end zone, an absolute bullshit PI call right out of the Ravens playbook, a lucky bounce off of a fumble, and Tomlin having to listen to Scott Zolak screaming in his ear half the night. That's what the fucking Super Bowl champs need on opening night. You're shit organization with shit players, shit coaches, shit owners, and most of all, shit fans. I hope you all get AIDS and fucking die.

That was a quality rant.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:12 pm

I believe the Patriots won because they scored more points than the Steelers, but I'll defer to you all.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:14 pm

For fucks sake could you guys keep the assgrabbing contained to 2 or 3 threads?

Fucking A it's tiresome at this point. You guys are making this place hard to be around. Start yourselves an official Pats bitching/homerism thread and fuck off out of the rest of it.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:41 pm

This tweet from PFTCommenter cracked me up:

@PFTCommenter: If you committ enough misdemeanors the raiders will give u a Kobe contract to reward you at the end of your career

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:13 pm

BSF21 wrote:For fucks sake could you guys keep the assgrabbing contained to 2 or 3 threads?

Fucking A it's tiresome at this point. You guys are making this place hard to be around. Start yourselves an official Pats bitching/homerism thread and fuck off out of the rest of it.

Oh, fuck the fuck off.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:14 pm

Jerloma wrote:
BSF21 wrote:For fucks sake could you guys keep the assgrabbing contained to 2 or 3 threads?

Fucking A it's tiresome at this point. You guys are making this place hard to be around. Start yourselves an official Pats bitching/homerism thread and fuck off out of the rest of it.
Oh, fuck the fuck off.

Fucking left then fucking right and then taking the fuckway straight out of town.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:17 pm

Can confirm Chiefs fans travel well.

Oh, and fuck.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:56 pm

Fucking Bills go into the fucking season with a fucking shit show at QB.

Just hit me how brutal this season may be.

Fucking Ralph Wilson.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:58 pm

I fucking don't really fucking care any fucking more aside from fucking fucking with Rush but fucking wanted to fucking join in.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:04 pm

Bills QB situation may prove to be just fine. Rex wont go crazy and start flinging it around.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:07 pm

HaulCitgo wrote:Bills QB situation may prove to be just fine. Rex wont go crazy and start flinging it around.

They are going to have to win a lot of 13-10 games this year.

cerrano · Post by **cerrano** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:50 pm

Jerloma wrote:The amount of hubris on my Facebook page is off the charts, today. I'd be fucking embarrassed if my team ever won on opening night like that. You won because of two missed field goals, a bonehead play by DHB in the end zone, an absolute bullshit PI call right out of the Ravens playbook, a lucky bounce off of a fumble, and Tomlin having to listen to Scott Zolak screaming in his ear half the night. That's what the fucking Super Bowl champs need on opening night. You're shit organization with shit players, shit coaches, shit owners, and most of all, shit fans. I hope you all get AIDS and fucking die.

who's starting the gofundme for jerloma's new tv?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:22 pm

This Broncos fan is pretty funny. Here he is with a fucking recap of the fucking Thursday night game.

Post by **brian** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:52 am

Happy welcome back to football, y'all. This is finally the year.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:33 am

Not gonna lie, my increasing NFL ambivalence feels freeing. I'll have the games on all day but I don't feel I have to be glued to them. I can do stuff around the house, yard, etc.

I like this (and think CFB is fueling it after my 15-hour days).

Post by **Shirley** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:59 am

brian wrote:Happy welcome back to football, y'all. This is finally the year.

I caught about 5% of the lyrics. It was something about Detroit and two penises?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:42 pm

why is the NFL logo mustard colored?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:42 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:Not gonna lie, my increasing NFL ambivalence feels freeing. I'll have the games on all day but I don't feel I have to be glued to them. I can do stuff around the house, yard, etc.

Welcome. It's really nice.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:45 pm

Johnny foosball!

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:47 pm

Rex wrote:why is the NFL logo mustard colored?

It's golden mustard

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:47 pm

mister d wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:Not gonna lie, my increasing NFL ambivalence feels freeing. I'll have the games on all day but I don't feel I have to be glued to them. I can do stuff around the house, yard, etc.
Welcome. It's really nice.

I'm only an hour in but so far it's really fun.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:52 pm

A_B wrote:Johnny foosball!

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:02 pm

JJ Watt doesn't need a fucking helmet to play some fucking football.

Post by **Shirley** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:14 pm

Has there ever been anyone, anywhere who thought the Coneheads were funny? How the fuck are they in a commercial in 2015?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:33 pm

I suggested the same thing a few weeks ago and people got mad at me. I think it might have even been right here on theswamp.com

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:38 pm

So I assume there are some nerdpieces out there about when it's better to go for 2 under the new PAT rules?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:05 pm

And Pruitt was worried about Bills QB

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:21 pm

Pete Carroll has outdone himself. Onside kick in overtime.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:19 pm

degenerasian wrote:Pete Carroll has outdone himself. Onside kick in overtime.

I love that it backfired on his smug face.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:21 pm

Some good games. I for one am still excited for the opening weekend.

Beats the hell out of watching left turns.