The Swamp

devilfluff wrote:

Giff wrote:

devilfluff wrote:Shit.

I, too, like the Texans' pick.

That was the hope deflating out of me after a extreme reach pick...

I like the Texans pick, though.

And that was me making fun of our new WR smearing feces all over his hotel room at the Combine.

Giff wrote:And that was me making fun of our new WR smearing feces all over his hotel room at the Combine.

He still denies it, and blames Mark Harrison...

Four Raiders #1 picks in the last ten years and the guy who went next...

2010: Rolando McLain (CJ Spiller)
2007: Jamarcus Russell (Calvin Johnson)
2005: Fabian Washington (Aaron Rodgers)
2004: Robert Gallery (Larry Fitzgerald)

Jerloma wrote:Four Raiders #1 picks in the last ten years and the guy who went next...

2010: Rolando McLain (CJ Spiller)
2007: Jamarcus Russell (Calvin Johnson)
2005: Fabian Washington (Aaron Rodgers)
2004: Robert Gallery (Larry Fitzgerald)

That could have been a solid core... Wasn't Jamarcus trying to make a comeback this year? I'm not ready to call him a bust. I saw some pictures of him recently, and at 315 pounds, he looked primed to light it up.

Yep, I watched a 12 minute puff piece on him last night. He's been working out with Jeff Garcia and trying to get his shit back together. They showed some video of him with his shirt off and he hardly looked like an NFL QB. In fact, he looked like he was barely fit enough to be an offensive lineman.

I do not have to sit here and take this. My baseball team won.

geno smith is getting unfavorably compared to marcus vick on the radio down here.

Wait, that sounds like a good thing.

Oh, Jets. You're so awesome. The Lions front office sucks...but it could be worse.

I love the Ravens' Matt Elam and the Arthur Brown picks.

rass wrote:

Johnnie wrote:Matt Taibbi does his NFL Draft Decoded article.

Man, I hope the Jets end up with both Mark Sanchez and Black Mark Sanchez.

Fairy tales can come true
It can happen to you...

Where's the Icepenis signal?

GARY BARBARO.

Seriously thought he was going to say "Leon Sandcastle." So, close.

...And Phoenix's weed dealers rejoice.

brian wrote:Oh, Jets. You're so awesome. The Lions front office sucks...but it could be worse.

Is Geno Smith that bad? Especially as a second round pick when so many supposed experts have him going in the first. Hell, looking at NFL.com's mock drafts. Mayock has him going at #6! I only saw highlights of him in the one game he threw for 7 or 8 TDs and 600 or 700 yards, so I think the guy is incredible. Other than that, I don't know shit about him, but if he fell to the second round and the Jets took him, he must suck. If he can challenge Sanchez, great. If he can get Tebow off the field in Wildcat plays, even better.

I, for one, am completely sick of ESPN shoehorning Matt Barkley into everything. He sucks. Move on. When he gets picked, he gets picked. Deal with it then.

The Sybian wrote:

brian wrote:Oh, Jets. You're so awesome. The Lions front office sucks...but it could be worse.

Is Geno Smith that bad? Especially as a second round pick when so many supposed experts have him going in the first. Hell, looking at NFL.com's mock drafts. Mayock has him going at #6! I only saw highlights of him in the one game he threw for 7 or 8 TDs and 600 or 700 yards, so I think the guy is incredible. Other than that, I don't know shit about him, but if he fell to the second round and the Jets took him, he must suck. If he can challenge Sanchez, great. If he can get Tebow off the field in Wildcat plays, even better.

The reason I give to not draft Geno Smith is he went 0-3 against Syracuse and got smacked around in each game (a defensive struggle and a pair of routs where he padded his stats after things were mostly out of hand).

On a more serious note, he rolled up huge numbers against terrible teams and looked mediocre against good teams. He also was in a pass-heavy spread offense with two WRs who went in the first three rounds of this draft.

I hate the Cowboys draft. So hard.

On a more positive note, I wasn't expecting Duron Harmon's name to be called nearly so early...

The Bengals drafted Ivan Drago in the 2nd round. 6'8" 277 pound Estonian. Who runs a 4.6 40. Fun.

QB Landry Jones -- just drafted by the Steelers in the fourth round -- is only 10 months younger than Matt Stafford who has four years in the league and 12,000 passing yards in the NFL.

Georgia fans are a lot more sensitive to the needs of Steelers fans than are Oregon St fans.

And brian, I'm going to go ahead and take your lack of slagging on the Le'Veon Bell pick as positive.

sancarlos wrote:I told my daughter that if she had been born a boy, we were going to name her Barkevious.

It would really be an awesome name . . . for a dog. Like, say, a Doberman.

rass wrote:Georgia fans are a lot more sensitive to the needs of Steelers fans than are Oregon St fans.

And brian, I'm going to go ahead and take your lack of slagging on the Le'Veon Bell pick as positive.

No, I absolutely hate it. Not because he doesn't have talent, but he has a lot of tread on his tires. MSU ran him into the ground. The only good thing is he came out a year early or else Dantonio would have probably given him another 350 rushes this year.

brian wrote:

rass wrote:Georgia fans are a lot more sensitive to the needs of Steelers fans than are Oregon St fans.

And brian, I'm going to go ahead and take your lack of slagging on the Le'Veon Bell pick as positive.

No, I absolutely hate it. Not because he doesn't have talent, but he has a lot of tread on his tires. MSU ran him into the ground. The only good thing is he came out a year early or else Dantonio would have probably given him another 350 rushes this year.

That's pretty much the consensus. Shit. Giving the shelf life of backs these days, maybe that's OK. But maybe they could have waited (though there was a run on RB, though they might have helped precipitate that run).

Vikings done did good. but i'd prefer another qb. Ponder ain't my cup of tea, way too Jesusy. But he's got a hot wife so I guess I can last another season with him at qb.

Legarrette Blount might get first team carries for pats. All the more reason to recall the sucker punch. One of the cleanest shots ive seen in a football "fight."

Chris Kluwe's reaction when the Vikings drafted a punter in the 5th round (A quote from Dodgeball):

That's a bold move Cotton. Lets see how it plays.

So are the Vikes getting tired of him being so outspoken? Isn't he good?

Mel's draft day grades

Link

Awesome, Kranepool. Thanks for posting.

brian wrote:

Johnny Hotcakes wrote:One of my best friends is a Lions season ticketholder and him and his pals are furious. Not sure why the national media loves it so much. 5th overall is far too early for an extremely raw player with very limited college production (even if he is admittedly a physical freak). At least that's this asshole's opinion.

Yeah, no one I know likes the pick. If the Lions were picking later in the first round I wouldn't have had any issue with it -- he could absolutely develop into a beast -- but #5 was way too early. Though I guess at least they didn't trade up to reach like the Dolphins did.

Adjusting for the fact that the Lions weren't picking in their usual top two slots, and that it was a weak draft year, this was my favorite draft of the past 10 or so years.

Ansah is obviously a gamble. But highly rated players are all less certain to make it than is typically understood. Ansah's risk is simply more salient. The rest of the draft was a better fit to their needs, and had fewer stretches than in past years. Nice draft at first glance, for whatever good that is. But added to a nice free agent off-season, the Lions appear quite a bit better.

Well, at least the defending champs didn't have the best draft, amirite? Or the three teams in my teams division have markedly better drafts, amirite?

I kept looking for Browns picks on the bottom line and they just weren't there. I know they got a couple for next year, but is there any reason to think the middle of next year's draft will be better than this year? The top will be better, but the middle is almost inelastic in terms of talent. I don't mind the addition of Bess, but I am underwhelemed overall.

Johnnie wrote:Where's the Icepenis signal?

GARY BARBARO.

Been in Austin for a few days. Just checked this thread.

I agree with Detroit peoples on Ansah, he never really dominated on full-game film. I also don't know how I'd get back out there if I were DJ Hayden - how he handles this mentally will be more telling than his talent level.

Would have preferred Justin Hunter to Jones, but I don't care about Jones's 40-time. He was productive as hell. I just am higher on Jason Worilds than pretty much anybody.

Star Lotulelei should become beastly, I think. The Panthers got a steal because he had a virus recently. He dominates on tape. Just throws people around.

Da'Rick Rogers going undrafted blows my mind. He's Anquan Boldin with a taste for weed. If he puts down the weed, he'll kill it.

I only got up to about 275 lbs on the bench while racing to 315. It was a slow, unending race, and it was 4 years ago. Now I mayyyy be able to do 225 once. Maybe.

Alec Ogletree couldn't find the ballcarrier with a map. I think he'll suck in the NFL.

FIN

And no, that is not Fins Up.

AB_skin_test wrote:Well, at least the defending champs didn't have the best draft, amirite? Or the three teams in my teams division have markedly better drafts, amirite?

I kept looking for Browns picks on the bottom line and they just weren't there. I know they got a couple for next year, but is there any reason to think the middle of next year's draft will be better than this year? The top will be better, but the middle is almost inelastic in terms of talent. I don't mind the addition of Bess, but I am underwhelemed overall.

I think Mingo was too much of a project for a Browns team picking 6th, but, as is the caveat with draft talk, whothefuckknows for 2-3 years.

Icepenis wrote:

AB_skin_test wrote:Well, at least the defending champs didn't have the best draft, amirite? Or the three teams in my teams division have markedly better drafts, amirite?

I kept looking for Browns picks on the bottom line and they just weren't there. I know they got a couple for next year, but is there any reason to think the middle of next year's draft will be better than this year? The top will be better, but the middle is almost inelastic in terms of talent. I don't mind the addition of Bess, but I am underwhelemed overall.

I think Mingo was too much of a project for a Browns team picking 6th, but, as is the caveat with draft talk, whothefuckknows for 2-3 years.

I wouldn't have minded Millner in that spot one bit.

The only thing that gives me hope about Ansah (other than his freakish measurables) is that the Lions do have a very simple playbook for DL. Gunther Cunningham half-jokingly has said the playbook for all of the DL is three words -- "Attack the quarterback." Ansah will be lined up in the 9 about 98 percent of the time his rookie year and just asked to get to the QB, though he'll obviously be going up against some great LTs. I still don't like the pick, but I do feel better about his long-term prospects. I just don't think they're going to get much of anything out of him in 2013. Maybe the next GM and coach will reap the rewards.

They might want to modify it for Suh to include "except when the running back has the ball".

Rams seem to have had a pretty good couple days. I still disagree with moving up to take Austin, but looking at their draft as a whole I get it. I wish they had taken Vaccaro when they moved up. I just don't think a 5'8" slot receiver was the biggest need and he'll have to be every bit the playmaker claimed to justify the pick. Getting the OL from Alabama in the 4th was brilliant. Fisher drafted very well last year getting 3.5 starters (RB Richardson split time w/SJ) out of it so if he pulled off the same haul this year we'll be in good shape.

Johnnie wrote:Chris Kluwe's reaction when the Vikings drafted a punter in the 5th round (A quote from Dodgeball):

That's a bold move Cotton. Lets see how it plays.

So are the Vikes getting tired of him being so outspoken? Isn't he good?

Not particularly. And the new guy is probably cheaper.

Rams Fanny wrote:Rams seem to have had a pretty good couple days. I still disagree with moving up to take Austin, but looking at their draft as a whole I get it. I wish they had taken Vaccaro when they moved up. I just don't think a 5'8" slot receiver was the biggest need and he'll have to be every bit the playmaker claimed to justify the pick. Getting the OL from Alabama in the 4th was brilliant. Fisher drafted very well last year getting 3.5 starters (RB Richardson split time w/SJ) out of it so if he pulled off the same haul this year we'll be in good shape.

If he's as good as I think he'll be, you won't care how tall he is when he's turning hitches into 70 yard TDs.

brian wrote:The only thing that gives me hope about Ansah (other than his freakish measurables) is that the Lions do have a very simple playbook for DL. Gunther Cunningham half-jokingly has said the playbook for all of the DL is three words -- "Attack the quarterback." Ansah will be lined up in the 9 about 98 percent of the time his rookie year and just asked to get to the QB, though he'll obviously be going up against some great LTs. I still don't like the pick, but I do feel better about his long-term prospects. I just don't think they're going to get much of anything out of him in 2013. Maybe the next GM and coach will reap the rewards.

What do you think they should have done with that pick?