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Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:43 pm
by Joe K
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:32 pm
43 year old Brady and the Arians system are the worst possible fits for each other. Now I'm not saying that Arians isn't smart enough to know that he would have to change things up - of course he knows this. But how much success can you expect with a 70 year old coach implementing a brand new system?
Yeah, isn’t Arians’ system most successful when a big-armed QB like Roethlisberger or Palmer is launching the ball deep downfield? At least in the last several years, Brady’s game has been based around quick passes underneath.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:26 pm
by Johnnie
TOMPA.
PRINT THE SHIRTS, BARSTOOL.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:27 pm
by mister d
TAWMPA?
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:39 pm
by Ryan
TB 4-12
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:43 pm
by brian
Is it possible Tampa did this just to sell millions of ironic (incongruous) Brady jerseys for decades to come?
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:43 pm
by Johnnie
Ryan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:39 pmTB 4-12
Gunna look 🔥🔥🔥 in pewter.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:14 pm
by Pruitt
Fun stat - Jameis threw more pickoffs last year than Brady threw in the last 4 seasons.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:41 pm
by Johnny Carwash
Should probably have qualified my earlier post that the "source" for the Brady-to-Tampa news is Colin Cowherd and hasn't been confirmed by anyone reliable, so take with a massive grain of salt.
e: Now Schefter is saying the same.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:48 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:43 pm
Ryan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:39 pmTB 4-12
Gunna look 🔥🔥🔥 in pewter.
Slow down, I thought I saw the Bucs will have new uniforms this season.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:58 pm
by mister d
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:01 am
rass wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:05 amI hope he stays now.
He's dumb. Its still in play.
I still feel like some faux-dramatic last second reversal is very in play here, if not the entire plan.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:14 pm
by govmentchedda
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:48 pm
Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:43 pm
Ryan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:39 pmTB 4-12
Gunna look 🔥🔥🔥 in pewter.
Slow down, I thought I saw the Bucs will have new uniforms this season.
According to Paul Lukas it's not a huge change from what they wore when they won the super bowl.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:42 pm
by Pruitt
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:17 am
by Johnnie
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:21 am
by EdRomero
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:43 pm
by Johnnie
Trubisky AVAILABLE.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:31 pm
by Giff
If Bill O'Brien isn't fired in the next couple days, I'm sure NRG will still sellout every game that's played this season (if any).
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:34 pm
by HaulCitgo
How do the Lions have cap room to sign all the guys the pats have to let go because of cash?
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:31 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:43 pm
Trubisky AVAILABLE.
21 wins over the next four years for Chicago. Pace will get fired (as will Nagy) and the GM who comes after him will also end up fired after three seasons.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:59 pm
by Pruitt
LOLOLOL Jags.
I love Brandon Beane
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:20 am
by Rush2112
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Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:32 am
by brian
The Eagles just got one of the most underrated corners in the NFL for almost nothing, so at least there's one or two GMs that are not incompetent. Can't say that for Houston or Detroit though.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:16 pm
by Pruitt
Flacco waived.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:20 pm
by sancarlos
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:16 pmFlacco waived.
They will have to pay a hefty buyout, I think. Because, nobody is picking up that contract, and iirc, it was guaranteed.
Boy, was signing Flacco a stinker of a decision. And, most people not-named-Elway could have predicted it.
ETA: I see that the "Failed Physical" designation gets them off the hook and frees up a bunch of cap money. Yay.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:37 pm
by degenerasian
Gurley is released.
Houston could have just waited a few days.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:48 pm
by L-Jam3
brian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:32 am
The Eagles just got one of the most underrated corners in the NFL for almost nothing, so at least there's one or two GMs that are not incompetent. Can't say that for Houston or Detroit though.
Maybe you can get your revenge on that this week in SwampCrash.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:49 pm
by Pruitt
degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Gurley is released.
Houston could have just waited a few days.
Absolutely incredible.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:53 pm
by Joe K
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:49 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Gurley is released.
Houston could have just waited a few days.
Absolutely incredible.
I think his knees are shot due to his arthritis and he won’t ever be the player he used to be.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:06 am
by Gunpowder
Joe K wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:53 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:49 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Gurley is released.
Houston could have just waited a few days.
Absolutely incredible.
I think his knees are shot due to his arthritis and he won’t ever be the player he used to be.
Yeah same here. I know it's weird but I think they should put him on a plant-based diet and just hope that some of the arthritis is alleviated.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:52 pm
by Johnnie
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:05 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:52 pm
I get his point, but the Bears are just rearranging the deck chairs.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:13 am
by Johnnie
The meme page is not wrong...
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:10 am
by Gunpowder
Nick Foles is still living off one good game but I mean, Cam Newton's shoulder is probably irreparably fucked up.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:35 am
by HaulCitgo
A broken cam is not a starting qb. If he really had the drive he would work great for three game stretch as a backup where he drains what's left of his body running through dbs but I can't imagine him having that drive or being content to wait his turn as a backup. Not sure he has a spot at all.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:01 am
by Brontoburglar
HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:35 am
A broken cam is not a starting qb. If he really had the drive he would work great for three game stretch as a backup where he drains what's left of his body running through dbs but I can't imagine him having that drive or being content to wait his turn as a backup. Not sure he has a spot at all.
what the hell?
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:05 am
by Johnnie
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:31 am
by sancarlos
Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:05 am
Drew Lock looked great as the starter in Denver. Everybody in Colorado is a bit over-excited, frankly. There is no desire to bring in any veteran.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:09 pm
by HaulCitgo
Cam needs the threat of the run. At absolute minimum has to have some roethlisberger in him. If not, the pocket passing isn't good enough. Didn't think that was an outlier belief.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:10 pm
by A_B
HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:09 pm
Cam needs the threat of the run. At absolute minimum has to have some roethlisberger in him. If not, the pocket passing isn't good enough. Didn't think that was an outlier belief.
He completed 67% of passes in last full season he played.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:25 pm
by sancarlos
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:10 pm
HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:09 pm
Cam needs the threat of the run. At absolute minimum has to have some roethlisberger in him. If not, the pocket passing isn't good enough. Didn't think that was an outlier belief.
He completed 67% of passes in last full season he played.
That may have been a completely different Cam than exists, now.
Re: NFL Off-season 2020
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:01 pm
by L-Jam3
sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:25 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:10 pm
HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:09 pm
Cam needs the threat of the run. At absolute minimum has to have some roethlisberger in him. If not, the pocket passing isn't good enough. Didn't think that was an outlier belief.
He completed 67% of passes in last full season he played.
That may have been a completely different Cam than exists, now.
Here is Cam's Passing-only DVOA and Rank among qualifying passers (100+ pass plays up to 2014, 200+ pass plays 2015 and later)
'11 => 0.8%, 16th
'12 => 2.0%, 15th
'13 => 1.7%, 19th (first year without Steve Smith)
'14 => (14.5%), 33rd
'15 => 7.6%, 12th
'16 => (13.0%), 28th
'17 => (6.9%), 21st
'18 => (1.4%), 23rd (decomposing shoulder)
'19 => (7.0%), not enough attempts to qualify by ranking
That really makes me sad, as I'm a huge fan of Cam. Keep in mind that DVOA (a) adjusts for opponents, meaning lighting up a crappy pass D like the Saints is discounted, and (b) doesn't separate the QB from his surrounding talent and play calls. Cam's passing alone (as a function of Carolina's passing) is really just ok.