2021-22 NHL season

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:19 pm

Bowman out!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:06 pm

Seems like there's no way Cheveldayoff or Quenneville should survive this as reported but we all know how that goes.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:19 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:06 pm Seems like there's no way Cheveldayoff or Quenneville should survive this as reported but we all know how that goes.

That's where I am on this as well, but in skimming the report, it looks like Q might have a tiny bit of plausible deniability.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:12 pm

Did you get to the part where he reportedly complained that any corrective action would be a distraction to their playoff run?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:52 pm

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:20 pm

I hope they have to give up Krebs to make it happen.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:22 pm

Makes as much sense as anything else. That team needs centers bad, and VGK ownership and management are always in win now mode.

Post by **brian** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:31 pm

I doubt they give up Krebs. They have to give up salary so it would probably be Alex Tuch and a couple of 1A prospects.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:34 pm

brian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:31 pm I doubt they give up Krebs. They have to give up salary so it would probably be Alex Tuch and a couple of 1A prospects.

Eichel will be there for a decade. It's going to take more than that.

Post by **brian** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:37 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:34 pm
brian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:31 pm I doubt they give up Krebs. They have to give up salary so it would probably be Alex Tuch and a couple of 1A prospects.
Eichel will be there for a decade. It's going to take more than that.

Not if his neck is fucked up and he really wants out bad enough. Buffalo's gonna have to sell low probably. Tuch is a local kid (Syracuse) which moves the needle a little and on a ridiculously cheap contract for his talent ($4.8x5) which Buffalo is also getting. Throw in a package like Lucas Elvenes and Brendan Brisson as well and it's not a super bad deal for Buffalo especially given their lack of leverage.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:27 pm

Yeah, I can’t imagine an A prospect is in any Eichel deal. Unless Sather bids again.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:50 pm

I don't know what I'm watching. Flames used to be the worst first period team, always playing from behind. Even the year they finished 1st in the conference, it was all 4rd period comebacks.

This year they are just blitzing first periods.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:04 pm

absolutely unreal that Quenneville is behind the bench tonight, let alone not removed from the NHL permanently.

if you have the will for it, here's the interview with "John Doe" from TSN tonight. So much awfulness...the entire Hawks organization deserves as much shame as possible.

https://www.tsn.ca/kyle-beach-john-doe-1.1712468

Interesting that Kane and Toews are in "covid protocol"

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:28 pm

Toews out of protocol tonight, I think. But yes, it should all be burned to the ground.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:37 pm

Obviously I don’t know team dynamics but Toews was super young that season despite being captain. Maybe it’ll come out he was the ringleader or something but I’d assume more focus should be on the veterans. And Patrick Kane because fuck Patrick Kane forever.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:03 pm

Ovi already has one tonight. A power play goal. He is now 3 behind Dave Andreychuk for the all time record.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:44 pm

Would like to officially retract any soft non-condemnation of Toews from a few hours ago.

Post by **brian** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:53 pm

The way Chicago is going Lundqvist might catch up to MAF in wins.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:13 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:44 pm Would like to officially retract any soft non-condemnation of Toews from a few hours ago.

Impressive leadership.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:17 pm

I will retract every anti-Ryan Reaves comment and thought I’ve ever had if he takes Toews’ and Kane’s heads and smashes them together making them crack like eggs.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:44 pm

Oh my fucking god I wrote that having only read the abridged Toews quote. Jesus Fucking Christ.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:24 am

"I have a lot of respect for them as people. They're good people."

a. Jonathan Toews
b. Donald Trump
c. Bobby Hull

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:44 pm Oh my fucking god I wrote that having only read the abridged Toews quote. Jesus Fucking Christ.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:45 am

The clowns in Edmonton

Sportsnet really needs to take some heat here. TSN has handled this very well, and given Westhead all the resources he needs to go after it.

Sportsnet & CBC on the other hand.....

All those losers on HNIC have just shown everyone how pathetic they are. So happy to about non-NHL issues like residential schools, mental health....but as soon as something arises regarding the NHL they get very quiet.

The Beach interview was heart-wrenching and none of the support he’s receiving today would have happened if not for the real reporters like Rick Westhead, Katie Strang, Emily Kaplan and Mark Lazerus who have done the hard work and dug into this story. The team would still be in denial mode if they weren’t forced into corner by these reporters’ tough questions and the backlash from negative coverage and perceptions.

Everything about this story has shown how ugly hockey culture can be and how hockey reporters” are willing to look the other way. Actual journalists uncover unpopular truths. There should be a lot of mea culpas—from the league, NHLPA, the so-called leaders on the team. But the media and NHL insiders need to own their share for ignoring the story as long as they did. They’ve shown they’re little more than part of the NHL’s PR machine. I guess all they can be counted on for is entertainment and sharing trade rumours and other speculation.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:45 am

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:37 pm Obviously I don’t know team dynamics but Toews was super young that season despite being captain. Maybe it’ll come out he was the ringleader or something but I’d assume more focus should be on the veterans. And Patrick Kane because fuck Patrick Kane forever.

I'm trying to catch-up a bit on this story and have a decent handle on the role Blackhawks management played here... Haven't dug around much, but also haven't seen (Edit) stories showing how the players are culpable. Is the allegation that the players all knew this was going on and just didn't care? Didn't press management to do something? Allowed the guy to still participate in Stanley Cup celebrations?

I must be missing something pretty obvious (not unusual.)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:14 am

Were aware and mocked Beach about it.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:41 am

And Toews defended Bowman yesterday.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:14 pm

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https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/324 ... almon-fans

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:47 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:14 am Were aware and mocked Beach about it.

Oh no. Well, cool, fuck those guys.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:51 pm

this will sound biased (and it shouldn't be because I hate a lot of things about the Flames organization) but also this whole thing has really made me appreciate the way the Flames handled the Peters situation.

They didn't give him a platform to deny the accusations or say he had never heard of it (Coach Q).

They didn't allow him to remain behind the bench as he was held out of any games in the interim.

There was no talk about how Peters was a good guy who just made a mistake.

And they did their own investigation and fired Peters before the NHL could even step in or do their own thing.

Compare that to how Chicago, Florida, and Winnipeg are handling this and it really does make me appreciate the Flames leadership team a little more again this morning.

Post by **brian** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:40 pm

VGK just signed one of their young defenseman to an insanely team-friendly contract. For $2.75M AAV they were able to buy 4 UFA years.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:35 pm

Torts becomes the first to get it right:

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:56 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:01 amAfter several months of zero shots, Tyler Bertuzzi had four goals. Can't wait for him to start missing games in Canada.

Joe Veleno gets to make his season debut in Toronto. Probably not replacing Bertuzzi on the first line, but I can't imagine they brought him up to have him as a healthy scratch.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:31 pm

Seven Sharks and the head coach all on the Covid reserve list. Sheesh!

ETA: Literally half the team last night was AHL players, guys usually healthy-scratched, and/or rookies... and they won.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:59 am

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:31 pm Seven Sharks and the head coach all on the Covid reserve list. Sheesh!

ETA: Literally half the team last night was AHL players, guys usually healthy-scratched, and/or rookies... and they won.

Aaand... last night, again due to Covid, they played without four of their top six defensemen, their mvp-so-far Timo Meier, second liner Kevin Labanc and the head coach and won again. Flabbergasting. Not sure when they hit midnight and turn back into pumpkins but I’m enjoying it so far.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:50 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:01 amAfter several months of zero shots, Tyler Bertuzzi had four goals. Can't wait for him to start missing games in Canada.

Red Wings are 0-3 with a total of five goals scored in Canada without the man who is reportedly the only unvaccinated NHL player. He's not the only reason, of course, but it's not helping.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:21 pm

If this is true, why hasn't Buffalo taken it? I don't think Vegas can match.

I'm guessing the former 1st round pick is Valimaki.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:06 pm

Feels a lot more like a Calgary float to (1) get a team in their division to offer more and (2) let Tkachuk know there are even less desirable situations out there.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:47 am

Freidge reporting deal to VGK completed last night. Tuch in the group heading to Buffalo.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:48 am

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:55 am

Seems like a great deal for VGK assuming the whole bionic neck thing goes well.