It's the sixth version of The Swamp. What could possibly go wrong?
http://www.sportsfrog.net/phpbb/
Rex wrote:There's one other thing about the South that I need to be absolutely clear about, and that is that grits are disgusting.
Steve of phpBB wrote:However, there is also a large group of Southerners left out of this analysis - the descendants of slavery's victims. In the abstract, I have no problem with Southerners wanting to remember a significant time in their past, or people in Richmond remembering when they were the capital of a purported country. But it is appalling that the black residents of the South have to see every day the glorification of slavery and the folks who tried to perpetuate it.
EnochRoot wrote:It's astounding to me that there as a condition of the Reconstruction, there weren't federal laws enacted banning statues, etc honoring the Confederacy. Because you needn't have been all that keen of an observer at the time to see the conflating of it with southern heritage that would occur down the line.
Steve of phpBB wrote:However, there is also a large group of Southerners left out of this analysis - the descendants of slavery's victims. In the abstract, I have no problem with Southerners wanting to remember a significant time in their past, or people in Richmond remembering when they were the capital of a purported country. But it is appalling that the black residents of the South have to see every day the glorification of slavery and the folks who tried to perpetuate it.
Steve of phpBB wrote:But (I'm genuinely curious), how many of the monuments are to those guys, versus the generals and politicians and other aristocrats?
Shirley wrote:Exactly. And you're completely right. For the most part, when people romanticize about southern culture, they're usually talking exclusively about white culture (unless it's food). And that's the tricky part about Richmond. Like any city, there are a lot of black people who live there who shouldn't have to see all these statues to Confederate heroes. The proper thing to do is probably build a nice museum - or even a dedicated park - and put them there. And DON'T put it right across the street from the courthouse or city hall.
sancarlos wrote:https://twitter.com/bethanyshondark/status/897943393958936577
"For half an hour, three men dressed in fatigues and armed with semi-automatic rifles stood across the street from the temple," Alan Zimmerman, the president of Congregation Beth Israel, wrote. "Had they tried to enter, I don’t know what I could have done to stop them, but I couldn’t take my eyes off them, either."
Zimmerman said he was forced to hire an armed guard because the Charlottesville police refused to provide an officer to watch over the temple's Saturday morning services.
"Several times, parades of Nazis passed our building, shouting, 'There's the synagogue!' followed by chants of 'Sieg Heil' and other anti-Semitic language," Zimmerman said. "Some carried flags with swastikas and other Nazi symbols."
"This is 2017 in the United States of America," he added.
We have seen such a character before in Jewish history: the shtadlan. The shtadlan , or “court Jew,” existed to please the king, to placate the king, to loan money to the king. He would dress like other members of the court, and he would beg the king for leniency toward the Jews but, ultimately, his loyalty was to the king.
I thought we were past the age of the shtadlan. So did my rabbi, Danny Zemel. “These guys are the princes of American business power,” he said. “If they can’t find an ounce of moral fiber from their own Jewish past, we’re in a very sorry way. If they view themselves as court Jews, then they’ll keep their mouths shut and keep their nice jobs.”
Johnnie wrote:https://youtu.be/iVvpXZxXWZU
Going at Paul Ryan. I love it.
To Sheldon Adelson and our other fellow Jews still engaged in making the repugnant calculation that a hater of Arabs must be a lover of Jews, or that money trumps hate, or that a million dollars’ worth of access can protect you from one boot heel at the door: Wise up.
Jerloma wrote:There are 9 more Nazi rallies scheduled this weekend. What are the chances that nobody else dies? 3%?
Joe K wrote:According to Benjamin Netanyahu's son, you're overreacting:
https://twitter.com/lahavharkov/status/ ... 3488941058
The Trump-Netanyahu alliance is repulsive on so many levels.
Johnnie wrote:Rex wrote:There's one other thing about the South that I need to be absolutely clear about, and that is that grits are disgusting.
But what about magic grits?
https://youtu.be/_T24lHnB7N8
Pruitt wrote:Michael Chabon posted a (not surprisingly well written) open letter to Jews concerning Trump.
https://extranewsfeed.com/to-our-fellow-jews-in-the-united-states-in-israel-and-around-the-world-ff421a1d325d
And sadly, the comment below applies to a number of my fellow tribesmen:To Sheldon Adelson and our other fellow Jews still engaged in making the repugnant calculation that a hater of Arabs must be a lover of Jews, or that money trumps hate, or that a million dollars’ worth of access can protect you from one boot heel at the door: Wise up.
Sorry for getting all Jewy on you guys, but Nazi flags outside a synagogue...
bfj wrote:
I emailed that to a number of my douchier relatives who I have spoken to sparingly since election night. I'm sure they'll appreciate it.
Johnnie wrote:
When elitest Obama the Kenyan Muslim socialist said, "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he's stating a fact. But it's that he's stating that fact so in turn he's demonizing because he's already the demon and this further proves his demonhood.
But it's fucking true.
DaveInSeattle wrote:Johnnie wrote:
When elitest Obama the Kenyan Muslim socialist said, "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he's stating a fact. But it's that he's stating that fact so in turn he's demonizing because he's already the demon and this further proves his demonhood.
But it's fucking true.
Has anyone read "Hillbilly Elegy" by J.D. Vance? He spend 80% of the book talking about how awful his family/relatives/neighbors were. Uneducated, lazy, substance abusers. Basically poor white trash.
But then at the end, he wrote about when politicians (read "Democrats") try to help them out with government programs, they are "talking down to them" or "not respecting them". Infuriating.
bfj wrote:Pruitt wrote:Michael Chabon posted a (not surprisingly well written) open letter to Jews concerning Trump.
https://extranewsfeed.com/to-our-fellow-jews-in-the-united-states-in-israel-and-around-the-world-ff421a1d325d
And sadly, the comment below applies to a number of my fellow tribesmen:To Sheldon Adelson and our other fellow Jews still engaged in making the repugnant calculation that a hater of Arabs must be a lover of Jews, or that money trumps hate, or that a million dollars’ worth of access can protect you from one boot heel at the door: Wise up.
Sorry for getting all Jewy on you guys, but Nazi flags outside a synagogue...
I emailed that to a number of my douchier relatives who I have spoken to sparingly since election night. I'm sure they'll appreciate it.
degenerasian wrote:DaveInSeattle wrote:Johnnie wrote:
When elitest Obama the Kenyan Muslim socialist said, "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he's stating a fact. But it's that he's stating that fact so in turn he's demonizing because he's already the demon and this further proves his demonhood.
But it's fucking true.
Has anyone read "Hillbilly Elegy" by J.D. Vance? He spend 80% of the book talking about how awful his family/relatives/neighbors were. Uneducated, lazy, substance abusers. Basically poor white trash.
But then at the end, he wrote about when politicians (read "Democrats") try to help them out with government programs, they are "talking down to them" or "not respecting them". Infuriating.
Yup. He's made a life for himself but others remain poor white trash. Good interview with him here on the Ezra Klein show.
https://www.vox.com/2017/2/2/14404770/j ... klein-show
In many ways, I should appreciate Elegy. I grew up poor on the border of southwest Virginia and east Tennessee. My parents are the sort of god-fearing hard workers that conservatives like Vance fetishize. I attended an out-of-state Christian college thanks to scholarships, and had to raise money to even buy a plane ticket to attend grad school. My rare genetic disease didn’t get diagnosed until I was 21 because I lacked consistent access to health care. I’m one of the few members of my high school class who earned a bachelor’s degree, one of the fewer still who earned a master’s degree, and one of maybe three or four who left the area for good.
But unlike Vance, I look at my home and see a region abandoned by the government elected to serve it. My public high school didn’t have enough textbooks and half our science lab equipment didn’t work. Some of my classmates did not have enough to eat; others wore the same clothes every day. Sometimes this happened because their addict parents spent money on drugs. But the state was no help here either. Its solution to our opioid epidemic has been incarceration, not rehabilitation. Addicts with additional psychiatric conditions are particularly vulnerable. There aren’t enough beds in psychiatric hospitals to serve the region—the same reason Virginia State Sen. Creigh Deeds (D) nearly died at the hands of his mentally ill son in 2013.
And then there is welfare. In Elegy, Vance complains about hillbillies who he believes purchased cellphones with welfare funds. But data makes it clear that our current welfare system is too limited to lift depressed regions out of poverty.
Kathryn Edin and H. Luke Shaefer reported earlier this year that the number of families surviving on $2 a day grew by 130 percent between 1996 and 2011. Blacks and Latinos are still disproportionately more likely to live under the poverty line, but predominately white Appalachia hasn’t been spared the scourge either. And while Obamacare has significantly reduced the number of uninsured Americans, its premiums are still often expensive and are set to rise. Organizations like Remote Access Medical (RAM) have been forced to make up the difference: Back home, people start lining up at 4 a.m. for a chance to access RAM’s free healthcare clinics. From 2007 to 2011, the lifespans of eastern Kentucky women declined by 13 months even as they rose for women in the rest of the country.
sancarlos wrote:My best friend here in S.C. Is a Jewish guy who supports Trump. (We have basically agreed not to discuss politics anymore to avoid conflict.). But I want him to see this Chabon article. Any thoughts on what to do?
brian wrote:Yeah fuck Michael Rapaport too.
Lee, Jackson, Davis: icons of the Confederacy
My .02 -- Take 'em down. signed. Jackson Lee Davis
degenerasian wrote:Crazy to think that a violent protest in an American city is bringing down the Canadian Breitbart
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... arper.html
It’s been, to put it mildly, a shit week for Rebel Media’s self-styled ‘Rebel Commander’ Ezra Levant:
– Following the tragedy in Charlottesville last weekend, Rebel Media co-founder Brian Lilley, and periodic columnists Barbara Kay and John Robson all severed their ties to the organization;
– By Thursday it was learned that Rebel mainstay and Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes was moving on. According to Levant, he’d been poached by an organization with deeper pockets;
– The same day, Levant announced he’d fired popular Rebel personality Faith Goldy after her appearance on a neo-nazi podcast;
– A bombshell video from two disgruntled former Rebel staffers was released alleging Levant was paying ‘hush money’ to keep quiet about the company’s business practices;
– A disavowal came out from Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, who says he will refuse all media requests from the organization until its ‘editorial direction changes’ (whatever that means);
– Press Progress revealed that Levant was receiving funding from an anti-Muslim think tank;
– And even the much-hyped Rebel Cruise was cancelled.
degenerasian wrote:degenerasian wrote:Crazy to think that a violent protest in an American city is bringing down the Canadian Breitbart
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... arper.html
Wanted to update this story. The Rebel is totally falling apart. I wonder if Breitbart will one day follow.
Here's Pruitt's favorite podcast with the details.
http://www.canadalandshow.com/podcast/ezras-bad-week/
Cliff Notes VersionIt’s been, to put it mildly, a shit week for Rebel Media’s self-styled ‘Rebel Commander’ Ezra Levant:
– Following the tragedy in Charlottesville last weekend, Rebel Media co-founder Brian Lilley, and periodic columnists Barbara Kay and John Robson all severed their ties to the organization;
– By Thursday it was learned that Rebel mainstay and Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes was moving on. According to Levant, he’d been poached by an organization with deeper pockets;
– The same day, Levant announced he’d fired popular Rebel personality Faith Goldy after her appearance on a neo-nazi podcast;
– A bombshell video from two disgruntled former Rebel staffers was released alleging Levant was paying ‘hush money’ to keep quiet about the company’s business practices;
– A disavowal came out from Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, who says he will refuse all media requests from the organization until its ‘editorial direction changes’ (whatever that means);
– Press Progress revealed that Levant was receiving funding from an anti-Muslim think tank;
– And even the much-hyped Rebel Cruise was cancelled.
