Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:35 am
You're sure he's much better than Kruger?
It's the sixth version of The Swamp. What could possibly go wrong?
http://www.sportsfrog.net/phpbb/
Kruger was horrible against the run. He couldn't set the edge at all. He had 15.5 sacks in 4 seasons. Dumervil has 63.5 sacks in 8 seasons, including a 17 sack season. You tell me.FredRomero wrote:You're sure he's much better than Kruger?
SlimChristian wrote:He fired the agent that fucked up.Scottie wrote:Fucked up agent that may have got lucky?Johnnie wrote:Good faith? Good business?
No, that's not quite true. James Harrison wants to return to Pittsburgh, but the Steelers have all of the dead money from his contract on their cap this year and even giving him $1.5 mil now would lead to a bigger cap hit than he'd have before he was released.Johnnie wrote:I guess. It just seems that if Dumervil wanted to stay with Denver he would have, dumbass agent or not though. To just jump to Baltimore like that says something else was there that gave him motive to leave.
FredRomero wrote:I may have been basing my analysis too much on what each player did against the Patriots. Kruger's teammates may have had a bit of an influence though.
He was a semi-dominant force when Suggs drew the double teams. Dumervil's 17 sack season also came when he was an OLB, not as a rush end. He'll be playing that OLB spot for the Ravens. I just like the idea of Suggs on one end and Elvis on the other. It presents problems and will help the secondary which has suffered major losses.Grasspenis wrote:FredRomero wrote:I may have been basing my analysis too much on what each player did against the Patriots. Kruger's teammates may have had a bit of an influence though.
Dumervil's 17-sack year was an aberration, but that word could also describe "Kruger as good NFL player". He doesn't have a long track record of success, and it's not like he was some dominant force all season.
SlimChristian wrote:He was a semi-dominant force when Suggs drew the double teams. Dumervil's 17 sack season also came when he was an OLB, not as a rush end. He'll be playing that OLB spot for the Ravens. I just like the idea of Suggs on one end and Elvis on the other. It presents problems and will help the secondary which has suffered major losses.Grasspenis wrote:FredRomero wrote:I may have been basing my analysis too much on what each player did against the Patriots. Kruger's teammates may have had a bit of an influence though.
Dumervil's 17-sack year was an aberration, but that word could also describe "Kruger as good NFL player". He doesn't have a long track record of success, and it's not like he was some dominant force all season.
To be fair, someone asked him which Pats player has the ugliest wife. Its not close. And that's without even looking. So, yeah, its bad form to call someone's wife ugliest. On the other hand, truth is truth.FredRomero wrote:And to complete the trifecta of Patriots news, on the radio Ted Johnson said that Vince Wilfork's wife is ugly. Vince didn't take it well
Yeah, same with Stafford. Lions are probably looking at about 6 yrs, $110M or so, but Stafford's got $20M coming for the next two years so he'll probably let it ride this season and see what happens. He could end up getting more, but probably not too much less (short of another serious injury of course). Lions tried to re-up him this year to make cap room, but truth is next season works out just as well for both parties.DSafetyGuy wrote:Probably sets the bar for Cutler, who is a free agent after this coming season. Not too happy about that, although the Bears should look into extending him now to free up some cap space for this year.
I would think Stafford would do better than Romo/Cutler due to upside and being younger, thus getting a longer contract. Romo and Cutler often get lumped together under the "very talented/haven't won squat" umbrella, so I imagine the former's extension as a template, and Stafford seems to be a half-step above them.brian wrote:Yeah, same with Stafford. Lions are probably looking at about 6 yrs, $110M or so, but Stafford's got $20M coming for the next two years so he'll probably let it ride this season and see what happens. He could end up getting more, but probably not too much less (short of another serious injury of course). Lions tried to re-up him this year to make cap room, but truth is next season works out just as well for both parties.DSafetyGuy wrote:Probably sets the bar for Cutler, who is a free agent after this coming season. Not too happy about that, although the Bears should look into extending him now to free up some cap space for this year.
Maybe but another middling season this year won't do him any favors. He does have youth on his side. He's still only 25. I don't see him making it to his walk year one way or another.DSafetyGuy wrote:I would think Stafford would do better than Romo/Cutler due to upside and being younger, thus getting a longer contract. Romo and Cutler often get lumped together under the "very talented/haven't won squat" umbrella, so I imagine the former's extension as a template, and Stafford seems to be a half-step above them.brian wrote:Yeah, same with Stafford. Lions are probably looking at about 6 yrs, $110M or so, but Stafford's got $20M coming for the next two years so he'll probably let it ride this season and see what happens. He could end up getting more, but probably not too much less (short of another serious injury of course). Lions tried to re-up him this year to make cap room, but truth is next season works out just as well for both parties.DSafetyGuy wrote:Probably sets the bar for Cutler, who is a free agent after this coming season. Not too happy about that, although the Bears should look into extending him now to free up some cap space for this year.
Yeah, despite playing for the Cowboys he's arguably the most underrated QB in the NFL.Brontoburglar wrote:I don't understand the Romo hate. Yeah, he's farted away games, but the Cowboys wouldn't be in the position they were in to fart away the games in the first place without Romo playing well to get them there.
Right. The issue is who do you replace him with. If you assume that Romo is at worst league average (and I'd argue he's closer to about 8th-12th in the league), even league average QBs don't exactly grow on trees. There's a shitton of franchises that would kill for a league average QB right about now. So someone was going to pay him. If the Cowboys had someone waiting in the wings, it would be one thing.rass wrote:He's 32. He's had six years to rewrite his defining moment. But yeah, Romo could definitely be worse, and their GM sucks, so they probably had to pay him.
brian wrote:Right. The issue is who do you replace him with. If you assume that Romo is at worst league average (and I'd argue he's closer to about 8th-12th in the league), even league average QBs don't exactly grow on trees. There's a shitton of franchises that would kill for a league average QB right about now. So someone was going to pay him. If the Cowboys had someone waiting in the wings, it would be one thing.rass wrote:He's 32. He's had six years to rewrite his defining moment. But yeah, Romo could definitely be worse, and their GM sucks, so they probably had to pay him.
I, too would also kill for the opportunity to ridiculously overpay a league average qb. Beats two guys who've each had two failures at being the man or trying to guess which shit sandwich has the prize inside in this draft.The Sybian wrote:brian wrote:Right. The issue is who do you replace him with. If you assume that Romo is at worst league average (and I'd argue he's closer to about 8th-12th in the league), even league average QBs don't exactly grow on trees. There's a shitton of franchises that would kill for a league average QB right about now. So someone was going to pay him. If the Cowboys had someone waiting in the wings, it would be one thing.rass wrote:He's 32. He's had six years to rewrite his defining moment. But yeah, Romo could definitely be worse, and their GM sucks, so they probably had to pay him.
I would kill for a league average QB. That sounds fantastic right about now. Way better than a shitty QB with an enormous cap-eating salary no other team would touch, a backup making $5 million who the coaches won't even let throw a pass and use as a blocker on the punting unit, and a way over the hill formerly league average QB who was only average because of his legs and hasn't started in years. Yeah, league average sounds great!
Game, set, match.brian wrote:Right. The issue is who do you replace him with. If you assume that Romo is at worst league average (and I'd argue he's closer to about 8th-12th in the league), even league average QBs don't exactly grow on trees. There's a shitton of franchises that would kill for a league average QB right about now. So someone was going to pay him. If the Cowboys had someone waiting in the wings, it would be one thing.rass wrote:He's 32. He's had six years to rewrite his defining moment. But yeah, Romo could definitely be worse, and their GM sucks, so they probably had to pay him.
As a long time Cowboy hater and suffering Skins fan who would like to again suggest that Minnesota is being punished by g-d for the Herschel Walker trade, Romo is a good QB who throws for a metric ass load. I blame his supporting cast. I think he pretty much won me the Swamp FF title.devilfluff wrote:Game, set, match.brian wrote:Right. The issue is who do you replace him with. If you assume that Romo is at worst league average (and I'd argue he's closer to about 8th-12th in the league), even league average QBs don't exactly grow on trees. There's a shitton of franchises that would kill for a league average QB right about now. So someone was going to pay him. If the Cowboys had someone waiting in the wings, it would be one thing.rass wrote:He's 32. He's had six years to rewrite his defining moment. But yeah, Romo could definitely be worse, and their GM sucks, so they probably had to pay him.
As a longtime Cowboys fan, I'm effectively neutral about Romo.
My Eagles-fan family thinks poorly of him. I got a text right after the extension asking how I felt... My response: "Could be worse, could have been spent on Vick."