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Also, he gave $5K but offered $20K which pretty clearly means he intended to give only $5K and the caddie was like "WTF?"

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:35 pm Also, he gave $5K but offered $20K which pretty clearly means he intended to give only $5K and the caddie was like "WTF?"

Well, again, they had agreed on a payment. Then he happened to win. He hadn't won in like four years, so he probably didn't have a lot of thought of winning that week. So to offer a bit more was nice, but I can totally get why Kuchar thinks it was handled fairly.

And also i totally see why he's being roasted.

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:30 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:26 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:28 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:29 pm I'm completely fine with the caddy airing him out. The number one protection for assholes is silence.

Yeah, it's almost literally pennies for Kuchar and life-changing money for the caddy. Wonder if it would have been worth $50K to not have the embarrassment at having this aired out... and the story of him doing this for the caddy would have ended up getting out, too, which probably would have gotten him some additional sponsorship/public speaking gigs to more than recoup the 50K.

Put another way (as a comms/marketing guy) Kuchar should be pissed at his agent (or whatever similarly positioned suit made the decision), because $50k would've been worth the amount of free media he would've garnered by PUSHING THE STORY OUT. Pretty dumb, actually.

Kevin Van Valkenburg tweeted something similar, as Kuchar's "appeal" is his golly gee, oh shucks, likeable persona.

I don't want to paint too broad of a brush, but... I ACTIVELY don't go looking at the political views of most athletes, so I won't go around being all disappointed all the time.

In no other sport is this more relevant than professional golf.

I suspect about 95 percent of all pro golfers are more MAGA than Trump.

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:53 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:35 pm Also, he gave $5K but offered $20K which pretty clearly means he intended to give only $5K and the caddie was like "WTF?"

Well, again, they had agreed on a payment. Then he happened to win. He hadn't won in like four years, so he probably didn't have a lot of thought of winning that week. So to offer a bit more was nice, but I can totally get why Kuchar thinks it was handled fairly.

And also i totally see why he's being roasted.

Over $46.6 million in career earnings. Plus endorsements. Had just won $1.3 million.

He shouldn't have offered more, he should have just handed it over, regardless of having agreed on a payment.

A flat fee is a flat fee. The caddy would have gotten that if Kuch missed the cut which means not working two less days.

And his caddie has no expenses.

Golfers are businessmen, forget the nice guy persona.

How has an agent not required his golfers to get an NDA is place with the caddy at this point as part of the standard operating proceedure. At minimum you would avoid this and some tell all book.

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:56 am How has an agent not required his golfers to get an NDA is place with the caddy at this point as part of the standard operating proceedure. At minimum you would avoid this and some tell all book.

If he was worried about getting found out he would have paid him what he knew was fair from the start. People like this never think they're going to get found out. That's how sexual assault and a whole bunch of other shitty stuff happen. This whole story is a microcosm of our entire shitty society. Rich people exploiting the labor of poorer people, especially people of color and then not expecting anyone to care when they get called out for being a cheap bastard.

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am A flat fee is a flat fee. The caddy would have gotten that if Kuch missed the cut which means not working two less days.

Restaurants also charge a flat fee and then you customarily leave more than a 0.4% tip.

Seriously.

You win $1.3 million, you can afford to help a guy out. What an asshole.

From Deadspin (via Golf.com)...

“For a guy who makes $200 a day, a $5,000 week is a really big week,” he said.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:22 am

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am A flat fee is a flat fee. The caddy would have gotten that if Kuch missed the cut which means not working two less days.

Restaurants also charge a flat fee and then you customarily leave more than a 0.4% tip.

You don't pay the server 3 grand just to bring you your food, though.

A_B wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:36 am

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:22 am

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am A flat fee is a flat fee. The caddy would have gotten that if Kuch missed the cut which means not working two less days.

Restaurants also charge a flat fee and then you customarily leave more than a 0.4% tip.

You don't pay the server 3 grand just to bring you your food, though.

And you don't have a regular personal server.

Kuchar is going to pay up the 50 grand it looks like

Would have been cooler if he paid the full caddy share after all this. Probably the only way to really wipe it clean.

https://deadspin.com/golfer-matt-kuchar ... 1832663030

Paying him 50k, per caddies request. Donating to charity.

Classic crisis comms statement and response. So avoidable.

Golfing needs a good heel.

Eh people will forget now. Smart of him to do the right thing even if it was late.

He was dragged kicking and screaming via a PR shitstorm to pay half of what he should have (instead of the actual $130,000) then donates money to charity which he will surely take as a tax write-off. Win-Win!

He deserves to be in the "Punchable Faces" HOF.

So Tiger points at fatigue as the reason he fell off the pace. Doesn't that point to not selecting him for Ryder/President's cup. Also weren't match play finals generally 36 holes. Maybe fatigue was not from the course.

He’s slightly older than when he was winning us ams.

Also fuck Jb Holmes for plumb bobbing a one foot putt

Tiger dropped an Elway on the island hole today

So the 17-year old who is looking to go pro later this year. +4 yesterday, even today and sits at 113th. Missed Cut at the Valspar. But still pretty impressive kid.

ETA: This is the Inaugural Augusta National Women's Amateur tournament.

That dude has the same name as you.

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:15 pm That dude has the same name as you.

The call is coming from inside the house!

FYI there was no hole in one on a par 4. Some scoring error on the website people.

Isn't that one under par, or am I being thick?

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:09 am Isn't that one under par, or am I being thick?

The Ye player was the one i was talking about. She was at 6 over through nine, then went to 3 over in one hole.

Me thick. And hungover.

in case anyone is curious about PGA players' retirement plans.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hundr ... 2019-04-24

So Hank Haney guessed correctly. And adding 6 to the end of name because there are 5 other golfers with the same name is just strange.

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:12 am So Hank Haney guessed correctly. And adding 6 to the end of name because there are 5 other golfers with the same name is just strange.

It is, but Eun is the most common Korea middle name, which becomes the hyphenated first name. Many Korean girls will be something-Eun or Eun-something. It's like Thi in Vietnamese, if you know any. My wife's name is Thi-Thu To (say that 3 times)

In this case, they just call her 'Six' which is a cool nickname. She could have chosen something bland like Janice Lee.

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:03 am

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:12 am So Hank Haney guessed correctly. And adding 6 to the end of name because there are 5 other golfers with the same name is just strange.

It is, but Eun is the most common Korea middle name, which becomes the hyphenated first name. Many Korean girls will be something-Eun or Eun-something. It's like Thi in Vietnamese, if you know any. My wife's name is Thi-Thu To (say that 3 times)

In this case, they just call her 'Six' which is a cool nickname. She could have chosen something bland like Janice Lee.

In golf 6 is not where near as cool as Ace (or 11 you could be Stranger Things)

US Open Sectional Qualification is going on now.
8,602 went for 500 spots for local qualification to go to sectional.
927 are trying for 75 spots to go with the 75 exempt.

Folks trying to qualify include
Dufner, Goosen, Harrington, Homa (won last month on the tour), Luke Donald, Pieters, Stricker, Varner III, and Westwood.

Bramlet, Vaughn Taylor, Denny McCarthy, and Billy Hurley III are playing not too far from my office

(Westwood already been eliminated)

Canada's favourite golfer!

nobody likes to hear anyone talk about shot by shot round...but a 57 in a tournament is impressive
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/27 ... ay-shot-57

sponsor exemption into the field and wins it on a 26 foot eagle putt on 18. Nice way to get a spot on the tour.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/27 ... a-tour-win