A non-majors Golf Thread for 2023 and beyond

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:44 am

Shirley wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:10 am The son of a high school classmate is one shot back and tied for 3rd after the first day of the US Junior Amateur Open. His dad was a really good golfer too, but not that good.

So Tiger did not go to WFS with you as Charlie was +12 yesterday.

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:49 am

wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:44 am
Shirley wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:10 am The son of a high school classmate is one shot back and tied for 3rd after the first day of the US Junior Amateur Open. His dad was a really good golfer too, but not that good.
So Tiger did not go to WFS with you as Charlie was +12 yesterday.

Ha, I forgot that Charlie was in it. +12, huh? Not quite the chip off the old block as presented. I'm pretty sure Tiger won the Juniors three times before going on to win the Amateur three more times.

garyclark · Post by **garyclark** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:02 am

Really enjoyed this. Baseball should definitely copy this idea.

Thought you folks with a Memphis connection would enjoy this as well (can you tag Swampers in threads yet?)

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:29 am

garyclark wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:02 am

Really enjoyed this. Baseball should definitely copy this idea.

Thought you folks with a Memphis connection would enjoy this as well (can you tag Swampers in threads yet?)

I think the closest you can do is to quote them.

tennbengal wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:56 am

Wonder if that works. Bengal would need to have his notifications on too, I think.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:36 am

That guy in the stands with his granddaughter Kate reminded me of my grandfather. Same sense of humor. I remember my grandfather's affect being less cocky and more jokey than this guy, but he would have absolutely told us he'd have been 3 under.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:49 am

That worked. Also, Memphis. One slice o' that life, yes.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:58 pm

govmentchedda wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:36 am That guy in the stands with his granddaughter Kate reminded me of my grandfather. Same sense of humor. I remember my grandfather's affect being less cocky and more jokey than this guy, but he would have absolutely told us he'd have been 3 under.

Definitely my father's vibe watching golf, as well. He deadpan jokes that he'd have made every putt a guy misses. "Gotta play the break, Scottie!"

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:11 pm

The U.S. won the Presidents Cup

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:55 am

It's such a weird Cup given the Int'l team is just so cobbled together. They did pretty OK when paired up with fellow countrymen, but they absolutely fall apart when the get to single match play.

Coming into the final day down 4 was a huge mountain to climb.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:41 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:55 am It's such a weird Cup given the Int'l team is just so cobbled together. They did pretty OK when paired up with fellow countrymen, but they absolutely fall apart when the get to single match play.

Coming into the final day down 4 was a huge mountain to climb.

I think being paired up with fellow countrymen hurts them. 18.5 to 11.5 was a generous score. They were totally dominated.

Either the Internationals are handcuffed or the captains are idiots but this notion that same nationalities (Canadians, Koreans, Aussies) must play together is really dumb. I mean you're already less talented and you have to put maybe non-compatible players together because of nationality?
Something the Americans don't have to worry about.

The Europeans don't do this. Rahm does not have to play with Garcia, he's had many different partners, whatever suits the team and the situation best.

I've always said the internationals don't take this event seriously with their captains picks and their pairings so they keep losing, that's 10 in a row now.

They should really scrap it or one idea is to combine it with the LPGA, 6 men, 6 women, might be more competitive.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:51 am

I don’t know that it was total domination—most of the matches were pretty close. What was domination was how the Americans owned the finishing holes. Maybe Royal Montreal is just too comfortable to them. The away Presidents’ Cups are usually pretty close at least. The two that ended up as blowouts have been the two at Royal Montreal.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:28 am

Yeah, as of Saturday afternoon when I stopped watching for the day, it was pretty much even (I think the US was only up by 2) and at that time the INT were leading in the Foursome matches. I was surprised when saw the score had spread to a 4 point lead. If that had stayed at a 2 or maybe 2.5 lead, I think some of the US players might've buckled a bit.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:33 pm

It was also stupid to play at Royal Montreal again, Canada has so many nice courses.

All politics, the Canadian Open even, rarely goes west of Ontario.

I don't know if the internationals would ever really have an advantage, they're all PGA players too.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:56 am

Brackets for a championship will be a good change.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/43 ... ampionship

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:55 am

Anyone catch the TGL stuff? I was mildly intrigued. It was a little slower than I expected at first but the players seemed to speed up. I think it lasted 2 hours, but they need to try to get that down to 90 minutes and then hire me to do the pregame show for 30 minutes a week.

It's still kinda janky them hitting into a screen like what I used ten years ago in a bar, except larger, but the computer part looked like it was still stuck back then. I wasn't amazed by the graphics and some of the holes were, well, corny. But the players seemed to be having fun, and I could see it catching footing as a Tuesday NIght Golf kinda thing.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:18 am

I tuned in for about 10 minutes. It was... weird. Not bad, just something where I wasn't really sure what was going on (I dipped in about 1 hour into the program.)

That's the thing we forget about the sports we've been watching all our lives... There's a familiarity that makes it incredibly easy to just drop in and check out what's happening.

I did like the energy of the venue and the players sure seemed like they were both having fun and taking it seriously. Now I just need to show up at the beginning of one of them to understand the format.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:53 am

The basics are:

- 3 player teams. 15 total holes

- First 9 holes are "threesomes" which is basically 3-person alternate shot. On hole 1, Player A tees off, B, hits approach, C take putt, etc. Then player B starts hole 2 no matter who made last stroke and you play in the same order, C would hit 2nd, A 3rd. Hole Three Player C tees of - so on and so forth for that part. Each hole is worth one point, excepting one thing I'll point out about the "hammer delivered by FedEx".

- Last 6 holes, each player plays two holes, but they do play them in Order. So on 10, A player goes up against other A player. On 11, B players, then continue and each player will each play 2 holes heads up against their counterpart. Each still worth 1 point.

- The only reason something might be worth more than 1 is when a team uses "the Hammer delivered by FedEx" and that doubles the point value. You can use the hammer at any time you are in possession of it, and one team starts with possession but I am not sure if it's a coin toss or what I must have missed that. It's like pressing in your weekend game. If the opponent accepts the hammer, the points double. You can decline "the hammer delivered by FedEx", but you automatically lose the hole, but that strategy might work at some points. Once "the hammer delivered by FedEx" is played against your team, it becomes yours to play a la the possession arrow in bball.

- One more thing about "the Hammer delivered by FedEx": if the team in possession uses "the Hammer delivered by FedEx" before the TEE shot, the other team must accept and the hole starts off worth 2 points. BUT, then it reverts to the usual "the Hammer delivered by Fedex" play as described above. So the team that accepted it on the tee, if they hit a great shot and the other team gets in trouble, can play "the Hammer Delivered by FedEx" and make the hole worth 4 points! I think.

Most points at end wins. There's no theoretical upper limit for scores except as determined by the strokes taken and the number of "the Hammer delivered by FedEx"s played during the match. Last night was 9-2 I think, so there were halves, which of course count as 0, but they don't carry over a la Skins game.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:55 am

Super clear and easy to understand for the casual fan they’re trying to attract.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:56 am

brian wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:55 am Super clear and easy to understand for the casual fan they’re trying to attract.

I kind of made it even harder to understand once I realized what I was doing, so I just went with it.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:00 am

The hammer thing... Confusing, though I'm sure once you see it put into play a few times it will become clear?

The other stuff makes perfect sense.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:03 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:00 am The hammer thing... Confusing, though I'm sure once you see it put into play a few times it will become clear?

The other stuff makes perfect sense.

Well, maybe. Because I'm not sure they players know how to use it ("the Hammer delivered by FedEx") strategically yet. But if a team with a good lead has it ("the Hammer delivered by FedEx") there's value in not playing it("the Hammer delivered by FedEx") .

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:05 am

I think those guys are so used to playing wild, convoluted money games when they are out fucking around... They'll noodle through the HDBFE quickly.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:13 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:05 am I think those guys are so used to playing wild, convoluted money games when they are out fucking around... They'll noodle through the HDBFE quickly.

you lost me.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:22 am

Hammer Delivered By FedEx

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:24 am

Horny Dudes Beating For Ejaculation.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:25 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:22 am Hammer Delivered By FedEx

I really didn't think this joke was gonna miss. Expected more like what Mister D said.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:27 am

A_B wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:53 am The basics are...3...holes...threesomes...which is basically 3-person alternate shot...On hole...Player A...hits...C...Then player B starts...t.o...stroke and...play in the...C...A 3rd...Hole...hammer..ed by F.ing in your...a...You can decline...the...F...b.y...s.a.Fe...wor.d...There's no theoretical upper limit for...strokes taken and the number of...Fs......Last night was 9...I think...i..of course count as 0...

I'm supposed to be working!

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:28 am

I watched for a couple of minutes, enough to see what the hydraulics under the greens looked like but not to see how they actually played out during the game. But that seemed neat. Until someone loses a foot.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:28 am

rass wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:27 am
A_B wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:53 am The basics are...3...holes...threesomes...which is basically 3-person alternate shot...On hole...Player A...hits...C...Then player B starts...t.o...stroke and...play in the...C...A 3rd...Hole...hammer..ed by F.ing in your...a...You can decline...the...F...b.y...s.a.Fe...wor.d...There's no theoretical upper limit for...strokes taken and the number of...Fs......Last night was 9...I think...i..of course count as 0...
I'm supposed to be working!

This made it all worth it.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:33 am

A_B wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:25 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:22 am Hammer Delivered By FedEx
I really didn't think this joke was gonna miss. Expected more like what Mister D said.

You guys know I miss some of your high-level shit.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:41 am

Impressed by Rass' effort level there. We're back to "even par" after him not waving when I drove up next to him that time.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:55 am

I had no idea this was happening and assumed a basketball game would be on ESPN, so I stumbled upon the beginning. The instructions on TV (and by AB) had a big "let's just start the fucking game and we'll figure it out" vibe going on.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:50 pm

mister d wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:41 am Impressed by Rass' effort level there. We're back to "even par" after him not waving when I drove up next to him that time.

Yeah, I was ignoring you. Did you find the little surprise I left under your chassis?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:05 pm

Giff wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:55 am I had no idea this was happening and assumed a basketball game would be on ESPN, so I stumbled upon the beginning. The instructions on TV (and by AB) had a big "let's just start the fucking game and we'll figure it out" vibe going on.

I could have gone on for pages!

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:01 am

Flipped on the TGL to see Tiger and team throw the Hammer by Fedex down 3-0 after LA put one in a fairway bunker. Tiger rips a nice drive, LA puts the ball nicely back into the fairway, and the Kisner came up short to the green and ended up in the water. I was hoping Tiger cut him from the team right at that moment. You know competitive fire, but Tiger pushed a putt left and lost the hole. Down 5-0 I stopped watching. Apparently later in the round kisner out of the bunker hit the pin hard which caused everyone to laugh. Tiger was down 10-1 at the time.

New soft Tiger is not one that interest me. Old School I will break my club over your head is what this needs.

In comparison you see the psychotic competitive behavior of Lance Armstrong in neither everything he does since retiring. Challenging George to a mountain bike race, weightlifting competitions, golf, cooking injury worse than yours, etc. Just strange to see the transition of Tiger.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:08 am

Maybe Armstrong is psychotically desperate for attention and Tiger isn't?

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:23 pm

rass wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:08 am Maybe Armstrong is psychotically desperate for attention and Tiger isn't?

Not attention, just wired a certain way. Like MJ and his drive to win the White Marlin Open or betting (and rigging) on luggage coming out first. There is just a killer instinct in certain competitors that is part of what made them that great. Changing stripes of that tiger is hard.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:27 pm

it's also simply simulator golf

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:43 am

anyone have a WSJ subscription. Headline caught me
The Weird New Putting Technique That’s Driving the Golf World Completely Nuts
An unorthodox putting technique called AimPoint is taking over the sport. Not everyone is happy about it.

https://www.wsj.com/sports/golf/aimpoin ... 50759f75fc

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:54 am

For those without a WSJ sub...

https://golf.com/instruction/putting/ai ... 0-seconds/

But that article doesn't explain why anyone would be upset with the technique. Curious why it's problematic.