The Swamp

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:58 pm**

If you don't like winning. Lots of stats but don't recall a lot of wins. Possibly a bricklayer

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:07 pm**

He passed Alvin Adams and Walter Davis is in first. Would never have guessed either of those guys. I would have thought KJ, Tom Chambers or Steve Nash.

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:49 am**

I was thinking Eddie Johnson.

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:33 am**

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:58 pm If you don't like winning. Lots of stats but don't recall a lot of wins. Possibly a bricklayer

the same Shawn Marion who played in 109 playoff games and was an integral part of the 2011 Mavericks title team?

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:20 am**

you only get the top 250 here.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... eer_p.html

Marion is tied for 128th all time in playoff games. Is there a better player (in top 250 but anyone with better stats...) with less playoff games? id chalk up all I see to shortened playoffs

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:32 am**

An excuse to mention Moses Malone

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:34 am**

Ignoring that its a terrible metric for individual players ... there are several dozen HoFers below him including contemporaries like Mutombo, Mourning, etc. Oscar Robertson is T-234 and everyone above him isn't from the expanded era.

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:08 pm**

Marion was best case Ben Simmons and his biggest flaw when it comes to the playoffs was simply being the 2nd or 3rd best player on teams that didn't have Kobe, Shaq, or Duncan

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:09 pm**

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:20 am you only get the top 250 here.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... eer_p.html

Marion is tied for 128th all time in playoff games. Is there a better player (in top 250 but anyone with better stats...) with less playoff games? id chalk up all I see to shortened playoffs

you said this

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:58 pm If you don't like winning. Lots of stats but don't recall a lot of wins. Possibly a bricklayer

Shawn Marion played on eight 50-win teams

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:24 pm**

Im probably wrong about the winning. Just didnt remember him as doing a bunch of it or else I would have thought of him in the past 15 years.

Still, would somebody please post a vid of this mans jumper.

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:29 pm**

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:24 pm Im probably wrong about the winning. Just didnt remember him as doing a bunch of it or else I would have thought of him in the past 15 years.

Still, would somebody please post a vid of this mans jumper.

nsfw

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:38 pm**

Higher career 3P% than Michael "Air" Jordan ; )

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:42 pm**

Yes, but what about his +/-?

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:59 pm**

Pretty suspect that +/- only starts on basketball-reference in 1996-97, right?

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:22 pm**

Russian spies have infiltrated webmasters

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:46 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:38 pm Higher career 3P% than Michael "Air" Jordan ; )

3-pointers got much more highly valued by coaches and GMs in the years that came after 1 BC. (Before Curry)

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:54 pm**

The need to make them when you actually shoot them presumably hasn't changed. (Also the line moved in) (Also it was a funny comparison)

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:18 pm**

I was Rass'ing. A throwback joke.

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:18 pm**

Never said he couldn't hit them. But Marion's shot was just fugly. It amazed me whenever it went in (which it did at a surprisingly good clip).

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:03 pm**

That was cool.

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:57 pm**

The King stay the King.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:13 pm**

So Golden State signed Pat Spencer to a two-way contract. Not normally something to note, but Pat was the Heisman equivalent in lacrosse for Loyola College. Took one year playing B1G hoops at Northwestern and has been grinding in the G-league for 2 years (last year he got hurt and cut his season short). Not a lot of NBA talent from Boys Latin.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:35 pm**

Did the Dubs have Belichick in as a consultant?

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:39 pm**

I know what Anunoby is going to add when he’s back but I have no idea if Randle is going to be a positive or a negative or what. If it’s the former, Knicks are a real legit contender.

Posted: **Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:45 am**

I think the fear with Randle if he comes back is reinjuring that shoulder. I hope he doesn't need surgery, but feel that it could be the ultimate outcome if he comes back and reinjures it.

Posted: **Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:33 pm**

My shoulder situation isn’t analogous to Julius Randle. And I am certainly far from being any professional athlete. But, the thought of a guy playing professional basketball with a fucked up shoulder seems crazy to me.

Get the surgery, do the PT rehab, and come back strong next season.

Posted: **Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:05 pm**

Was kind of surprised to learn the Clippers have a winning record against the Lakers at Staples/Crypto Center.

Posted: **Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:17 pm**

brian wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:05 pm Was kind of surprised to learn the Clippers have a winning record against the Lakers at Staples/Crypto Center.

Home court advantage.

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:31 am**

I gotta say, I am a little surprised that Wembenyama has been as good as he has so soon. Holmgren too. I guess when you don't have to be stuck in the paint the body mass isn't as big of an issue, and height covers up a lot of faults.

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:22 am**

Players like Wembanyama and Jokic are kind of an end result (not an actual end, obviously) of how the European style of skill development without regard for size helps them become dominant forces. The focus on "little man" skills transforms bigger players into unicorns.

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:12 am**

Agree with this. Counterpoint. Does the USA (or the world) have the ability to ever produce Shaq again? I refuse to believe there is no place on an NBA Finals team for diesel.

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:24 am**

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:12 am Agree with this. Counterpoint. Does the USA (or the world) have the ability to ever produce Shaq again? I refuse to believe there is no place on an NBA Finals team for diesel.

I suspect that we'll see a Shaq-like big man at some point in the near future. As teams go smaller/skinnier someone with true strength and post skill would likely mop up. I guess Embiid is kind of like this, actually. And when he's healthy (it's rare), he's nearly unstoppable.

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:29 am**

Tough sledding for a true big guy today. If a team shot and made threes at the same rate as they do now against any of Shaq's Lakers, they would have won by 20 points a game. Andre Drummond is barely playable. Giannis is probably the closest comp and they had to go get a guy to make a shot down the stretch.

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:23 pm**

Celtics and warriors not playing the same sport

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:30 pm**

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:23 pm Celtics and warriors not playing the same sport

Lolz. Nor are the Cavs apparently.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:37 pm**

Ryan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:29 am Tough sledding for a true big guy today. If a team shot and made threes at the same rate as they do now against any of Shaq's Lakers, they would have won by 20 points a game. Andre Drummond is barely playable. Giannis is probably the closest comp and they had to go get a guy to make a shot down the stretch.

If Mitchell Robinson were born in 1968 rather than 1998, he’s in the hall of fame.

Posted: **Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:18 pm**

Well my favorite Rocket looks like he majorly fucked up his knee and/or ankle. Fuck.

Posted: **Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:27 pm**

“My ankle’s fucked up bro” compared to what I’d say which is [uncomfortably loud and pathetic sobbing].

Posted: **Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:41 pm**

I like how the Knicks and Sixers all heard the Gen Xer complaints that the NBA isn’t like it was in the 90s and did their very best to recreate the experience.

Posted: **Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:03 am**

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:41 pm I like how the Knicks and Sixers all heard the Gen Xer complaints that the NBA isn’t like it was in the 90s and did their very best to recreate the experience.

The Twitter explosion of "I watched some 90s games and it proved that Jordan sucked" was wild the last week.

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