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P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:43 pm

Acceptable for picnics and tailgating. Any self-respecting restaurant uses the glass bottles.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:56 pm

I'm trying to picture the type of restaurant that's too fancy for plastic bottles but also necessitates ketchup.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:58 pm

Like, anyplace where you're spending more than $10 for a burger.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:59 pm

Five Gentlemen

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:02 pm

TGIFridays.

Post by **Sabo** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:02 pm

sancarlos wrote:
Johnny Carwash wrote:Who the fuck signed off on phasing out traditional-shaped ketchup bottles in favor of the ones that open on the bottom? When did this happen?
1. Eliminates the issue of that watery stuff that collects at the top.
2. Eliminates the issue of trying to get it flowing when you first open the bottle.
What is your problem with this positive advancement?

1. No, it doesn't. If you store the bottle bottom-side up, then watery crap still comes out first.

2. It also requires more force to get the ketchup to flow, and frequently dispenses more than I want.

Get off my lawn.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:05 pm

In-N-Out, But Slowly OK?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:07 pm

Shake Gently Shack.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:19 pm

Sabo wrote:
sancarlos wrote:
Johnny Carwash wrote:Who the fuck signed off on phasing out traditional-shaped ketchup bottles in favor of the ones that open on the bottom? When did this happen?
1. Eliminates the issue of that watery stuff that collects at the top.
2. Eliminates the issue of trying to get it flowing when you first open the bottle.
What is your problem with this positive advancement?
1. No, it doesn't. If you store the bottle bottom-side up, then watery crap still comes out first.

2. It also requires more force to get the ketchup to flow, and frequently dispenses more than I want.

Get off my lawn.

1. Why the fuck would you store it bottom side up?

2. More force than pounding on the bottom of a bottle and ending up with ketchup all over everything? Methinks not. Just squeeze the bottle, for chrissakes.

And the controversy rages onward...

Post by **Sabo** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:22 pm

sancarlos wrote:
Sabo wrote:
sancarlos wrote:
Johnny Carwash wrote:Who the fuck signed off on phasing out traditional-shaped ketchup bottles in favor of the ones that open on the bottom? When did this happen?
1. Eliminates the issue of that watery stuff that collects at the top.
2. Eliminates the issue of trying to get it flowing when you first open the bottle.
What is your problem with this positive advancement?
1. No, it doesn't. If you store the bottle bottom-side up, then watery crap still comes out first.

2. It also requires more force to get the ketchup to flow, and frequently dispenses more than I want.

Get off my lawn.
1. Why the fuck would you store it bottom side up?

2. More force than pounding on the bottom of a bottle and ending up with ketchup all over everything. Methinks not.

And the controversy rages onward...

1. Because it's the widest part of the bottle. With most people, when you store things upright, you put them with the widest side down so it's less likely to fall over. Or does gravity not exist in California?

2. Actually, with a glass Heinz bottle, you're supposed to smack the part of the bottle that curves at the neck. That's much more effective at getting the ketchup to move than spanking the bottom.

Seriously ... get the F off my lawn.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:24 pm

Do clevelanders not respect the sanctity of labels? The bottom is the top!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:26 pm

Sabo wrote:Because it's the widest part of the bottle. With most people, when you store things upright, you put them with the widest side down so it's less likely to fall over. Or does gravity not exist in California?

Are you sure someone didn't just put your old ketchup bottle in the fridge upside down? The bottom openers aren't top heavy.

Post by **Sabo** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:40 pm

mister d wrote:
Sabo wrote:Because it's the widest part of the bottle. With most people, when you store things upright, you put them with the widest side down so it's less likely to fall over. Or does gravity not exist in California?
Are you sure someone didn't just put your old ketchup bottle in the fridge upside down? The bottom openers aren't top heavy.

Seriously ... get the F off my lawn.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:44 pm

Sabo wrote:2. Actually, with a glass Heinz bottle, you're supposed to smack the part of the bottle that curves at the neck. That's much more effective at getting the ketchup to move than spanking the bottom.

A friend who is a western Pennsylvania native once gave a much more specific direction of what to do. Specifically, to tap on the "57" on the side of the bottle's neck.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:46 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:
Sabo wrote:2. Actually, with a glass Heinz bottle, you're supposed to smack the part of the bottle that curves at the neck. That's much more effective at getting the ketchup to move than spanking the bottom.
A friend who is a western Pennsylvania native once gave a much more specific direction of what to do. Specifically, to tap on the "57" on the side of the bottle's neck.

Wait, so just living where an iconic product is made makes you some kind of fucking expert?

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:49 pm

My goal after the explanation, if I recall correctly, was to say, "Are you fucking kidding me?", then switch topics as quickly as possible.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:49 pm

That's what I've always heard and how I've always done it.

Post by **Sabo** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:52 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:
Sabo wrote:2. Actually, with a glass Heinz bottle, you're supposed to smack the part of the bottle that curves at the neck. That's much more effective at getting the ketchup to move than spanking the bottom.
A friend who is a western Pennsylvania native once gave a much more specific direction of what to do. Specifically, to tap on the "57" on the side of the bottle's neck.

Yes, that's what I meant.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:44 pm

I'm ambivalent on the ketchup bottle thing.

But I will echo the nonsense that is the slight deathgrip you have to give to the bottle to actually dispense the ketchup which absolutely squirts out way too fucking much of it.

What's worse...drowning your burger in ketchup or dealing some water from the bottle?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:33 pm

The water

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:55 pm

Totally the water. I'd rather scrape nine gallons of ketchup off than deal with half a half a half a teaspoon of that water.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:41 pm

A_B wrote:Totally the water. I'd rather scrape nine gallons of ketchup off than deal with half a half a half a teaspoon of that water.

Shake. The. Bottle.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:43 pm

BSF21 wrote:
A_B wrote:Totally the water. I'd rather scrape nine gallons of ketchup off than deal with half a half a half a teaspoon of that water.

Shake. The. Bottle.

Oh i shake the shot out ofnkt.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:32 am

So...aren't bicyclists supposed to follow stop sign rules same as if they were a car? I about killed one the other day when I was making a right turn at a four way stop and a bicyclist blasted through the sign.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:49 am

Was s/he driving one of those missile bikes?

Post by **brian** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:51 am

A_B wrote:So...aren't bicyclists supposed to follow stop sign rules same as if they were a car? I about killed one the other day when I was making a right turn at a four way stop and a bicyclist blasted through the sign.

They're supposed to but they never, ever do.

ETA: Actually it varies on the road and if there are dedicated bike lanes, etc. but if for self-preservation if not anything they should. Bike riders here have a bizarre sense of entitlement despite getting run over on the regular, almost always accidentally because of high walls and blind spots in intersections.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:53 am

mister d wrote:Was s/he driving one of those missile bikes?

He was going pretty quick, but I didn't notice.

And I had a situation the other day where I was going straight at a 4 way stop on a fairly large street - one that has a bike lane even - and I stop, a cyclist blasts by me also going straight. I was in no danger of hitting him as we were both going straight but I did roll my window down and scream at him to obey stop signs as I went past. No clue if he heard me or if he had headphones in or whatever but I felt better.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:06 am

A_B wrote:
mister d wrote:Was s/he driving one of those missile bikes?
He was going pretty quick, but I didn't notice.

And I had a situation the other day where I was going straight at a 4 way stop on a fairly large street - one that has a bike lane even - and I stop, a cyclist blasts by me also going straight. I was in no danger of hitting him as we were both going straight but I did roll my window down and scream at him to obey stop signs as I went past. No clue if he heard me or if he had headphones in or whatever but I felt better.

Well if he had headphones on he was also violating the law. Just like behind the wheel you can't have headphones on (most states is is both, so you can do the one ear thing). I love when I see a driver with the very noticeable white ear buds and cords behind the wheel.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:11 am

I checked and it looks like in Kentucky at least bikes are supposed to follow all traffic laws. Idaho has a rule that they can yield at stop signs, which apparently was hot button enough that it has its own wikipedia page.

Post by **brian** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:07 am

A_B wrote:I checked and it looks like in Kentucky at least bikes are supposed to follow all traffic laws. Idaho has a rule that they can yield at stop signs, which apparently was hot button enough that it has its own wikipedia page.

In Nevada you have to yield for bikes even at stop signs in dedicated, painted bike lanes but those only exist mostly in the city center. Otherwise, the law is the same as Kentucky as far as I know.

ETA: In other words they can blow through stop signs if they're in a painted bike lane.

GoodKarma · Post by **GoodKarma** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:12 am

I got a ticket on my bike for running a stop sign in college. While the officer was writing the $50 ticket four other riders proceeded to blow right through the same sign. That was a good day for me.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:07 pm

A_B wrote:
mister d wrote:Was s/he driving one of those missile bikes?
He was going pretty quick, but I didn't notice.

And I had a situation the other day where I was going straight at a 4 way stop on a fairly large street - one that has a bike lane even - and I stop, a cyclist blasts by me also going straight. I was in no danger of hitting him as we were both going straight but I did roll my window down and scream at him to obey stop signs as I went past. No clue if he heard me or if he had headphones in or whatever but I felt better.

That bolded part matters. If he didn't create a danger, what's your beef? Yell at that other guy.

Around here cyclists obey 4-way stops, when cars are present, 90% of the time? But it's the other ten percent that infuriates.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:20 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:
A_B wrote:
mister d wrote:Was s/he driving one of those missile bikes?
He was going pretty quick, but I didn't notice.

And I had a situation the other day where I was going straight at a 4 way stop on a fairly large street - one that has a bike lane even - and I stop, a cyclist blasts by me also going straight. I was in no danger of hitting him as we were both going straight but I did roll my window down and scream at him to obey stop signs as I went past. No clue if he heard me or if he had headphones in or whatever but I felt better.
That bolded part matters. If he didn't create a danger, what's your beef? Yell at that other guy.

Around here cyclists obey 4-way stops, when cars are present, 90% of the time? But it's the other gen percent that infuriates.

My beef is he didn't obey the law.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:04 pm

But lots of people disobey the law.

I think it's the feeling that the biker is getting away with something that causes a lot of resentment - like being stopped in freeway traffic while a motorcycle drives up between the cars. It just drives me nuts, but it really wouldn't make me any better off if the motorcycle waited in line with the rest of us.

If I'm riding and I get to a situation where traffic is stopped, I just get into the middle of lane and do the same as the cars do. But I will also try, if possible, to avoid stopping, since it is a pain to unclip from the pedals and to give up my momentum.

That being said, if a biker blows through a stop sign across your path, making you jam on your brakes or risking an accident, then he's being an asshole.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:05 pm

I get it. You're a cyclist. It didn't matter that time. I bet thaty isn't wh only time he did something similar. I'm ok to disagree

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:14 pm

[+] spoiler: AB is drunk!

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:25 pm

Not at all. Just a really bAd phone typist. Which I'm on be record about. Just like my stop sign pet peeve.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:35 pm

Oh sor. Ry I did not realize That i dont always post on week. ends

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:09 pm

I think a part of the issue is that the cyclist who screams his/her head off at your traffic infraction is the same one who blows through the stop sign without giving a shit about the cars already stopped at the intersection. If you want to ride in the street and be treated "like a car", you need to act "like a car", as well.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:13 pm

A_B wrote:
Steve of phpBB wrote:
A_B wrote:
mister d wrote:Was s/he driving one of those missile bikes?
He was going pretty quick, but I didn't notice.

And I had a situation the other day where I was going straight at a 4 way stop on a fairly large street - one that has a bike lane even - and I stop, a cyclist blasts by me also going straight. I was in no danger of hitting him as we were both going straight but I did roll my window down and scream at him to obey stop signs as I went past. No clue if he heard me or if he had headphones in or whatever but I felt better.
That bolded part matters. If he didn't create a danger, what's your beef? Yell at that other guy.

Around here cyclists obey 4-way stops, when cars are present, 90% of the time? But it's the other gen percent that infuriates.
My beef is he didn't obey the law.

Do you yell at every car that makes a rolling stop? I'd get hoarse.