The Swamp

Posted: **Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:24 pm**

Deadspin is wrong and its just a coincidence that the only two major professional sports with an age limit are the two that generate insane amateur revenue.

Posted: **Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:53 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:24 pm Deadspin is wrong and its just a coincidence that the only two major professional sports with an age limit are the two that generate insane amateur revenue.

It’s also a total coincidence that they are the two major sports that are primarily played by black athletes. Surely people who are bothered by “one and done” basketball players at Kentucky and Duke felt the same way when Jordan Speith left Texas after his freshman year to go pro.

Posted: **Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:18 pm**

BSF21 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:13 pm I didn't watch a minute of this last night but when you live in the midwest, apparently what that game amounted to was: "SEE??? NOTRE DAME TOTALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PLAYOFF! WE DIDN'T GIVE UP THAT MANY POINTS TO CLEMSON11!!111"

You are far enough away. Try living under the shadow of Touchdown Jesus.

Posted: **Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:00 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:24 pm Deadspin is wrong and its just a coincidence that the only two major professional sports with an age limit are the two that generate insane amateur revenue.

Those rules are put in place by the pro leagues, not the NCAA.

Posted: **Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:54 pm**

Webster's dictionary defines symbiosis as ...

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:57 am**

Well, obviously the NCAA likes the rule keeping their players at school, but they'd have no recourse if the NFL changed their mind. I'm not really sure what leverage the NCAA has to make the NFL conform to their wants. The rule was put in place by the NFL to protect itself from itself (just like the NBA's one-year rule).

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:38 pm**

BSF21 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:13 pm I didn't watch a minute of this last night but when you live in the midwest, apparently what that game amounted to was: "SEE??? NOTRE DAME TOTALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PLAYOFF! WE DIDN'T GIVE UP THAT MANY POINTS TO CLEMSON11!!111"

that's the overreaction to the overreaction that Notre Dame shouldn't have been in the playoff. Undefeated Notre Dame wasn't getting in at the expense of an Ohio State team that lost to Purdue by 29.

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:40 pm**

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:57 am Well, obviously the NCAA likes the rule keeping their players at school, but they'd have no recourse if the NFL changed their mind. I'm not really sure what leverage the NCAA has to make the NFL conform to their wants. The rule was put in place by the NFL to protect itself from itself (just like the NBA's one-year rule).

Right, and the reason they can put in rules like that is because they have the NCAA running a very popular, profitable and non-threatening showcase for them.

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:03 pm**

Yeah, I mean you guys have pretty much covered it, but another way to think about NCAAB/F is that they are running highly profitable minor/developmental leagues. The NFL doesn't have to invest anything and they get players with some level of showcase. As was mentioned, without that you'd have teams plucking dudes out of high school and then parking them for years on practice squads (NFL) or shipping them off to gawdawful locations in the D-League.

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:20 pm**

I think an interesting sidebar to this discussion is the fact that an amateur baseball player can go back into the draft each year of the four that follow his high school graduation, if he doesn't sign. In hockey, they draft at age 18 and hold the rights for four years, and, unlike other sports, signed players can still play junior hockey. If unsigned after four years, they become a free agent (a la Jimmy Vesey and Will Butcher). Of course in basketball and football, if they sign with an agent, their college career is over.

(If I am incorrect on any of the above, please correct me.)

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:26 pm**

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:20 pm I think an interesting sidebar to this discussion is the fact that an amateur baseball player can go back into the draft each year of the four that follow his high school graduation, if he doesn't sign. In hockey, they draft at age 18 and hold the rights for four years, and, unlike other sports, signed players can still play junior hockey. If unsigned after four years, they become a free agent (a la Jimmy Vesey and Will Butcher). Of course in basketball and football, if they sign with an agent, their college career is over.

(If I am incorrect on any of the above, please correct me.)

I thought baseball you had to stay a certain amount of time if you went to college.

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:31 pm**

Yeah, that's not true for baseball. Its HS and then, if you don't go JUCO, a 3 year wait.

Posted: **Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:36 pm**

Only thing to add is in hockey signed players can also play in the NCAA. They can also re-enter the draft after 2 years if they don't sign. As long as they don't sign with an agent.

That change is relatively new (sometime after 2000) and it was a HUGE deal. Total game changer allowing college hockey to be a much more viable alternative to junior hockey.

Posted: **Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:21 pm**

Hurts is hanging out with Locksly at the Terps basketball game tonight

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:31 pm**

I'm not the tiniest bit worked up about Trump feeding Wendy's, McDonald's and Burger King to Clemson but I do think it is funny as hell.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:34 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:19 pm**

This is a pretty good take really.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:29 pm**

I’m torn between that take and being a college kid and getting a steak or something I didn’t usually get.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:33 pm**

They play football at Clemson. They get to eat what ever the hell they want.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:41 pm**

Yeah, I remember the one or two times per year when a class or someone's parent would take us out in college and I was always like "please, pick McDonald's". That was the real treat.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:53 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:41 pm Yeah, I remember the one or two times per year when a class or someone's parent would take us out in college and I was always like "please, pick McDonald's". That was the real treat.

Well to be clear the location would alter the calculus a bit.lesser meal at White House not a bad thing.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:58 pm**

Don't make me play the "what if Obama ordered Dominos for a national champion" card.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:59 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:58 pm Don't make me play the "what if Obama ordered Dominos for a national champion" card.

Well I’m considering it isn’t the current president just generic idea of White House.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:12 pm**

A_B wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:29 pm I’m torn between that take and being a college kid and getting a steak or something I didn’t usually get.

This. I may have been a bit different with my upbringing, but fuck McDs at the WH.

(My mom was the maitre de at one of the nicest restaurants in Ann Arbor when I was 6-7-8 years old and I'd come in and read books and they'd feed me amazing French food and dote over me. Weird but awesome childhood store #122.)

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:15 pm**

OK you guys realize this isn’t like a state dinner. It’s just like appetizers and whatnot like during the social hour before a wedding or company event. Probably a bit nicer than the fare at the Lippman bar mitzvah but no one was being denied steak here.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:16 pm**

Its either insulting or worse.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:16 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:58 pm Don't make me play the "what if Obama ordered Dominos for a national champion" card.

Trump card!

Ok, I'll just be over here looking at the TV of a sports game I don't really care about, with appropriate facial expressions and low key vocal expressions.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:18 pm**

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:15 pm OK you guys realize this isn’t like a state dinner. It’s just like appetizers and whatnot like during the social hour before a wedding or company event. Probably a bit nicer than the fare at the Lippman bar mitzvah but no one was being denied steak here.

I just wanted to relive my time at The Earle and the steak tournedeos and red wine mushroom reduction sauce... Holy shit... that was just good fucking good man.

*snaps clear* Clemosn?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:19 pm**

Hey guys, I bet he called and asked for "the usual" hahahahahahaha!!!

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:06 am**

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:18 pm
brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:15 pm OK you guys realize this isn’t like a state dinner. It’s just like appetizers and whatnot like during the social hour before a wedding or company event. Probably a bit nicer than the fare at the Lippman bar mitzvah but no one was being denied steak here.
I just wanted to relive my time at The Earle and the steak tournedeos and red wine mushroom reduction sauce... Holy shit... that was just good fucking good man.

I was really hoping the restaurant you’re talking about was Weber’s.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:52 am**

Sabo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:06 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:18 pm
brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:15 pm OK you guys realize this isn’t like a state dinner. It’s just like appetizers and whatnot like during the social hour before a wedding or company event. Probably a bit nicer than the fare at the Lippman bar mitzvah but no one was being denied steak here.
I just wanted to relive my time at The Earle and the steak tournedeos and red wine mushroom reduction sauce... Holy shit... that was just good fucking good man.
I was really hoping the restaurant you’re talking about was Weber’s.

When shit got REALLY fancy, we went to Victors.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:47 am**

I'm not as concerned about the food as I am the temperature. I love me some Filet-o-Fish, I'm not going to lie. But I guarantee you those things are cold.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:34 pm**

A lot of the attacks on Twitter were frankly really, really classist and not a good look. I get the impulse to make fun of the situation but if your take is veering towards (or is) "people who eat fast food are trash" you're doing it wrong.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:46 pm**

"Work leaders (who pride themselves on their enormous wealth) who serve fast food to college students but wouldn't dare serve it to another world leader are trash" works for me.

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:19 pm**

President Trump’s extravagant, $3,000, 300-sandwich celebration of Clemson University

Update: Some people have noted that the McDonald’s sandwiches and nuggets would be on the 2-for-$5 menu. If so, the total drops to $2,437.11. It also explains why there are so many more McDonald’s products than Burger King.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:03 pm**

Oh wow. Hurts to Oklahoma.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:34 am**

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:03 pm Oh wow. Hurts to Oklahoma.

Eh, god bless him. I wish him a fantastically successful regular season.

Posted: **Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:39 pm**

The problem here isn't necessarily the penalties, it's that UNC got nothing for a cheating scam which was way worse.

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:06 pm**

So the Terps won a 4-star QB recruiting battle against FSU. Wow.

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:10 pm**

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:06 pm So the Terps won a 4-star QB recruiting battle against FSU. Wow.

FSU is a disaster at the moment

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