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Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:36 pm
by Rams Fanny
I feel compelled to add that if there was no rift and Gallant still had the support of the players, then this move is inexcusable. They are three points out of first place. This is at best a parallel move as far as what to expect for final results. If this team is going to start behaving with the worst aspects of Steinbrenner in late 70s-80s, continued ardent fandom will be difficult.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:51 pm
by mister d
But they're also sitting outside of the playoffs. West is tight.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:53 pm
by brian
It's definitely an all or nothing kind of move. If it fails, they're definitely pissing off a huge chunk of the fanbase. If it works, all is forgiven like any other market.
ETA: I wouldn't say I agree with the move in general but I appreciate the impulse to swing for the fences. I've not rooted for a lot of teams that would make a big balls move like this.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:08 pm
by brian
Seeing DeBoer wearing VGK gear is going to take some getting used to.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:32 am
by Giff
brian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:08 pm
Seeing DeBoer wearing VGK gear is going to take some getting used to.
It'd be really awesome if NHL coaches dressed like the players like baseball managers do.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:37 am
by DSafetyGuy
degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:28 am
I could see Gallant going to Detroit.
Every article in a Detroit paper about the firing mentions that Gallant and Yzerman were linemates and are still very good friends.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:13 pm
by degenerasian
the latest 31 thoughts podcast starts with the Gallant firing.
https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thought ... same-time/
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:04 pm
by mister d
The latest Georgiev chatter has me thinking we could get somewhere between more and a lot more than I was expecting.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:06 pm
by brian
mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:04 pm
The latest Georgiev chatter has me thinking we could get somewhere between more and a lot more than I was expecting.
What's the speculation on price?
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:29 pm
by mister d
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:31 pm
by mister d
And it might just be fan speculation, but a lot of NYR twitter is wondering if they'd try to go really big and pair Georgiev with DeAngelo. He's only signed a one year deal and his points numbers will get him serious paid. Even if they wouldn't, they have Trouba long term and Fox as a better all around player, so DeAngelo would be a very highly paid 3RD / PP specialist. Probably untenable in the cap era. Also, he's a piece of shit.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:40 pm
by brian
San Jose seems like a team that would be an obvious fit for a young goalie with a couple of RFA years left. They could dump Dell and go with Jones/Georgiev (or vice/versa more likely) until it gets cheaper to buyout Jones (or until his play improves). Not sure what they have to offer though.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:09 pm
by govmentchedda
Jack Squat
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:17 pm
by wlu_lax6
Ovi has been on fire the last few games. And where he is in his career you just keep seeing milestones, crazy stats, and folks he passes on stat lists.
But the one I read today on RMNB,
Hat Tricks Since 2005-06
Alex Ovechkin ....... 26
Avalanche ............... 24
Wild .......................... 19
Devils ....................... 19
Golden Knights .... 4
Plus Ovi moved ahead of Mario and tied Stevie Y
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:54 pm
by govmentchedda
He's really great. Even though he's tormented the Bolts at times, I still root for him unless he's playing us.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:35 am
by brian
I never thought anyone could touch Gretzky’s goals record but he could do it. It might be a part of another team though.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:36 pm
by Nonlinear FC
Yeah, he basically needs to average abt 40 goals a year for 5 years running. So, yeah, even if he hits a wall in 3 years, you'd think he could stretch out his career for another 4 or 5 years to take the record.
It's pretty remarkable to behold. Like you said LVbri, I never thought anyone would come close to Gretzky, not just bc the game has changed so much, but really because what he did was truly astounding at the time.
But Ovi really does keep playing at this level. Gretzky will always be the greatest because of his assist markers. But we are seeing a once in a generation player.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:54 am
by degenerasian
The hockey top 5 has always been Gretzky, Orr, Howe, Lemieux and Richard.
Do Crosby and Ovechkin pass these guys?
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:54 am
by mister d
I'm not the hockey guy a lot of you are, but I would have thought Crosby would be closer to that elite list where Ovechkin would be in "greatest scorer" conversations.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:56 am
by rass
I'm really interested in seeing how Sid vs Mario plays out in Pittsburgh. It's going to be hard to beat "bought and saved the franchise" in his post-playing career, but if he keeps playing at his current level for a couple of years, maybe wins another Cup, the on-ice argument could be interesting. Maybe if he also decides to stick around in Pittsburgh after he retires...
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:00 am
by degenerasian
The all star game was fun. Hertl should have won MVP. Pacioretty was a defenseman and two Flames and two Oilers hugging at the end was really weird.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:44 pm
by wlu_lax6
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:54 am
I'm not the hockey guy a lot of you are, but I would have thought Crosby would be closer to that elite list where Ovechkin would be in "greatest scorer" conversations.
Gretzky is great and Ovi is a great scorer, but Ovi is also a bigger physical presence/forechecker than #99. Nowhere near the passer.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:49 pm
by brian
degenerasian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:00 am
The all star game was fun. Hertl should have won MVP. Pacioretty was a defenseman and two Flames and two Oilers hugging at the end was really weird.
Forwards play some defense in Vegas, unlike Calgary, Edmonton and San Jose.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:45 pm
by mister d
wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:44 pmGretzky is great and Ovi is a great scorer, but Ovi is also a bigger physical presence/forechecker than #99. Nowhere near the passer.
Gretzky had so many assists he’s almost lapped the field. Crosby is sub-Gretzky, but his era-adjusted type.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:15 pm
by brian
Las Vegas’ AHL team is moving to...Las Vegas. Reportedly as soon as next season.
They’ll play in the 8500-seat Orleans Arena.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:02 am
by DSafetyGuy
brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:15 pm
Las Vegas’ AHL team is moving to...Las Vegas. Reportedly as soon as next season.
They’ll play in the 8500-seat Orleans Arena.
Guess business will pick up at that Irish pub not too far away from the Orleans.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:14 am
by degenerasian
Bat Flip!
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:48 am
by BSF21
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:04 am
by degenerasian
That'll teach you to trust the Oilers.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:21 pm
by govmentchedda
BSF21 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:48 am
Fucker blew my parlay.
Fucker kept pt 1 of mine alive (KC -1 is the other).
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:23 pm
by BSF21
degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:04 am
That'll teach you to trust the Oilers.
They were the flyer that made me the money. Didn't like any of the other games but TB and VAN were easy pickings. Figured EDM being at home was the edge there. fucking gambling.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:45 pm
by degenerasian
BSF21 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:23 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:04 am
That'll teach you to trust the Oilers.
They were the flyer that made me the money. Didn't like any of the other games but TB and VAN were easy pickings. Figured EDM being at home was the edge there. fucking gambling.
It should have been. Flames were coming off playing the Blues the night before as well. Slam dunk.
But the Oilers suck.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:58 am
by BSF21
Ovi had 1 shot in 53:50 last night.
Then he scored a natural hat trick.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:38 am
by Nonlinear FC
Weird game. LA really had it kind of locked up and then a nice feed from Oshie for the first, a weird rebound from Quick for the second, and an open netter
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:03 pm
by brian
VGK purchase the AHL San Antonio Rampage and will move the team to Las Vegas for the 2020-21 season. They'll play two years at the Orleans Arena while an arena is being built in Henderson. The AHL team will train at the arena in Henderson, while the NHL team will continue to train at their arena in Summerlin. Expected team name is Henderson Silver Knights.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:57 am
by Giff
brian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:03 pm
VGK purchase the AHL San Antonio Rampage and will move the team to Las Vegas for the 2020-21 season. They'll play two years at the Orleans Arena while an arena is being built in Henderson. The AHL team will train at the arena in Henderson, while the NHL team will continue to train at their arena in Summerlin. Expected team name is Henderson Silver Knights.
Weird. I was just in San Antonio. I saw someone wearing a Rampage shirt and thought to myself how much I'd love any kind of professional hockey in Houston.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:11 pm
by wlu_lax6
Giff wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:57 am
brian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:03 pm
VGK purchase the AHL San Antonio Rampage and will move the team to Las Vegas for the 2020-21 season. They'll play two years at the Orleans Arena while an arena is being built in Henderson. The AHL team will train at the arena in Henderson, while the NHL team will continue to train at their arena in Summerlin. Expected team name is Henderson Silver Knights.
Weird. I was just in San Antonio. I saw someone wearing a Rampage shirt and thought to myself how much I'd love any kind of professional hockey in Houston.
guess you did not get to many Sugarland Imperials before they moved to College Station (yeah junior hockey may not be pro)
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:31 pm
by Giff
No, but that is an awesome mascot for that town.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:50 pm
by rass
rass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:48 pm
rass wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:14 pmInjuries suck.
Re: 2019-2020 NHL Season
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:24 am
by rass
Could just double post the above since the Pens don’t make this trade if Guentzel is healthy.
UFA or not, the price on Kreider probably just went up, so you’re welcome NYR fans.