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Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 2:54 pm
by brian

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 2:57 pm
by Johnnie
The thread up to that point seemed to indicate that it wasn't certain. And I was linking everything, for context.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:10 pm
by govmentchedda
Johnnie wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 2:57 pm The thread up to that point seemed to indicate that it wasn't certain. And I was linking everything, for context.
Those texts were there right along with the video when I first saw it. What I'm saying is that I don't know that those texts make it certain. It really looks that way, but I also really want it to be true, which is why I'm skeptical.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 6:30 pm
by degenerasian
Here we go. Welcome to night 3, live from Chicago.

The police van is toast.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:07 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Exciting day in SLC ...

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:23 pm
by govmentchedda
Steve of phpBB wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 7:07 pm Exciting day in SLC ...
Nice to see John Rocker Sr.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:36 pm
by DaveInSeattle
govmentchedda wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 8:23 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 7:07 pm Exciting day in SLC ...
Nice to see John Rocker Sr.
I assume you are talking about this guy...


Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 9:22 pm
by EdRomero
tennbengal wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:22 am The MN gov and AG pretty clear that last night's violence in their area from those outside the state. Hearing similar comments from Detroit and Oakland. Whites causing the damage - not too far a stretch to make the connection to attempts by the white supremacists to spark something worse.
So Howard tweeted this:

I don't know what the percentages are and I'm sure there are a few troublemakers traveling just to be shitheads and cause chaos, but I'm wondering if pushing the story that this is all outside troublemakers is a way for politicians to minimize how pissed their citizens are. They'd rather believe that it's some troublemakers rather than it's many normally good citizen who are so enraged that they're losing control.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 9:26 pm
by DSafetyGuy
EdRomero wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 9:22 pm
tennbengal wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:22 am The MN gov and AG pretty clear that last night's violence in their area from those outside the state. Hearing similar comments from Detroit and Oakland. Whites causing the damage - not too far a stretch to make the connection to attempts by the white supremacists to spark something worse.
So Howard tweeted this:

I don't know what the percentages are and I'm sure there are a few troublemakers traveling just to be shitheads and cause chaos, but I'm wondering if pushing the story that this is all outside troublemakers is a way for politicians to minimize how pissed their citizens are. They'd rather believe that it's some troublemakers rather than it's many normally good citizen who are so enraged that they're losing control.
The article had somewhere around 80% from Minnesota, although it acknowledged problems with incomplete/inaccurate data (was of a certain time window, did not include reason for being placed in jail, etc.).

If anything, there are attempts to distract from police instigating violence by shooting rubber bullets, tear gas, etc. into peaceful crowds.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:59 am
by Johnnie

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 9:44 am
by Johnnie
Oh that's cool. Just shooting rubber bullets at people on their porch. Not terroristic at all.

This is what the 2nd Amendment is for.


Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 9:48 am
by mister d
The street sign in that pic is something.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:34 am
by Johnnie


And it just got worse.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:38 am
by Johnnie
Yooooo!!!


Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:45 am
by brian

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:46 am
by Joe K
Tons of right-wingers were posting a truncated version of that machete clip last night and claiming that it was store owner getting murdered by “thugs.” (Apparently the guy survived.)

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:14 pm
by brian
This is the fascists best shot at their Kristallnacht and Trump is taking the bait

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:20 pm
by mister d
Joe K wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 11:46 am Tons of right-wingers were posting a truncated version of that machete clip last night and claiming that it was store owner getting murdered by “thugs.” (Apparently the guy survived.)
If this is real, not only did he survive, but he’s fine and earned it:

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:36 pm
by Johnnie

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:29 pm
by L-Jam3

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:17 pm
by Joe K
mister d wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 12:20 pm
Joe K wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 11:46 am Tons of right-wingers were posting a truncated version of that machete clip last night and claiming that it was store owner getting murdered by “thugs.” (Apparently the guy survived.)
If this is real, not only did he survive, but he’s fine and earned it:
Looks like he protected his account now, but is that the Tweet that guy posted saying that he took his machete out to “protect a bar that I love”?

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:20 pm
by Joe K

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:03 pm
by degenerasian
Lol in the comments people think he said this today.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:49 pm
by cerrano
Johnnie wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 11:34 am

And it just got worse.
When you designate the Greatest Generation a “terrorist organization”, yeah, shit is bad.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:53 pm
by mister d
So glad to see this country will NOT stand for an organization explicitly dedicated to opposing fascism.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:50 pm
by DSafetyGuy
I guess Michael Jordan didn't care for all of the recent critiques.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:55 pm
by brian
DSafetyGuy wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 4:50 pm I guess Michael Jordan didn't care for all of the recent critiques.
What did he do?

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:01 pm
by Joe K
brian wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 4:55 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 4:50 pm I guess Michael Jordan didn't care for all of the recent critiques.
What did he do?

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:12 pm
by Pruitt
Retweeted by the president of the United States -


Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 8:19 pm
by brian
Fuckin' racist Cincinnati cops.


Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 8:25 pm
by DSafetyGuy

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 9:14 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Even conservative Mormon Dale Murphy is tweeting support for Floyd and BLM.

Edit: The whole thread is amazing.


Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 9:53 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Ken Jennings too.


Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:30 pm
by P.D.X.
Trump going into the bunker. Theatrics to draw attention to the antifa 'threat'?

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:39 pm
by mister d
Where can I bet on an unprompted tweet in the next 24 hours about he was not scared at all but the people around him forced him to go into hiding so he did it to appease them?

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 am
by tennbengal
Q going to the youth-led march here in Baltimore that organizes at 3:30 pm and starts from the convention center at 4:00. He's going with two of his african-american friends from school to stand and walk in support. I am at the office and will hold here as their ride home. I could say I am proud, and I am, but also frightened. It is all on such a knife's edge. So many spoiling for violence from the Cheeto to the police to the those who get off on it - there's going to be something touched off somewhere that's going to be Kent State bad. The white house and those who want to enforce their version of martial law want it sooo badly.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:16 am
by The Sybian
tennbengal wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 am Q going to the youth-led march here in Baltimore that organizes at 3:30 pm and starts from the convention center at 4:00. He's going with two of his african-american friends from school to stand and walk in support. I am at the office and will hold here as their ride home. I could say I am proud, and I am, but also frightened. It is all on such a knife's edge. So many spoiling for violence from the Cheeto to the police to the those who get off on it - there's going to be something touched off somewhere that's going to be Kent State bad. The white house and those who want to enforce their version of martial law want it sooo badly.
Damn. Good for you for letting him go, not sure I could give the green light to my kids. I'd want to, and maybe when they are older I could, but man, that is a tough call.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:30 am
by tennbengal
The Sybian wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:16 am
tennbengal wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 am Q going to the youth-led march here in Baltimore that organizes at 3:30 pm and starts from the convention center at 4:00. He's going with two of his african-american friends from school to stand and walk in support. I am at the office and will hold here as their ride home. I could say I am proud, and I am, but also frightened. It is all on such a knife's edge. So many spoiling for violence from the Cheeto to the police to the those who get off on it - there's going to be something touched off somewhere that's going to be Kent State bad. The white house and those who want to enforce their version of martial law want it sooo badly.
Damn. Good for you for letting him go, not sure I could give the green light to my kids. I'd want to, and maybe when they are older I could, but man, that is a tough call.
He's 18. I don't know how to bar him. He's right to want to stand and raise his voice. I should be too. But I am also so worried about the government and police response. We know how this goes.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:46 am
by The Sybian
tennbengal wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:30 am
The Sybian wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:16 am
tennbengal wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 am Q going to the youth-led march here in Baltimore that organizes at 3:30 pm and starts from the convention center at 4:00. He's going with two of his african-american friends from school to stand and walk in support. I am at the office and will hold here as their ride home. I could say I am proud, and I am, but also frightened. It is all on such a knife's edge. So many spoiling for violence from the Cheeto to the police to the those who get off on it - there's going to be something touched off somewhere that's going to be Kent State bad. The white house and those who want to enforce their version of martial law want it sooo badly.
Damn. Good for you for letting him go, not sure I could give the green light to my kids. I'd want to, and maybe when they are older I could, but man, that is a tough call.
He's 18. I don't know how to bar him. He's right to want to stand and raise his voice. I should be too. But I am also so worried about the government and police response. We know how this goes.
I get that you can't really bar him, but it sounds like you are supporting his decision (even if cautiously), and I respect that.

Re: The Important Sounds of Things Falling Apart

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:46 am
by tennbengal
I am. He knows my reservations, but I support him in this.