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degenerasian wrote:and the women's singles too? seems unfair that the US had to help Russia 3 times in return for just 1.
Not if the Americans weren't really good enough to win anything in the first place this time around. Or didn't think they could finish ahead of the Canadian pair without "help" (newspapers around the world thought the Canuck couple was better). Or the deal is that "you get the heavy medal haul this time, we get it in 2018 or some world championship thing or whatever".

And you cannot argue with the judges. Forget it! Because you are not arguing about sport you are arguing about art. And if you don't understand how some pixie that doesn't try anything particularly difficult and falls flat on her face still wins over someone who appeared daring and technically perfect, it's because YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLE COMPLEXITIES OF FIGYER SKATIN!
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Finally, at 9 am pacific tomorrow, something in the olympics worth setting the dvr for! USA vs. Canada in men's hockey! Might be unpatriotic of me to admit this, but mainly I'm rooting for the Sharks' players to do well. But also, um, USA!
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degenerasian wrote:and the women's singles too? seems unfair that the US had to help Russia 3 times in return for just 1.
Not if the Americans weren't really good enough to win anything in the first place this time around. Or didn't think they could finish ahead of the Canadian pair without "help" (newspapers around the world thought the Canuck couple was better). Or the deal is that "you get the heavy medal haul this time, we get it in 2018 or some world championship thing or whatever".

And you cannot argue with the judges. Forget it! Because you are not arguing about sport you are arguing about art. And if you don't understand how some pixie that doesn't try anything particularly difficult and falls flat on her face still wins over someone who appeared daring and technically perfect, it's because YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLE COMPLEXITIES OF FIGYER SKATIN!

That's just it though, the Americans didn't need any help. They have beaten the Canadians in everything for the last two years. Bad trade.

I wouldn't piss off the Koreans though, nobody on this earth cheats better than them. Roy Jones? World Cup 2002? The Russians will get theirs in 2018. They might be fed poisonous dog meat.
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But they may have felt they needed help pre-competition, back when the deals were struck. But who knows what the motivations were behind the scenes? The one thing we do know is that the result was determined before the skating.

And it is no accident that it is always the Russians in the middle of the horse trading, eh. And people mistakenly believe Russia does nothing for its gay community.

Who was the Russian that quite literally fell on his butt in Nagano and still got the gold medal in men's singles or whatever it's called? Kyukov or Kulov or something. And he finished the last minute or so of his routine with snow all over his ass while he was crying. But gold! The drama! The humanity! For sure. Presumably because he did everything else so much better than everyone else that completely wiping out while the world was watching didn't matter.
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Scottie, you might get a kick out of this.

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I found some transparency.

http://www.isuresults.com/results/owg20 ... Scores.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To summarize, Sotnikova beat Yuna Kim by about 5 points and most of that was because her skate was more difficult, including more triple jumps and a Lay Back spin that was ranked higher. The difficulty was enhanced because of the bonus points awarded for having jumps in the last half of the skate.

Also note that her stumble on the double toe was taken into account it's not a big deduction since the base rating wasn't high to begin with.

They were pretty much tied on Program Component Scores - basically the wow factor, taking into account choreography, interpretation, skills etc. This I don't really agree with since I thought Kim was more WOW but 8 of 8 judges disagree with me. It's hard to prove a scandal when all the judges are in agreement.

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I just had NBCSports lock up for the last 8 minutes or so of the Sweden v. Finland semi - that shit better not happen during the USA v. Canada game.

And I totally felt like a teenage girl tweeting the figure skating yesterday. I even watched some of the prime time coverage just to see how pissed off I'd get as Scott Hamilton and the Gang acted like they knew how everything was going to unfold.
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CNBC, flabergasted by how Americans haven't won any medals in speedskating, bring on the Dutch coach to ask 'how is it possible that the Dutch can dominate this sport?"

The coach tells Americans how it really is.

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That guy from CNBC is why the world hates Americans. I feel embarrassed, in a way, watching that.

And even if he's playing along and trying his best to troll it's still pretty lame and pathetic.
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degenerasian wrote:CNBC, flabergasted by how Americans haven't won any medals in speedskating, bring on the Dutch coach to ask 'how is it possible that the Dutch can dominate this sport?"

The coach tells Americans how it really is.

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No idea who that guy is but, damn, doesn't anyone at CNBC identify what a blowhard he is? Trying to school the Dutch about a sport the Dutch pretty much invented. Criminey.
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Scottie: this is why Alberta is better than BC.
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Heh. You don't have to tell me Alberta is better than BC (in every conceivable way). I've lived there. Twice! And I believe I read that the bars will be open here (a select few) but they aren't allowed to serve alcohol. Only in BC does that make any sense.

ETA: . . . the Stanley Cup riots must have a lot to do with that, no?
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Canada wins this Olympics.
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I wonder what the medal standings would look like if you threw out all of the rigged figure skating medals. It's such a liberal construct, mind you, that multiple countries can claim to have "won" the Olympics by either having the most gold, most total medals, most weighted value, blah blah blah. So deliberately vague it must have been designed by a Bettman.
howard wrote:Canada wins this Olympics.
This will be considered a medal sweep for Canada. There are only two sports Canadians care about; Curling and Hockey. Canada won gold in men's curling, women's curling, men's hockey and women's hockey. Nobody, and I mean nobody, gives a fuck about who won the cutesy snowboarding tricks. Canadians can't even tell you if Canada won a cutesy snowboarding medal in Vancouver 2010 let alone who would have won it.

Korea worked a "special needs" Black kid into their closing ceremonies spotlight? Just . . . why? Pandering to 0% of the population? Political correctness was non-existent in South Korea even a couple of years ago. The idea of "embracing diversity" in a country that is 99.99999% ethnic Korean is more than a bit absurd. That excludes the (entirely White) disposable 25,000 non-citizens teaching English.

Very pleased to see that Sochi avoided anything close to terrorism during the games. Or, better put, there were no significant political activities disrupting the event; no Dubrovka Theater, no Beslan schoolhouse. Idiot "pussy riot" doesn't count for anything other than giving a bored media something to do for a few minutes. Nobody gave a damn nor should they. Next time you see some asshole IQ-of-a-potato celeb praising those stupid bitches, bear in mind that "pussy riot" despises America and are hardcore Communists.

And, gee, wouldn't it be nice if ever-screeching socially inept activists could just shut the fuck up for a couple of weeks every four years or so.

The three Russian games mascots are the cutest olympic mascots ever. Possibly the best closing ceremonies (on the Russians' part) ever. Certainly puts Vancouver to shame as the laughingstock it was. The lighting on the exterior of the Bloshoy Ice Dome hockey rink, showing who is playing and what the score is, has to be one of the coolest venue features ever.

And now the "eternal flame" originating from a Bic cigarette lighter in 1976 Montreal gets passed to, for what it is worth, a very cool part of South Korea that is, contrary to what mediamorons tell you, not really anywhere close to the demilitarized zone separating North and South at all.
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And, gee, wouldn't it be nice if ever-screeching socially inept activists could just shut the fuck up for a couple of weeks every four years or so.

My best friend growing up was one of those disposable white English teachers, until he knocked up a Thai broad, now he is a disposal white English teacher in some backwater in Thailand.

Speaking of protests in Sochi, Colbert did a great piece featuring "totally not gay" Scott Thompson. No idea how much they exaggerated the trip to the protest zone, but it's hilarious.

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The Korean bit was pretty stale. Should have done K-Pop.
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I switched over the west-coast NBC feed. How can this be taken seriously when Chris Collinsworth is hosting the Olympic Closing Ceremony?
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degenerasian wrote:I switched over the west-coast NBC feed. How can this be taken seriously when Chris Collinsworth is hosting the Olympic Closing Ceremony?
Did Al Michaels bet the over or the under?
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DaveInSeattle wrote:
degenerasian wrote:I switched over the west-coast NBC feed. How can this be taken seriously when Chris Collinsworth is hosting the Olympic Closing Ceremony?
Did Al Michaels bet the over or the under?
He bet two teardrops and lost.
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My favorite quote of the games was when Mikaela Stiffrin was asked about sharing the gold medal with her parents
Well we'll find out. I haven't got the gold medal yet but I earned I guess. But I haven't got it yet so hopefully they kept enough for in the stock.
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Scottie wrote:Very pleased to see that Sochi avoided anything close to terrorism during the games. Or, better put, there were no significant political activities disrupting the event;
This. All of this.
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Exploring the ruins of the ancient civilization of Sochi:

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If only the Russians had a term for a bogus village set up for public relations purposes.
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Johnny Carwash wrote:If only the Russians had a term for a bogus village set up for public relations purposes.
Awesome.
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Johnny Carwash wrote:If only the Russians had a term for a bogus village set up for public relations purposes.
This is so wonderful, deserves at least a second props.
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Yeah. Did you guys top that one last week or should I stop reading?
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An American won the world championship in biathlon. First time ever...and he was going to retire but his job requires that he give it a go for 2018 olypmics.
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Venezuelan Olympic Hopeful...struggling.
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NHL not going to the Olympics.
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wlu_lax6 wrote:NHL not going to the Olympics.
Definitely not going now.

2018 All-Star Game in Tampa

March outdoor game between Toronto and Washington
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if you were curious what a non-NHL olympic team would look like, Canada has put two teams together for exhibition tournaments


Roster 1:

Forwards: Justin Azevedo, Gilbert Brule, Brandon Buck, Kevin Clark, Andrew Ebbett, Bud Holloway, Rob Klinkhammer, Brandon Kozun, Ben Maxwell, Brandon McMillan, Eric O’Dell, Daniel Paille, Mason Raymond, Max Talbot, Linden Vey

Defence: Chay Genoway, Geoff Kinrade, Patrick McNeill, Maxim Noreau, Mat Robinson, Jonathan Sigalet, Karl Stollery

Goaltenders: Justin Peters, Kevin Poulin

Roster 2:

Forwards: Taylor Beck, Sean Collins, Cory Emmerton, Ryan Garbutt, Andrew Gordon, David McIntyre, Jacob Micflikier, Trevor Parkes, Marc-Antoine Pouliot, Derek Roy, Greg Scott, Paul Szczechura, James Wright

Defence: Cam Barker, Carlo Colaiacovo, Stefan Elliott, Marc-Andre Gragnani, Kevin Klein, Shawn Lalonde, Craig Schira

Goaltenders: Ben Scrivens, Kevin Poulin*


I feel like there have to be some guys in Junior still that could potentially be better options.
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I think they should go the other way and make it all retired stars
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Ryan Garbutt? Ben Scrivens?? SET YOUR DVRs NOW!
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Ryan wrote:I think they should go the other way and make it all retired stars


from the recently retired list you'd have

Forwards
Brad Richards
Shawn Horcoff
Alex Tanguay
Travis Moen
Gregory Campbell
Daniel Cleary
Jarrett Stoll
John Scott!!!!
and possible Doan and Iginla

Defense
Andrew Ference
Brian Campbell
Dan Boyle
Matt Carle

can't find a goalie.
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I like the idea of a bunch of over-the-hill retired players competing.

Are the major junior leagues shutting down for the Olympics, or are those players not an option?
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so this is what the new Olympic hockey looks like

https://twitter.com/khl_eng/status/894670740930285568
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