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Some dude named "Dan" wrote:The article could use some more details.

First, the submersible made contact every 15 minutes to its ship. This stopped around 5:30 am on Sunday. The ship only made a distress call at 9 pm that day.

Second, there are seven different built-in “return to surface” systems. One of those systems is set to engage automatically once the ship has been submerged for 14 hours. That timer started as soon as the ship submerged, and is designed to work even if everyone on board is dead.

Third, visibility at its last presumed location (two miles down in the sea) is about twenty feet, even with bright lights. So the most reasonable method to search would presumably be sonar. However, because there is another man-made ship famously sunk in that area, sonar is not especially effective for spotting them. So they’re left with listening via sound for distress calls and searching the ocean surface for the submersible.

Fourth, the reason the Coast Guard is most searching the ocean surface is because if the ship made it back up (as it was designed to do via many failsafes), they can still suffocate to death because it’s airtight and the hatch can only be opened from the outside.

Fifth, the likelihood that they’re at the surface is basically nil, because they had emergency GPS equipment for that outcome. The equipment they did have would not have survived hull compression.

Sixth, hull compression is the most likely reason for failure. There are two reasons why: first, the pressure cycling of going back and forth from the deep sea is highly likely to cause hull fractures over time, and second, because the contact ceased when they were dropping to the ocean floor and pressurizing.

Seventh, if failure was caused by hull compression, then everyone would have died basically instantaneously - within a second or two. There is a very good, but not guaranteed, chance that they were not aware of any hull problems prior to compression. Otherwise, the various gauges and sensors in the submersible would have alerted them to pressurization issues, and they would have reacted by returning to the surface.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:05 am Fuck that, I’m not getting in anything you can’t open from the inside!

rass wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:17 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:05 am Fuck that, I’m not getting in anything you can’t open from the inside!

(cut to Syb attending an event at Mar a Lago for some reason and refusing to go to the bathroom)

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:05 am The doors on the submersible can only be opened from the outside, so even if it surfaced, which is highly unlikely, they would need to find it to open the doors before they run out of air. Fuck that, I’m not getting in anything you can’t open from the inside!

brian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:32 am I know no one wants to be the bad guy so I’ll say it. A bunch of rich fucks dying in a dick-measuring contest about how rich they are isn’t a tragedy.

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:29 am I also personally don't know a single person who'd be dumb enough to get on this vehicle and go two miles deep in the ocean.

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:05 am One of their stepsons still going to the Blink-182 concert is hilarious to me.

Also, love how Dan Crenshaw is already blaming Biden on them not being saved.

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:05 am One of their stepsons still going to the Blink-182 concert is hilarious to me.

Also, love how Dan Crenshaw is already blaming Biden on them not being saved.

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:36 am

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:05 am One of their stepsons still going to the Blink-182 concert is hilarious to me.

Also, love how Dan Crenshaw is already blaming Biden on them not being saved.

Saw a twitter response to this with a clip from their "Miss You" video with just DeLonge's lyric "Where are you?" posted. Absolutely hilarious.

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:29 am I don't personally know a single person who doesn't love going to Vegas. I also personally don't know a single person who'd be dumb enough to get on this vehicle and go two miles deep in the ocean.

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:50 am I still say that should be the next Swamp meetup.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:52 am

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:50 am I still say that should be the next Swamp meetup.

Particularly if there was some good live music we all want to attend.

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am Not to steal Jerloma's schtick, but I don't think this is irony at all. If anything, this appears completely fucking expected.

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:03 pm Aside from their wealth, is there any reason everyone is committing resources to finding these dipshits?

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:26 pm Meh... The whole deal with seafaring vessels is that everyone is supposed to stop whatever their doing and go help. I don't know if it's official maritime law or whatever, but if not, it's like unwritten code in MLB or the NHL.

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:32 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:26 pm Meh... The whole deal with seafaring vessels is that everyone is supposed to stop whatever their doing and go help. I don't know if it's official maritime law or whatever, but if not, it's like unwritten code in MLB or the NHL.

A quick google search indicates that it's an active requirement to assist vessels in distress on the high seas, and US Federal Statute makes it a crime to fail to do so.

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:47 pm Interesting. Maybe the same thing always happens for migrant vessels but the attention/framing is different.

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:49 pm Sounds like even if they find it and it's on the bottom of the ocean, it's going to be near impossible to get it to the surface.