Trump Administration Meltdown Thread...

Rams Fanny · Post by **Rams Fanny** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:39 pm

I know there have been lots of proclamations and wishes signed but will the Russia sanctions be the first thing passed by both houses and signed by the President? That's a poor six months by any standard.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:10 pm

Rams Fanny wrote:I know there have been lots of proclamations and wishes signed but will the Russia sanctions be the first thing passed by both houses and signed by the President? That's a poor six months by any standard.

Not so fast!

The deal maker speaks...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4662193152

Post by **brian** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:34 pm

Even by Trumpian standards having your comms director starting his job on a Friday, having his wife give birth on a Monday (which) you don't attend, imploding your reputation on Wednesday and having your wife file for divorce on a Friday seven days later is pretty fucked up right? Somehow I'm not so sure any more.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:23 pm

brian wrote:Even by Trumpian standards having your comms director starting his job on a Friday, having his wife give birth on a Monday (which) you don't attend, imploding your reputation on Wednesday and having your wife file for divorce on a Friday seven days later is pretty fucked up right? Somehow I'm not so sure any more.

Men of gravitas and honour.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:26 pm

Just looked over at Trump's twitter feed, and he is clearly losing it. I picture him alone in a room, screaming at the walls as he types in this shit.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 8798965761

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4132795392

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6294494209

This is scary stuff.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:26 pm

Pruitt wrote:Just looked over at Trump's twitter feed, and he is clearly losing it. I picture him alone in a room, screaming at the walls as he types in this shit....

This is scary stuff.

Trump is such an idiot. China has like 25% of the world's population; God forbid they have economic and poltical leverage.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:27 pm

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/891733212682215424

Gorka, Mooch, Lewandowski and Omarosa. Trump's advisors in the house!

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:37 pm

Omarosa is T H I C C.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:13 pm

https://m.imgur.com/yRXBaRA

testuser2 · Post by **testuser2** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:06 pm

I'd like to get in here early and propose that we are in the final stages of having a 3rd party emerge. The Trump party.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:46 pm

The Mooch is out

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:48 pm

A_B wrote:The Mooch is out

Hilarious!!!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:56 pm

This is one of the funniest things I think I have ever followed.

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:56 pm

A_B wrote:The Mooch is out

He was like a great, beautiful shining star

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:57 pm

https://twitter.com/barry/status/892095212352413697

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/892093579195281408

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:59 pm

Who the hell is this Sam Stein?!

What a maroon.

The only good thing about the Trump is that thanks to him, we are getting to see a bunch of complete assholes being humiliated.

Spicer, priebus, Sessions, Christie, Romney, who'd I leave out?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:59 pm

https://twitter.com/JimmyTraina/status/ ... 7278142465

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:02 pm

https://twitter.com/iamjoonlee/status/8 ... 5232620544

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:05 pm

"No WH chaos!"

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:18 pm

Not for nothing, but many moons ago I was railing on the Trump transition. They had literally done ZERO prep in the event that they actually won. They had no real policy positions, and they'd barely mapped out the highest level lists for cabinet positions.

This kind of a six month shitshow is so beyond any other transition it's not even on the same planet. Turning over the CoS and the Comms Director... And the head of the NSA??

Obvious point, but this is insanity.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:27 pm

How Italians like this on Facebook:

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:27 pm

Pruitt wrote:Who the hell is this Sam Stein?!

What a maroon.

The only good thing about the Trump is that thanks to him, we are getting to see a bunch of complete assholes being humiliated.

Spicer, priebus, Sessions, Christie, Romney, who'd I leave out?

is this draining the swamp?

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:29 pm

At least we're all getting to live out two of the three branches of government being completely dysfunctional and essentially worthless.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:36 pm

So Trump brings in a hardass by the book general to be his chief of staff.

What's the over/under here on Kelly's stint? If he is as uncompromising as the hagiographers say, what happens when he tells his boss that Jared Kushner is a liability - or some similar trigger?

Post by **Sabo** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:51 pm

http://twitter.com/nytimes/status/892094508363653120

Post by **Shirley** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:06 pm

brian wrote:Even by Trumpian standards having your comms director starting his job on a Friday, having his wife give birth on a Monday (which) you don't attend, imploding your reputation on Wednesday and having your wife file for divorce on a Friday seven days later is pretty fucked up right? Somehow I'm not so sure any more.

How about now?

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:08 pm

Shirley wrote:
brian wrote:Even by Trumpian standards having your comms director starting his job on a Friday, having his wife give birth on a Monday (which) you don't attend, imploding your reputation on Wednesday and having your wife file for divorce on a Friday seven days later is pretty fucked up right? Somehow I'm not so sure any more.

How about now?

I'm basically agog. Ultimately I legitimately think Trump is thinking of doing something stupid re: North Korea to distract attention from this shitshow.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:10 pm

Shirley wrote:
brian wrote:Even by Trumpian standards having your comms director starting his job on a Friday, having his wife give birth on a Monday (which) you don't attend, imploding your reputation on Wednesday and having your wife file for divorce on a Friday seven days later is pretty fucked up right? Somehow I'm not so sure any more.

How about now?

ALL of this is fucked up beyond recognition.

This shit is about to get even more fucked up, because Kelly is not "a Trump guy." And he, apparently, takes not shit and doesn't suffer fools. Given what we know other aides have dealt with... I have no idea how this guy is going to last.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:09 pm

https://twitter.com/sethrogen/status/892102768982470656

tennbengal wrote:https://twitter.com/samstein/status/892093579195281408

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:19 pm

I like that tweet because you can even hear it in Rogen's voice.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:20 pm

What we're all being distracted from:

http://reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6 ... judiciary/

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:39 pm

Johnnie wrote:What we're all being distracted from:

http://reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6 ... judiciary/

I recently heard an interview with this guy. At least there are people in Congress with a sense of decency - but of course for the Trump's it's only about orphans.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:51 pm

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6319004672

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:21 am

It's really frustrating to see GOP senators and representatives bitch and moan about Trump, but then vote right along with him. Jeff Flake is the latest example, but at least his anti-Trump language is pretty strident.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:16 am

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0926011393

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:27 am

sancarlos wrote:It's really frustrating to see GOP senators and representatives bitch and moan about Trump, but then vote right along with him. Jeff Flake is the latest example, but at least his anti-Trump language is pretty strident.

"Having It Both Ways" by the well intentioned but effectively handcuffed and definitely sympathetic Jeff Flake.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:28 am

sancarlos wrote:It's really frustrating to see GOP senators and representatives bitch and moan about Trump, but then vote right along with him. Jeff Flake is the latest example, but at least his anti-Trump language is pretty strident.

Flake is definitely trying to position himself for a future run for President. But as you pointed out, when push comes to shove, he has backed Trump at every turn. He voted for every single Trump cabinet appointee and also voted to repeal the ACA. Whenever the Trump nightmare ends, and the media begins its inevitable quest to rehabilitate the GOP by promoting "reasonable moderates," hopefully people remember who actually cast votes against Trump and took stances that mattered. Right now, the pickings are pretty damn slim on that front.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:36 am

Johnnie wrote:What we're all being distracted from:

http://reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6 ... judiciary/

Imma be that guy and say if folks have followed this thread and read the Vox, Atlantic and other articles posted along the way, there's nothing new in that testimony. It does confirm things, on the record.

There are a lot of things that are now public record that make things look really shady. As of now, there still isn't the one glaring thing that creates an open and shut case.

But that's all of the things that we know from reporting and testimony. Who knows what Mueller's team is scrounging up.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:18 am

Joe K wrote:
sancarlos wrote:It's really frustrating to see GOP senators and representatives bitch and moan about Trump, but then vote right along with him. Jeff Flake is the latest example, but at least his anti-Trump language is pretty strident.

Flake is definitely trying to position himself for a future run for President. But as you pointed out, when push comes to shove, he has backed Trump at every turn. He voted for every single Trump cabinet appointee and also voted to repeal the ACA. Whenever the Trump nightmare ends, and the media begins its inevitable quest to rehabilitate the GOP by promoting "reasonable moderates," hopefully people remember who actually cast votes against Trump and took stances that mattered. Right now, the pickings are pretty damn slim on that front.

Of course Flake is voting along with Trump - the votes are on things Flake agrees with. Flake is a Republican, and pretty much the entire Republican party is behind things like their horrible repeal-and-replace nonsense. They all voted for Sessions and Price and the rest.

If we want to see steps toward getting rid of Trump, it won't be from the people who vote against Trump's initiatives. It'll be from the horrible Republicans like Flake.

I think someone like Flake having an op-ed published is a big deal. This is how it starts - if it is going to happen.

To me, the bigger deal is that Flake admitted in the op-ed that as soon as Obama entered office, the Republicans joined together to thwart him no matter what he did. I don't know if any Republicans have publicly admitted that before.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:09 am

Steve of phpBB wrote:
Joe K wrote:
sancarlos wrote:It's really frustrating to see GOP senators and representatives bitch and moan about Trump, but then vote right along with him. Jeff Flake is the latest example, but at least his anti-Trump language is pretty strident.

Flake is definitely trying to position himself for a future run for President. But as you pointed out, when push comes to shove, he has backed Trump at every turn. He voted for every single Trump cabinet appointee and also voted to repeal the ACA. Whenever the Trump nightmare ends, and the media begins its inevitable quest to rehabilitate the GOP by promoting "reasonable moderates," hopefully people remember who actually cast votes against Trump and took stances that mattered. Right now, the pickings are pretty damn slim on that front.

Of course Flake is voting along with Trump - the votes are on things Flake agrees with. Flake is a Republican, and pretty much the entire Republican party is behind things like their horrible repeal-and-replace nonsense. They all voted for Sessions and Price and the rest.

If we want to see steps toward getting rid of Trump, it won't be from the people who vote against Trump's initiatives. It'll be from the horrible Republicans like Flake.

I think someone like Flake having an op-ed published is a big deal. This is how it starts - if it is going to happen.

To me, the bigger deal is that Flake admitted in the op-ed that as soon as Obama entered office, the Republicans joined together to thwart him no matter what he did. I don't know if any Republicans have publicly admitted that before.

What would be the time frame for this? IIRC the 2009 Obama cabinet nominations went much smoother with less obstruction than the 2017 Trump cabinet nominations. The 46+2 Democratic senators are voting as a block right now.