Re: Godless III - Completing The Trinity
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:49 am
I'm sure he is. Did I say something anti-Ben Folds?
It's the sixth version of The Swamp. What could possibly go wrong?
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An obstetrician once told me that if you're counting on being circumcised as the thing between you and an STD, you're nuts. I think most people do it because they themselves are circimcised and didn't give any thought to not doing it.Jerloma wrote:Oh well I think it's common enough where people do it without even thinking about the actual reason anymore. I think that's the case for most religious rituals being practiced today. It's still an action that's the result of a divine mandate though.*Steve of phpBB wrote:Isn't circumcision still pretty common? How many circumcisions these days are motivated by religious belief at all, let alone an actual belief that the dude who created foreskins doesn't want them there?Jerloma wrote:What do you want to know? People mutilate the genitals of their infants because they think that the dude that created foreskins doesn't want them there.
*To be fair, there is some debate about it being healthier as it reduces the chance of infection although this isn't completely accepted by the medical community. If the motivation was truly completely secular and only being done for health reasons, wouldn't you have to have their appendix removed too though? That thing is a fucking ticking time bomb of doom. What an utterly useless organ. Unfortunately, God didn't make David bring him the appendixes of all the Philistines that he killed for him because God didn't know what the hell an appendix was.
Yeah, that's pretty much why we had our boys circumcised. We talked about not doing it, but a very unscientific poll of peers gave us the feeling that most folks were still doing it and we didn't want our kids to have the weird dick in middle school.sancarlos wrote:Back when I was in junior high, the one guy in the phys ed locker room who wasn't circumcised was an object of some juvenile ribbing/derision. I wonder if that possible issue affects parents' decisions nowadays? I wonder if it is any more common nowadays for a kid to be uncircumcised?
That's just a really fucking weird thing to say.Scottie wrote:Last check-up I had, and I don't do it often enough but it was maybe a year ago . . . the doctor commented "You have an excellent circumcision, really, perfect, one of the best I've ever seen."
Uh huh.
And I thought, what the fuck? Why the hell would you compliment some guy on that? It's not as if I did it myself.
I think I was the "one guy" in my school who wasn't circumcised, but there was no derision because, just like everyone else, I kept my dick to myself in the locker room.sancarlos wrote:Back when I was in junior high, the one guy in the phys ed locker room who wasn't circumcised was an object of some juvenile ribbing/derision. I wonder if that possible issue affects parents' decisions nowadays? I wonder if it is any more common nowadays for a kid to be uncircumcised?
Not to turn this into the mutilated dicks thread, but why weren't you circumcised?Steve of phpBB wrote:I think I was the "one guy" in my school who wasn't circumcised, but there was no derision because, just like everyone else, I kept my dick to myself in the locker room.sancarlos wrote:Back when I was in junior high, the one guy in the phys ed locker room who wasn't circumcised was an object of some juvenile ribbing/derision. I wonder if that possible issue affects parents' decisions nowadays? I wonder if it is any more common nowadays for a kid to be uncircumcised?
With my son, we decided we wouldn't do it, but it ended up being moot because he was born with hypospadias and needed an operation when he was just a couple months old.
Interesting, according to wiki it is the second most common genital birth defect in males. Never heard of it, but I guess that is because it is very easily corrected at a very young age. Most kids probably never get told they had it done. Anywho, I only really knew of one guy growing up with a turtle neck. I don't know how much the teasing affected him, but he turned it more into a party trick than anything else. Dude had so many other problems, that had to be pretty far down the list, but at least he was finally diagnosed as bi-polar and I hear responded well to treatment. But I digress.Steve of phpBB wrote: With my son, we decided we wouldn't do it, but it ended up being moot because he was born with hypospadias and needed an operation when he was just a couple months old.
My father was first generation Canadian (his father was born in Belgium), and he uses that term all the time.Jerloma wrote:The "Old Country"?
That's funny, because it's something nearly every Catholic & Christian on Long Island does. I didn't meet a Jewish person until I went away to college, and all of my friends were circumcised.Steve of phpBB wrote:I think it was just because my dad was from the Old Country, and that wasn't something they did in the Old Country - or at least it wasn't something Catholics did.
Yugoslavia.Jerloma wrote:The "Old Country"?
Right but I didn't think circumcision was a new thing. If anything I would have thought it was something more conducive to the "Old Country." That's why I found that confusing.sancarlos wrote:My father was first generation Canadian (his father was born in Belgium), and he uses that term all the time.Jerloma wrote:The "Old Country"?
I think it's a relatively new thing among Gentiles.Jerloma wrote:Right but I didn't think circumcision was a new thing. If anything I would have thought it was something more conducive to the "Old Country." That's why I found that confusing.sancarlos wrote:My father was first generation Canadian (his father was born in Belgium), and he uses that term all the time.Jerloma wrote:The "Old Country"?
Wait. Wut?Jerloma wrote:What percentage of Muricans would get that he's actually making fun of a guy that performs barefoot with skinny jeans and eye make-up?
Greatest idea ever. I say we lock Scottie and SLolz in a basement together until they complete the script.Johnnie wrote:You 2 really need to be in a buddy comedy together.
Aren't comedies supposed to be funny?Johnnie wrote:You 2 really need to be in a buddy comedy together.
Abraham started circumcisions, on himself at 99 years old. He also snipped Isaac. It was done to show the covenant with g-d.Jerloma wrote:I have no doubts at all that most people do it out of social conformity. I'm just saying that if YHWH hadn't asked David to bring him a bag of dicks, the mushroom look would be the one that got made fun of in high school locker rooms. The one-eyed snake would be the norm.
Not anymore. When's the last time you watched one? Comedies are anything but funny these days.bfj wrote:Aren't comedies supposed to be funny?Johnnie wrote:You 2 really need to be in a buddy comedy together.
Holy shit...like attempting to murder his child wasn't enough? He also the needed to cut off the top of his dick? He's like the neediest God ever invented.bfj wrote:Abraham started circumcisions, on himself at 99 years old. He also snipped Isaac. It was done to show the covenant with g-d.Jerloma wrote:I have no doubts at all that most people do it out of social conformity. I'm just saying that if YHWH hadn't asked David to bring him a bag of dicks, the mushroom look would be the one that got made fun of in high school locker rooms. The one-eyed snake would be the norm.
Other than Harry Potter, LOTR and assorted kids movies, I haven't seen a movie in 12 years.Scottie wrote:Not anymore. When's the last time you watched one? Comedies are anything but funny these days.bfj wrote:Aren't comedies supposed to be funny?Johnnie wrote:You 2 really need to be in a buddy comedy together.
Reminds of a routine by some forgettable stand-up comedian I saw ...howard wrote:All in all, a better deal than the first offer for/of Issac. And an excuse for me to post one of my fav lyrics ever
G_d said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe said, "Man, you must be puttin' me on!"
G_d said, "No."
Abe said, "What?"
G_d said, "Abe, you can do what you want."
"But the next time you see me comin', you better run!"
Abe said, "Where you want this killing done?"
G_d said, "Out there, on Highway 61"
So...you find it barbaric and repulsive, but you still had it done? I've been through 2 with my sons and I can tell you that they really aren't grievously injured and the recovery time is a few days. I kind of prefer the Jewsh way of doing it as opposed to my kid being strapped to a board in a hospital setting. My sons were surrounded by loved ones who held them as it was done. Quick snip and it's over with. The party part is optional, but it let's your family/friends come see the baby and shower love on them.The Sybian wrote: As for my son, we never really discussed it. We knew we weren't doing a ceremonial Bris. As a Jew, I have actually never been to one other than my own. I find the ritual barbaric and repulsive, and don't get the concept of inviting the whole extended family and friends to the house for the occasion. I have never had to intentionally duck out of one, just been fortunate enough to not be able to attend when invited, so never had to think about. Anywho, with my son, the Jewish OB-Gyn asked if we planned on doing a ceremonial circumcision, we said no and he said he would do it the day after the birth. We kind of left it at that.
I find the ceremonial aspect and the covenant with G-d aspect barbaric, not the medical procedure. Inviting people into my home to watch the removal of skin from my son's genitals in my living room, then serving hors d'oeuvres and cocktails seems weird. Allowing a doctor to perform the act in a hospital doesn't to me. Listen, I'm about the only person in my family that opted for the hospital over the at home bris, so I'm surely not judging. I went to Hebrew School 3 days a week from the time I was 6, so I was taught the traditions before I was old enough to question it. But as an adult, I have to agree with J-Lo. The Abraham circumcision story really makes no sense, and I was really thinking about it this morning, and sealed the deal that I'm not teaching my kids religion until they are old enough to question what they are told.bfj wrote:So...you find it barbaric and repulsive, but you still had it done? I've been through 2 with my sons and I can tell you that they really aren't grievously injured and the recovery time is a few days. I kind of prefer the Jewsh way of doing it as opposed to my kid being strapped to a board in a hospital setting. My sons were surrounded by loved ones who held them as it was done. Quick snip and it's over with. The party part is optional, but it let's your family/friends come see the baby and shower love on them.The Sybian wrote: As for my son, we never really discussed it. We knew we weren't doing a ceremonial Bris. As a Jew, I have actually never been to one other than my own. I find the ritual barbaric and repulsive, and don't get the concept of inviting the whole extended family and friends to the house for the occasion. I have never had to intentionally duck out of one, just been fortunate enough to not be able to attend when invited, so never had to think about. Anywho, with my son, the Jewish OB-Gyn asked if we planned on doing a ceremonial circumcision, we said no and he said he would do it the day after the birth. We kind of left it at that.
Also the mohels are specialist at these things. I wonder how many OB/GYN's practice circumcisions. I trust the experts.
As far as the mouth on D thing. I equate the Jews that do that with the goyim who dance with poisonous snakes. A weird fringe group who even the ultra Orthodox look at as freaks. I have a few ultra Orthodox friends and they have never seen that ritual done at any Bris they've attended.
My kids actually go to church with my wife when she feels inclined to actually go. I don't mind at all but I tell them three things...Sybian wrote:But as an adult, I have to agree with J-Lo. The Abraham circumcision story really makes no sense, and I was really thinking about it this morning, and sealed the deal that I'm not teaching my kids religion until they are old enough to question what they are told.