The Swamp

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:54 am

A_B wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:09 am I watched exactly zero seconds of draft coverage. I don't know if this is a good development for me or a bad one.

Same. Knew zero of the picks and only caught coverage from meme accounts on social media.

I learned this morning that the Saints pick #19 was announced by Mildenhall AB and people in my career field were in the spot. So that's kinda cool.

I was flipping my attention between the draft, the Sixers-Raps game, and my Duolingo French practice, and I completely missed until I saw the airmen that Sean Payton left the Saints head job.

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:01 am

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:54 am

A_B wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:09 am I watched exactly zero seconds of draft coverage. I don't know if this is a good development for me or a bad one.

Same. Knew zero of the picks and only caught coverage from meme accounts on social media.

I learned this morning that the Saints pick #19 was announced by Mildenhall AB and people in my career field were in the spot. So that's kinda cool.

I was flipping my attention between the draft, the Sixers-Raps game, and my Duolingo French practice, and I completely missed until I saw the airmen that Sean Payton left the Saints head job.

Yup. There was this wild story this off season that Tom Brady was set to be player-exec/partial owner of the Dolphins and Payton would be the head coach. It's hypothesized that that's why Flores was fired so weirdly and the fallout from that negated everything and Brady returned to Tampa.

brian wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:51 am The draft in person with 125.000 other people is a crazy deal. Also Weezer wailed the post-draft concert.

That's funny, I listened to the YVBS episode on Weezer yesterday.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:36 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:01 am

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:54 am

A_B wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:09 am I watched exactly zero seconds of draft coverage. I don't know if this is a good development for me or a bad one.

Same. Knew zero of the picks and only caught coverage from meme accounts on social media.

I learned this morning that the Saints pick #19 was announced by Mildenhall AB and people in my career field were in the spot. So that's kinda cool.

I was flipping my attention between the draft, the Sixers-Raps game, and my Duolingo French practice, and I completely missed until I saw the airmen that Sean Payton left the Saints head job.

Yup. There was this wild story this off season that Tom Brady was set to be player-exec/partial owner of the Dolphins and Payton would be the head coach. It's hypothesized that that's why Flores was fired so weirdly and the fallout from that negated everything and Brady returned to Tampa.

And why bill sent the text. . I still say wrong Brian but 3D chess and all

I don’t have the draft value chart in front of me but I still can’t help thinking the Lions got the best of that deal with the Vikes yesterday.

#12 and #46 for
#32 and #34 and #68

Lions might have got best edge rusher and WR in draft.

Pretty cool that Make A Wish made that happen for the dude announcing the Patriots pick. He actually did pretty well with it.

And of course you gotta love the awkward energy of the crowd trying not to boo a leukemia survivor.

He did really well with it. Most the presenters really. Vegas showman I guess.

Straight burner. Never seems to work.

If that pick becomes like 85% of Brown at 10% the cost isn’t that a massive win, not a lucky draw?

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:46 pm If that pick becomes like 85% of Brown at 10% the cost isn’t that a massive win, not a lucky draw?

If he becomes 85% of Brown then you’ve hit massively on that pick. Chances are he’s not going to do anything of note.

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:05 pm Straight burner. Never seems to work.

I don’t understand that pick at all and if there’s one spot you can say NE for sure has blinders on, it’s at WR. To me George Pickens is much more likely to be a good nfl wr but until they actually play it’s hard to bury a pick.

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:37 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:46 pm If that pick becomes like 85% of Brown at 10% the cost isn’t that a massive win, not a lucky draw?

If he becomes 85% of Brown then you’ve hit massively on that pick. Chances are he’s not going to do anything of note.

AJ Brown provided the Titans with a threat to take the top off the defense and turn a short reception into a TD. He was never going to put up huge numbers at Tennessee simply because the offense is not built that way.

With that threat now gone, the Titans will be so much easier to scheme against. Last season Brown missed 4 games through injury and they were 1-3 in those games with loses to the Jets, Steelers and Patriots (who to be fair are shite, average and well coached, average and very well coached).

But he did put up big numbers at TEN: 3rd in his draft class in receiving yards, 2nd in TDs. Not far behind DK Metcalf in both, and wouldn't it be absurd to trade DK for a random pick right now?

Man the ravens always draft well. Like, really well.

Looking at the picks not sure the browns have a plan.

I'm beginning to wonder if the new Bears' regime has already decided Fields is a bust.

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:41 am Man the ravens always draft well. Like, really well.

Picks like Ojabo and Jones are proof they never seem to overthink it.

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 9:40 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:41 am Man the ravens always draft well. Like, really well.

Picks like Ojabo and Jones are proof they never seem to overthink it.

Their first two first-rounders in their history turned out to be first-ballot HoFers, and they never looked back.

Fun fact I just found out about the Bears' third-round WR, Velus Jones:

Velus Jones was born a month and a half before A.J. Brown.

A_B wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:44 am Looking at the picks not sure the browns have a plan.

This quote could be an evergreen!

The fact that McNeigh didn't mention the Bills' 2nd and 3rd rounders has me worried...

pruitt2 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:14 am

A_B wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:44 am Looking at the picks not sure the browns have a plan.

This quote could be an evergreen!

The fact that McNeigh didn't mention the Bills' 2nd and 3rd rounders has me worried...

You get used to it after awhile.

Guarantee that this will be playing in the pregame hype reel in Orchard Park this season!

32 teams that mostly still love to punt and Punt God 3000 is still out there.

Ha some team took a kicker in round four!

Ryan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:49 pm 32 teams that mostly still love to punt and Punt God 3000 is still out there.

He's STILL out there? WTF?

He's the Sebastian Janikowski of punting. Set it and forget it. Control field position for 20 years!

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:12 pm

Ryan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:49 pm 32 teams that mostly still love to punt and Punt God 3000 is still out there.

He's STILL out there? WTF?

He's the Sebastian Janikowski of punting. Set it and forget it. Control field position for 20 years!

Bills got him.

Sabo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:45 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:12 pm

Ryan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:49 pm 32 teams that mostly still love to punt and Punt God 3000 is still out there.

He's STILL out there? WTF?

He's the Sebastian Janikowski of punting. Set it and forget it. Control field position for 20 years!

Bills got him.

Fucking Bucs picked the UGA punter a round and a half before him? Idiots.

pruitt2 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:14 am

A_B wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:44 am Looking at the picks not sure the browns have a plan.

This quote could be an evergreen!

The fact that McNeigh didn't mention the Bills' 2nd and 3rd rounders has me worried...

Don’t worry about it with Cook, I just didn’t feel like watching RBs since you don’t get a lot of them in the first round. From all accounts that pick is just fine.

The other guy tho I’ve never heard of.


EDIT: I don't think Bernard will be on their roster 3 years from now unless he's a really good special teams player.

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:07 pm

Sabo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:45 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:12 pm

Ryan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:49 pm 32 teams that mostly still love to punt and Punt God 3000 is still out there.

He's STILL out there? WTF?

He's the Sebastian Janikowski of punting. Set it and forget it. Control field position for 20 years!

Bills got him.

Fucking Bucs picked the UGA punter a round and a half before him? Idiots.

That kid can play though. Saw him punt a couple times in high school. Looked like an NFL guy then. Is a good kicker too. Drilled a game winner from 47 like an extra point.

The replies in this thread are hilarious.

I'd never heard of the safety that Houston took with pick 37 (Jalen Pitre) but he looks fuckin' awesome.

Good to know that I'm not crazy thinking that the Lions got way better of that trade-up with Minnesota.

Do pick value charts really matter mid-draft when you're trading for a specific player and not the conceptual value of the pick?

mister d wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:39 am Do pick value charts really matter mid-draft when you're trading for a specific player and not the conceptual value of the pick?

Fair point, and it's all relative. You really have to factor in a lot of different things including the the position of the player you're trading up to draft, with the assumption that a high first-round QB is inherently more valuable than say, a safety.

That said, even as a blunt tool, it has its uses.

I don't understand why people expect the idea of draft trade value to be constant every year. In a "bad draft", the picks everyone wants to trade out of should be worth less than a year where everyone wants to move up for Trevor Lawrence or whoever.

I would have much rather had picks 31, 50 and 60 than pick 10 this year. Last year I'd probably rather have pick 10.

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:41 pm I don't understand why people expect the idea of draft trade value to be constant every year. In a "bad draft", the picks everyone wants to trade out of should be worth less than a year where everyone wants to move up for Trevor Lawrence or whoever.

I would have much rather had picks 31, 50 and 60 than pick 10 this year. Last year I'd probably rather have pick 10.

DeVonta Smith for you

pruitt2 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:13 pm

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:41 pm I don't understand why people expect the idea of draft trade value to be constant every year. In a "bad draft", the picks everyone wants to trade out of should be worth less than a year where everyone wants to move up for Trevor Lawrence or whoever.

I would have much rather had picks 31, 50 and 60 than pick 10 this year. Last year I'd probably rather have pick 10.

DeVonta Smith for you

If I were most teams I probably would have taken Rashaan Slater.

McNeigh introduces me to RAS and a week later, Mike Reiss writes about it: Could New England Patriots' top draft picks be a referendum on relative athletic score?. Get him some oats.