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Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:00 pm
by Giff
LOL at the announcers trying to compare the correct no-call on Mahomes getting hit on the sideline to Chris Jones taking out a defenseless OL well behind a play.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:01 pm
by Gunpowder
brian wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:58 am I was told really good teams never get blown out.
I mean the Dolphins have been a prime example of a team “not ready for prime time”

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:05 pm
by brian
They’ve done a nice job battling back here.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:28 pm
by Gunpowder
If I were the chiefs I’d like my chances of converting the 4th and 1 and/or stopping Miami from going 20 yards rather than stopping Miami from going 70 yards

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:28 pm
by Gunpowder
Also would likely get the ball back with a minute or two if you didn’t get it and then gave up a TD

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:20 pm
by Brontoburglar
they've got the steve sax on third and one at this point

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:21 pm
by Brontoburglar
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:17 am It seems to me that Tua absolutely led Hill into that strip-six TD by the Chiefs. If you’re not going to look off the DBs, then you at least have to recognize the ones that are poised to bury your WR in the flat.
nah, that's just a great play by McDuffie. there was a blocker specifically designed to take him out. he just recognized the play soon enough to beat it. can't put that on Tua there unless you think he's a mind reader

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:31 pm
by Ryan
New quarterbacks are fuckin’ killing it out there!

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:54 pm
by Ryan
Ok at least the veterans are showing up (Tyson Bagent)

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:11 pm
by Johnnie
Holy shit.


Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:39 pm
by EnochRoot
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:21 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:17 am It seems to me that Tua absolutely led Hill into that strip-six TD by the Chiefs. If you’re not going to look off the DBs, then you at least have to recognize the ones that are poised to bury your WR in the flat.
nah, that's just a great play by McDuffie. there was a blocker specifically designed to take him out. he just recognized the play soon enough to beat it. can't put that on Tua there unless you think he's a mind reader
They were showing press coverage before the snap. It’s up to Tua to either look the defender out of Hill’s area or abandon the play.

Sorry, but that’s on Tua.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:39 pm
by HaulCitgo
Belichick been rocking the croatia flag all year?

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:44 pm
by HaulCitgo
Henry should sue the nfl. Shit call

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:51 pm
by Giff
Horrendous call.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:12 pm
by Brontoburglar
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:39 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:21 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:17 am It seems to me that Tua absolutely led Hill into that strip-six TD by the Chiefs. If you’re not going to look off the DBs, then you at least have to recognize the ones that are poised to bury your WR in the flat.
nah, that's just a great play by McDuffie. there was a blocker specifically designed to take him out. he just recognized the play soon enough to beat it. can't put that on Tua there unless you think he's a mind reader
They were showing press coverage before the snap. It’s up to Tua to either look the defender out of Hill’s area or abandon the play.

Sorry, but that’s on Tua.
the play's timing doesn't have a margin to "look the defender out of Hill's area"



sometimes defenders make good plays, sometimes players miss blocks and sometimes good players fumble. this is a low-risk play that rolled snake eyes. that happens once in a while.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:18 pm
by rass
GD Giants/Vegas eating my chance to watch Philly/Dallas without jumping through hoops. Yuck.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:20 pm
by brian
Baltimore is probably the best team in the NFL at this point.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:40 pm
by EnochRoot
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:12 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:39 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:21 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:17 am It seems to me that Tua absolutely led Hill into that strip-six TD by the Chiefs. If you’re not going to look off the DBs, then you at least have to recognize the ones that are poised to bury your WR in the flat.
nah, that's just a great play by McDuffie. there was a blocker specifically designed to take him out. he just recognized the play soon enough to beat it. can't put that on Tua there unless you think he's a mind reader
They were showing press coverage before the snap. It’s up to Tua to either look the defender out of Hill’s area or abandon the play.

Sorry, but that’s on Tua.
the play's timing doesn't have a margin to "look the defender out of Hill's area"



sometimes defenders make good plays, sometimes players miss blocks and sometimes good players fumble. this is a low-risk play that rolled snake eyes. that happens once in a while.
Low risk play? Hill got blown the hell up and the ball went 75 yards in the opposite direction. Sure, the Chiefs made a great play call, and yeah, their defenders blew up the Dolphins’ blocking assignments, but that doesn’t mean Tua shouldn’t have recognized the potential for danger. If Tua didn’t have the time to look the defender out of press coverage, then it’s on him to either audible out, checkdown or call a timeout. Throwing into that mess got the results that it deserved.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:52 pm
by Johnnie
Houston is playing without a kicker right now and it's riveting. Their RB just booted a go ahead FG.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:52 pm
by Giff
Backup RBs kicking go ahead FGs out here.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:53 pm
by brian
Johnnie wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:52 pm Houston is playing without a kicker right now and it's riveting. Their RB just booted a go ahead FG.
That was amazing.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:54 pm
by brian
Though I remain a little mystified that punters aren’t automatically emergency kickers.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:55 pm
by HaulCitgo
Crucial special teams penalties?

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:58 pm
by HaulCitgo
Again... Umm

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:07 pm
by HaulCitgo
Fucking Jacobi meyers

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:11 pm
by rass
Forgot Dobbs got traded and first saw people on Twitter talking about how great he’s playing and then saw the Cardinals score and was confused.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:15 pm
by L-Jam3
Holy Roller rule in effect in Houston.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:24 pm
by rass
Fun endings in Atlanta and Houston.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:25 pm
by rass
Somehow the headband makes Baker look sadder. And pretty sure CBS agrees given how many times they’ve shown him after the Texans scored.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:28 pm
by HaulCitgo
Was fun. Dobbs and Stroud

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:31 pm
by Gunpowder
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:39 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:21 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:17 am It seems to me that Tua absolutely led Hill into that strip-six TD by the Chiefs. If you’re not going to look off the DBs, then you at least have to recognize the ones that are poised to bury your WR in the flat.
nah, that's just a great play by McDuffie. there was a blocker specifically designed to take him out. he just recognized the play soon enough to beat it. can't put that on Tua there unless you think he's a mind reader
They were showing press coverage before the snap. It’s up to Tua to either look the defender out of Hill’s area or abandon the play.

Sorry, but that’s on Tua.
On a screen? I mean sure if it’s obvious but that’s generally a blind throw

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:34 pm
by Gunpowder
brian wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:20 pm Baltimore is probably the best team in the NFL at this point.
#1 in the Horsepower rankings going into this week. This was probably the last time you could bet them on a bad line. Tried to tell people that Lamar Jackson would be undefendable in an actual NFL offense.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:35 pm
by Gunpowder
Johnnie wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:52 pm Houston is playing without a kicker right now and it's riveting. Their RB just booted a go ahead FG.
Fuckin spread was 2.5

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:00 pm
by Gunpowder
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:40 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:12 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:39 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:21 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:17 am It seems to me that Tua absolutely led Hill into that strip-six TD by the Chiefs. If you’re not going to look off the DBs, then you at least have to recognize the ones that are poised to bury your WR in the flat.
nah, that's just a great play by McDuffie. there was a blocker specifically designed to take him out. he just recognized the play soon enough to beat it. can't put that on Tua there unless you think he's a mind reader
They were showing press coverage before the snap. It’s up to Tua to either look the defender out of Hill’s area or abandon the play.

Sorry, but that’s on Tua.
the play's timing doesn't have a margin to "look the defender out of Hill's area"



sometimes defenders make good plays, sometimes players miss blocks and sometimes good players fumble. this is a low-risk play that rolled snake eyes. that happens once in a while.
Low risk play? Hill got blown the hell up and the ball went 75 yards in the opposite direction. Sure, the Chiefs made a great play call, and yeah, their defenders blew up the Dolphins’ blocking assignments, but that doesn’t mean Tua shouldn’t have recognized the potential for danger. If Tua didn’t have the time to look the defender out of press coverage, then it’s on him to either audible out, checkdown or call a timeout. Throwing into that mess got the results that it deserved.
The Chiefs play more press than any team in the NFL, year in and year out. The idea is that they block those guys and it’s a housecall. Otherwise why even call it against them?

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:04 pm
by Gunpowder

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:19 pm
by Brontoburglar
EnochRoot wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:40 pm Low risk play? Hill got blown the hell up and the ball went 75 yards in the opposite direction. Sure, the Chiefs made a great play call, and yeah, their defenders blew up the Dolphins’ blocking assignments, but that doesn’t mean Tua shouldn’t have recognized the potential for danger. If Tua didn’t have the time to look the defender out of press coverage, then it’s on him to either audible out, checkdown or call a timeout. Throwing into that mess got the results that it deserved.
wide receiver screens are frequently run against press coverage, especially with a player who can easily make defenders miss like Hill. a couple blocks and a missed tackle could be a TD -- and has a higher probability of happening than the outcome that occurred.

just because it backfired on the Dolphins (seriously, no one would have predicted in the moment that was going to happen) doesn't mean it was a terrible call or that it's Tua's fault for not seeing the future.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:33 pm
by brian
Did a IND/LV parlay (both were -1.5) for quite a bit of money and obviously wish I had bet more. Neither line made sense.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:51 pm
by brian
Hurts is hurt.

ETA: Looked really bad for a second but he finished off the half.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:59 pm
by brian
The real problem is that a recession IS coming. Question is if the worst of it can be held off for another 12 months. Hitler only won in Germany because of economic factors. The Fourth Reich might come into being because of factors well out of Biden’s control.

Re: NFL Week 9 - Halfway Done

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:01 pm
by L-Jam3
I don’t think a Hurts injury is a harbinger to bad economic times, but if you say so.