The Swamp

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:53 pm**

Cleveland is up by 21 at halftime against the 23-straight wins Heat. And Miami couldn't hit a thing in that second quarter. Even their free throws looked brickish.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:56 pm**

Boy have things turned around since then.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:09 pm**

test_MRC_test wrote:Boy have things turned around since then.

No kidding, eh? Both the real Heat and the real Cavaliers showed up in the second half.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:29 pm**

LeBron, post-game: "That kid gotta spend the rest of the night in jail, but he'll probably be on Sportscenter."

Story. With video.

Posted: **Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:11 pm**

ZTest wrote:I still say whether it was a dunk, a layup, or a trey, you just scored 2-3 points in a 100 point game. Stop fucking yelling like you scored the game winner at the buzzer, and get the fuck down court for some D.

And Zman comes right in to defend his title in the "get-off-my-lawn"-off!

Posted: **Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:55 pm**

It takes a real curmudgeon to not even realize you can just draw a tech for taunting and take your sweetass time getting back on D

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:09 am**

Mark Cuban taking a hard look at the 6'8" kid from Baylor in this year's draft.

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:42 am**

Absolutely no reason not to do that. In addition to the publicity garnered, it'll be interesting to see how bad she's dominated.

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:53 am**

When is Spoelstra gonna get hit with that suspension for resting Lebron and Wade?

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:53 am**

Giff wrote:Absolutely no reason not to do that. In addition to the publicity garnered, it'll be interesting to see how bad she's dominated.

I wouldn't draft her, but sure, bring her in for a workout/tryout.

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:02 am**

AB_skin_test wrote:
Giff wrote:Absolutely no reason not to do that. In addition to the publicity garnered, it'll be interesting to see how bad she's dominated.
I wouldn't draft her, but sure, bring her in for a workout/tryout.

Agreed. I doubt she is drafted.

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:34 am**

AB_skin_test wrote:
Giff wrote:Absolutely no reason not to do that. In addition to the publicity garnered, it'll be interesting to see how bad she's dominated.
I wouldn't draft her, but sure, bring her in for a workout/tryout.

It can't hurt, but god do I get tired of this argument. It happens every couple of years, whenever there's a dominant women's player. Great, she can kind of dunk - at 6'8". As Greenberg said in that ESPN bit, she could probably be a pretty decent DIII men's player. Maybe.

The whole comparison is a waste of time and really, insulting to women players. Can't they just exist and be judged on their own?

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:41 am**

Shirley wrote:
AB_skin_test wrote:
Giff wrote:Absolutely no reason not to do that. In addition to the publicity garnered, it'll be interesting to see how bad she's dominated.
I wouldn't draft her, but sure, bring her in for a workout/tryout.
It can't hurt, but god do I get tired of this argument. It happens every couple of years, whenever there's a dominant women's player. Great, she can kind of dunk - at 6'8". As Greenberg said in that ESPN bit, she could probably be a pretty decent DIII men's player. Maybe.

The whole comparison is a waste of time and really, insulting to women players. Can't they just exist and be judged on their own?

I seriously doubt there's a woman basketball player out there insulted because Cuban mentioned this or that anyone else would like to see the result. Given they're not, you know, in the grips of the splendor that is womanhood. That said, when is the last time an NBA owner mentioned giving a woman college bball player a workout?

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:52 am**

Giff wrote:I seriously doubt there's a woman basketball player out there insulted because Cuban mentioned this or that anyone else would like to see the result. Given they're not, you know, in the grips of the splendor that is womanhood. That said, when is the last time an NBA owner mentioned giving a woman college bball player a workout?

No, but they are insulted when the question is invariably put to analysts who have to point out how ludicrous it is. Then the debate quickly devolves into charges of sexism and condescension. It's completely predictable.

Women have been given NBA workouts before. Those were also for publicity reasons. Can't remember the last time though. I'm pretty sure Nancy Leiberman got a shot with the Pacers back in the day.

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:01 am**

Rex wrote:When is Spoelstra gonna get hit with that suspension for resting Lebron and Wade?

Was wondering the same thing.

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:02 am**

Shirley wrote:
Giff wrote:I seriously doubt there's a woman basketball player out there insulted because Cuban mentioned this or that anyone else would like to see the result. Given they're not, you know, in the grips of the splendor that is womanhood. That said, when is the last time an NBA owner mentioned giving a woman college bball player a workout?
No, but they are insulted when the question is invariably put to analysts who have to point out how ludicrous it is. Then the debate quickly devolves into charges of sexism and condescension. It's completely predictable.

Women have been given NBA workouts before. Those were also for publicity reasons. Can't remember the last time though. I'm pretty sure Nancy Leiberman got a shot with the Pacers back in the day.

Giving that chick from Tennessee the slam dunk crown was insulting to women.

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:23 am**

Shirley wrote: I'm pretty sure Nancy Leiberman got a shot with the Pacers back in the day.

Ann Meyers. DUH!

Posted: **Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:45 pm**

I'm sure they're much more insulted by the general disregard for women's basketball in general than they are Griner getting a workout.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:25 am**

AB!!! Thomas [sic] Jones, straight from D-League to a double-double! He was very close to two sure-fire SC top 10 plays on put backs.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:37 am**

Giff wrote:AB!!! Thomas [sic] Jones, straight from D-League to a double-double! He was very close to two sure-fire SC top 10 plays on put backs.

He's very good. I'm surprised he has spent all season in the d-league, and I was hoping when they dealt both morris and patterson that he would get more run, but I'm not a coach and also biased. I can see him having a long career as a glue-type guy who rebounds, plays defense and scores a little. Could be a good 3rd/4th option on a team for several years.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:42 am**

AB_skin_test wrote:
Giff wrote:AB!!! Thomas [sic] Jones, straight from D-League to a double-double! He was very close to two sure-fire SC top 10 plays on put backs.
He's very good. I'm surprised he has spent all season in the d-league, and I was hoping when they dealt both morris and patterson that he would get more run, but I'm not a coach and also biased. I can see him having a long career as a glue-type guy who rebounds, plays defense and scores a little. Could be a good 3rd/4th option on a team for several years.

I think after the trades, they wanted to give Motiejunas and Robinson some run, plus Jones had a wrist injury (I believe it was his wrist) that sidelined him for a bit. Robinson hasn't shown much so far and the coaches mentioned how a different light turned on in Jones during his last trip down to Rio Grande.

I'm really impressed with the way the Rockets have been using their D-league this year and the way two of the guys, Jones and D-Mo, have reacted to it. It can be such a useful tool if the players buy in to it. Better to get playing time rather than sitting on the bench, but anytime there's been a chance for extended practice time during the season, they've been sure to call them up so they can get in on that as well.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:29 pm**

I love to see the D league guys come up and do something. It's a mystery to me how the league's worst teams don't capitalize on this more often. They certainly have an edge in signing free agents who don't make NBA rosters in that they offer the fastest track to the NBA.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:29 pm**

How is the Royce White thing going?

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:55 pm**

DC47 wrote:How is the Royce White thing going?

Outta site outta mind it seems. He's played well at times in the D-League and others he's played awful. He's such a unique talent that it will be a shame if he doesn't ever amount to anything. My favorite story of his so far is him taking that damn bus to Santa Cruz from Harlingen, TX. 34 hours (each way). He was ejected from the game.

The Rockets backup PG, Patrick Beverly, has at least one block in eight-straight games. Two have been on fastbreaks where he chased the offensive guy down and swatted it from behind. The one against the Spurs led to a Parsons' three pointer...a five-point swing late in the 4th that put us down 1 instead of down 6 in a game we ultimately won.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:57 pm**

Giff wrote:
DC47 wrote:How is the Royce White thing going?
Outta site outta mind it seems. He's played well at times in the D-League and others he's played awful. He's such a unique talent that it will be a shame if he doesn't ever amount to anything. My favorite story of his so far is him taking that damn bus to Santa Cruz from Harlingen, TX. 34 hours (each way). He was ejected from the game.

The Rockets backup PG, Patrick Beverly, has at least one block in eight-straight games. Two have been on fastbreaks where he chased the offensive guy down and swatted it from behind. The one against the Spurs led to a Parsons' three pointer...a five-point swing late in the 4th that put us down 1 instead of down 6 in a game we ultimately won.

Damn. Fred and Rita didn't have to drive that far for chirstmas!

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:59 pm**

You'd think at that point you'd just let him have the game off.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:07 pm**

Giff wrote:You'd think at that point you'd just let him have the game off.

Except wouldn't that completely undermine the point of BOTH parties? Rockets want him to be available. White says he can drive to games. Blah blah blah.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:14 pm**

AB_skin_test wrote:
Giff wrote:You'd think at that point you'd just let him have the game off.
Except wouldn't that completely undermine the point of BOTH parties? Rockets want him to be available. White says he can drive to games. Blah blah blah.

Well, I thought the issue was him being able to take the bus when feasible. Doesn't seem very necessary to make a D-leaguer travel 68 hours round trip for a game. Either he needs to be able to fly that one or just stay at home.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:22 pm**

Bruce Arthur retweeted that Dwight Howard has missed more free throws this season (332) than Steve Nash has missed in his entire 17 year career (322).

Crazy.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:21 pm**

@Scalabrine wrote:Tired of people challenging me 1on1. Let me be direct. If ur white & not N the NBA u have No chance. If ur a brother, maybe...but i doubt it

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:57 pm**

Sabo wrote:
@Scalabrine wrote:Tired of people challenging me 1on1. Let me be direct. If ur white & not N the NBA u have No chance. If ur a brother, maybe...but i doubt it

Was it here that I watched the videos of Scalabrine playing guys 1 on 1? Some radio station in Boston sponsored it because so many people loved to bash on Scalabrine. They got the best amateur dudes they could to play in 1 on 1, sequentially. I think the games were to 11. The guys they got looked like really good players. But. Really good <<< NBA. He beat the hell out of all of them. The scores were like 11-1, 11-0, 11-0, 11-2.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:59 pm**

What about a woman, though?

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:27 pm**

Shirley wrote:
Sabo wrote:
@Scalabrine wrote:Tired of people challenging me 1on1. Let me be direct. If ur white & not N the NBA u have No chance. If ur a brother, maybe...but i doubt it
Was it here that I watched the videos of Scalabrine playing guys 1 on 1? Some radio station in Boston sponsored it because so many people loved to bash on Scalabrine. They got the best amateur dudes they could to play in 1 on 1, sequentially. I think the games were to 11. The guys they got looked like really good players. But. Really good <<< NBA. He beat the hell out of all of them. The scores were like 11-1, 11-0, 11-0, 11-2.

One of those guys who played Scal for that was a 6'8" former walk-on at Syracuse who was just a couple years out of school. Cumulative score for all four games was 44-6.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:40 pm**

That same radio show had their three hosts play Scalabrine 3-on-1 (winners' outs). Scal beat them 11-1. Even with all three of them trying to guard him, he could just dribble through them or shoot over them.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:33 pm**

Joe K wrote: Even with all three of them trying to guard him, he could just dribble through them

So it wasn't WEEI

Posted: **Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:09 pm**

Posted: **Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:09 am**

Rockets won thanks to a goaltending call at the buzzer on Jermaine O'Neal. First playoff berth since 2009. Not bad for the youngest team in the league.

Posted: **Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:54 am**

Keg wrote:

That's a foul in the NCAA.

Posted: **Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:56 am**

I kow you're just joking but there was a lot more body contact by Burke:

Posted: **Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:02 pm**

Not to go all Zapruder film, but from that angle, you could argue that the contact Burke is making is with his off hand and arm, which is exactly what is in the GIF as well

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