The Swamp

Posted: **Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:41 pm**

Down year for the ACC.

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:25 am**

I think a neat little thing going on right now is last night Kansas won its 2,324th game in program history, the most in NCAA history, and then Carolina won around 2.5 hours later for their 2,324th win to tie them.

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:13 am**

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:25 am I think a neat little thing going on right now is last night Kansas won its 2,324th game in program history, the most in NCAA history, and then Carolina won around 2.5 hours later for their 2,324th win to tie them.

It’s not cool at all!

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:10 pm**

This inevitable UNC-Duke semifinal is gonna make me want to kill myself

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:22 pm**

A_B wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:13 am
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:25 am I think a neat little thing going on right now is last night Kansas won its 2,324th game in program history, the most in NCAA history, and then Carolina won around 2.5 hours later for their 2,324th win to tie them.
It’s not cool at all!

Fake news…. Kansas is number 1 with more than 2,324 wins. UNC is #3. Surprisingly, Temple is #5.

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:13 pm**

teeteebee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:22 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:13 am
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:25 am I think a neat little thing going on right now is last night Kansas won its 2,324th game in program history, the most in NCAA history, and then Carolina won around 2.5 hours later for their 2,324th win to tie them.
It’s not cool at all!
Fake news…. Kansas is number 1 with more je than 2,324 wins. UNC is #3. Surprisingly, Temple is #5.

My bad. I could’ve sworn I’ve seen that Kansas and Carolina were 1-2 during a bumper to a game last week.

Temple started playing in 1894-95. That’s three years after Dr. Naismith first hung the peach baskets. I remember we had a conversation here when UVA won their title a few years back who the best program never to win the NCAAs. I don’t think we came to consensus, but Temple and Oklahoma got a lot of the ink.

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:00 pm**

Looks like Penny is in some extreme hot water in Memphis. Probably good for the school as he is not a good coach at that level.

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:12 pm**

Fuck Duke, but more importantly, fuck the people who thought it was cute to give Grant fucking Hill a microphone to point out his former teammates in the crowd.

Fuke Duck.

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:07 pm**

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:12 pm Fuck Duke, but more importantly, fuck the people who thought it was cute to give Grant fucking Hill a microphone to point out his former teammates in the crowd.

Fuke Duck.

I have full confidence Duke will be just as insufferable next year after Coach K retires.

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:13 pm**

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:07 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:12 pm Fuck Duke, but more importantly, fuck the people who thought it was cute to give Grant fucking Hill a microphone to point out his former teammates in the crowd.

Fuke Duck.
I have full confidence Duke will be just as insufferable next year after Coach K retires.

I mean, it's UNC and Duke in a collision course in the Big Easy semi final game.

Villanova vs Kansas in the other one.

The elephant in the room is the injured Nova guard. Honestly, Duke's the champion unless UNC punks them again.

Duke had this '04 UConn vibe to them tonight. Altered a hilarious # of shots without even touching them. What the hell was Arkansas doing getting that far?

Posted: **Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:22 pm**

We’re a half away against a perennial title contender, but if they make the Final Four and lead The U to becoming a MBB powerhouse, then I’m all for it.

Posted: **Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:19 pm**

duff wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:00 pm Looks like Penny is in some extreme hot water in Memphis. Probably good for the school as he is not a good coach at that level.

I, for one, am shocked, SHOCKED, that Memphis might have been cheating. Again.

Posted: **Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:19 pm**

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:22 pm We’re a half away against a perennial title contender, but if they make the Final Four and lead The U to becoming a MBB powerhouse, then I’m all for it.

woof

Posted: **Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:37 pm**

Shirley wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:19 pm
duff wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:00 pm Looks like Penny is in some extreme hot water in Memphis. Probably good for the school as he is not a good coach at that level.
I, for one, am shocked, SHOCKED, that Memphis might have been cheating. Again.

Except, it's not. This is still a prolonged fight with the NCAA from Wiseman.

Posted: **Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:16 pm**

Tomorrow in the Women's tournament, NC State is #1 seed in their region, but has to play #2 UConn in Bridgeport, Connecticut? I wonder why the #2 seed got bracketed to get what is essentially a home game when they play the top seed?

If I was an NC State person, I'd be pissed about that.

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:16 am**

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:16 pm Tomorrow in the Women's tournament, NC State is #1 seed in their region, but has to play #2 UConn in Bridgeport, Connecticut? I wonder why the #2 seed got bracketed to get what is essentially a home game when they play the top seed?

If I was an NC State person, I'd be pissed about that.

Mens committee avoided this scenario by putting Nova in the south region.

As if UConn needed that extra benefit.

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:34 am**

Yeah, that seeding was a shocker. Plenty of Villanova fans would have been much happier as an East 3 rather than a South 2 which kinda proves the point about home court.

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:42 pm**

I just realized that three of the four possible matchups would be rematches from a prior Final, which only happened once before. Only Nova vs Duke would be a new Final.

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:58 pm**

I believe each team has at least three national titles which is a first for the Final Four

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:37 am**

I'm happy for Shaheen Holloway that he got the Seton Hall gig. But I wonder if his taking that job about 4 minutes after losing to UNC taints the run a bit for St. Peters? Look, we're a big time program too! Oh wait, the millisecond he gets a chance to bolt to a better program, our coach left. :-(

BTW, I have nothing against Holloway and I hope he does well ... but, I'd say it's even odds he never gets to the Elite Eight again.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:46 am**

Coaches jumping in this scenario is so commonplace, I don't think anyone thinks any less of their run. Andy Enfield jumped from Florida-Gulf Coast to USC almost as quickly after taking Dunk City to the Sweet 16.

And no one thinks/thought Saint Peter's is/was "a big time program".

ETA: And there was talk about Holloway being the candidate for Seton Hall when Willard became a candidate for the Maryland job.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:56 am**

Oh none of it surprises me. And I think Cinderella runs are still fun, but there's often a component to the coverage of them - usually by non-normal college hoops media - as if this school is going to suddenly become Gonzaga or something. Then, they lose, their coach leaves, and they never make a remotely similar run again. And more often than not, the coach doesn't parlay that one run into a successful career.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:08 pm**

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:56 am Oh none of it surprises me. And I think Cinderella runs are still fun, but there's often a component to the coverage of them - usually by non-normal college hoops media - as if this school is going to suddenly become Gonzaga or something. Then, they lose, their coach leaves, and they never make a remotely similar run again. And more often than not, the coach doesn't parlay that one run into a successful career.

The former had a long career before his run, but Jim Larranaga and Shaka Smart are fairly successful coaches now.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:26 pm**

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:37 am I'm happy for Shaheen Holloway that he got the Seton Hall gig. But I wonder if his taking that job about 4 minutes after losing to UNC taints the run a bit for St. Peters? Look, we're a big time program too! Oh wait, the millisecond he gets a chance to bolt to a better program, our coach left. :-(

BTW, I have nothing against Holloway and I hope he does well ... but, I'd say it's even odds he never gets to the Elite Eight again.

I think its a little better since he's going back to his alma mater and not saying fuck off for like Providence? But still sucks, especially since everyone knew early he only had one more loss at St. Peter's.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:29 pm**

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:37 am I'm happy for Shaheen Holloway that he got the Seton Hall gig. But I wonder if his taking that job about 4 minutes after losing to UNC taints the run a bit for St. Peters? Look, we're a big time program too! Oh wait, the millisecond he gets a chance to bolt to a better program, our coach left. :-(

The same thing happened with Gonzaga way back in the day. Dan Monson got them to the Elite Eight, then bolted to Minnesota about 10 minutes after the game ended.

Posted: **Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:09 pm**

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:08 pm
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:56 am Oh none of it surprises me. And I think Cinderella runs are still fun, but there's often a component to the coverage of them - usually by non-normal college hoops media - as if this school is going to suddenly become Gonzaga or something. Then, they lose, their coach leaves, and they never make a remotely similar run again. And more often than not, the coach doesn't parlay that one run into a successful career.
The former had a long career before his run, but Jim Larranaga and Shaka Smart are fairly successful coaches now.

I almost listed both of those. Larranaga has been solid at Miami, but hasn't matched the Final Four run he had at George Mason. Not even close until this year.

Shaka Smart left VCU for a school with WAY more resources and never matched that run. He was heading to get fired at Texas before he bolted for a step-down to Marquette. Good coach, maybe even very good, but he hasn't proven to be a great coach. He's lost his last 7 NCAA tournament games.

Posted: **Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:52 pm**

The Defector post running down Coach K's tourney losses is a delight.

Coach K’s 30 NCAA Tournament Losses, Ranked From Delightful To Even More Delightful

I argue with their selection for #1 (CAL 82, DUKE 77—1993 (Second Round) - The Jason Kidd game) though...for me its gotta be UNLV 103, DUKE 73–1990 (Championship). That was a complete ass-whupping that was so bad Bobby Hurley had shark nightmares for months afterwards.

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:40 pm**

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:52 pm The Defector post running down Coach K's tourney losses is a delight.

Coach K’s 30 NCAA Tournament Losses, Ranked From Delightful To Even More Delightful

I argue with their selection for #1 (CAL 82, DUKE 77—1993 (Second Round) - The Jason Kidd game) though...for me its gotta be UNLV 103, DUKE 73–1990 (Championship). That was a complete ass-whupping that was so bad Bobby Hurley had shark nightmares for months afterwards.

The very idea of that article and the title are funny enough. But the article was a fun read as well, even if I don't count myself as a true Duke hater. I actually liked Duke when I first started following college hoops as they were completely harmless. Then, I really like Johnnie Dawkins, so they were my second-favorite ACC team. That started to change during the Laettner-Hurley days as I (and pretty much everyone who watched college hoops in those days) got really sick of hearing how great they were.

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:33 pm**

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:40 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:52 pm The Defector post running down Coach K's tourney losses is a delight.

Coach K’s 30 NCAA Tournament Losses, Ranked From Delightful To Even More Delightful

I argue with their selection for #1 (CAL 82, DUKE 77—1993 (Second Round) - The Jason Kidd game) though...for me its gotta be UNLV 103, DUKE 73–1990 (Championship). That was a complete ass-whupping that was so bad Bobby Hurley had shark nightmares for months afterwards.
The very idea of that article and the title are funny enough. But the article was a fun read as well, even if I don't count myself as a true Duke hater. I actually liked Duke when I first started following college hoops as they were completely harmless. Then, I really like Johnnie Dawkins, so they were my second-favorite ACC team. That started to change during the Laettner-Hurley days as I (and pretty much everyone who watched college hoops in those days) got really sick of hearing how great they were.

Same here. But the Laettner-Hurley teams had the Hills, and they were really hard to hate.

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:56 pm**

I think this game is Kansas in a walk.

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:12 pm**

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:40 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:52 pm The Defector post running down Coach K's tourney losses is a delight.

Coach K’s 30 NCAA Tournament Losses, Ranked From Delightful To Even More Delightful

I argue with their selection for #1 (CAL 82, DUKE 77—1993 (Second Round) - The Jason Kidd game) though...for me its gotta be UNLV 103, DUKE 73–1990 (Championship). That was a complete ass-whupping that was so bad Bobby Hurley had shark nightmares for months afterwards.
The very idea of that article and the title are funny enough. But the article was a fun read as well, even if I don't count myself as a true Duke hater. I actually liked Duke when I first started following college hoops as they were completely harmless. Then, I really like Johnnie Dawkins, so they were my second-favorite ACC team. That started to change during the Laettner-Hurley days as I (and pretty much everyone who watched college hoops in those days) got really sick of hearing how great they were.

I remember cheering for Duke in the '78 Finals against Kentucky (the Goose Givens game). That was a fun team (Banks, Spanarkel, Gminski), but it was long before K was there.

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:32 pm**

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:12 pm
Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:40 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:52 pm The Defector post running down Coach K's tourney losses is a delight.

Coach K’s 30 NCAA Tournament Losses, Ranked From Delightful To Even More Delightful

I argue with their selection for #1 (CAL 82, DUKE 77—1993 (Second Round) - The Jason Kidd game) though...for me its gotta be UNLV 103, DUKE 73–1990 (Championship). That was a complete ass-whupping that was so bad Bobby Hurley had shark nightmares for months afterwards.
The very idea of that article and the title are funny enough. But the article was a fun read as well, even if I don't count myself as a true Duke hater. I actually liked Duke when I first started following college hoops as they were completely harmless. Then, I really like Johnnie Dawkins, so they were my second-favorite ACC team. That started to change during the Laettner-Hurley days as I (and pretty much everyone who watched college hoops in those days) got really sick of hearing how great they were.
I remember cheering for Duke in the '78 Finals against Kentucky (the Goose Givens game). That was a fun team (Banks, Spanarkel, Gminski), but it was long before K was there.

18 months?

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 6:15 pm**

A_B wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:32 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:12 pm
Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:40 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:52 pm The Defector post running down Coach K's tourney losses is a delight.

Coach K’s 30 NCAA Tournament Losses, Ranked From Delightful To Even More Delightful

I argue with their selection for #1 (CAL 82, DUKE 77—1993 (Second Round) - The Jason Kidd game) though...for me its gotta be UNLV 103, DUKE 73–1990 (Championship). That was a complete ass-whupping that was so bad Bobby Hurley had shark nightmares for months afterwards.
The very idea of that article and the title are funny enough. But the article was a fun read as well, even if I don't count myself as a true Duke hater. I actually liked Duke when I first started following college hoops as they were completely harmless. Then, I really like Johnnie Dawkins, so they were my second-favorite ACC team. That started to change during the Laettner-Hurley days as I (and pretty much everyone who watched college hoops in those days) got really sick of hearing how great they were.
I remember cheering for Duke in the '78 Finals against Kentucky (the Goose Givens game). That was a fun team (Banks, Spanarkel, Gminski), but it was long before K was there.
18 months?

Hah...I was in 8th grade! I didn't realize that K was hired so soon after that game.

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 6:55 pm**

IMO, if it weren't for Jay Wright, this Villanova team would be losing by 30 points right now. Undersized, under-manned, and when Kansas hits 3s like that?

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 7:15 pm**

brian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:56 pm I think this game is Kansas in a walk.

That late first half rally by 'Nova coincided with me turning on the game, seeing the margin was 18, and failing to find something else to watch. Turner Networks owes me some scratch for making it close enough to get people to stay for the second half.

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 7:56 pm**

BIG FELLA

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:21 pm**

Anyone ever been to Guster?

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:38 pm**

Did a Duke fan just flash a racist hand symbol while celebrating a 3 point shot?

(I've seen Guster - they were good 15 years ago. Not a fan of their stuff lately)

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:41 pm**

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:38 pm Did a Duke fan just flash a racist hand symbol while celebrating a 3 point shot?

(I've seen Guster - they were good 15 years ago. Not a fan of their stuff lately)

Duke hit a three and the fan put up three fingers. Don’t think there’s anything to make of that.

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:55 pm**

teeteebee wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:41 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:38 pm Did a Duke fan just flash a racist hand symbol while celebrating a 3 point shot?

(I've seen Guster - they were good 15 years ago. Not a fan of their stuff lately)
Duke hit a three and the fan put up three fingers. Don’t think there’s anything to make of that.

She spread her last three fingers while pinching her index finger to her thumb.

You're probably right though.

The Swamp

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