Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:34 pm
by mister d
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:57 pmYou're seriously saying that Biden speaking for public consumption in the middle of a national political campaign is analogous to a parent talking to his child?
I’m seriously saying what’s being portrayed as a neutral or positive statement is clearly not so. “I won’t block it” is like one step to the left of a republican promising to block it.
The clear answer will come if things go right from November to January. If they do and Trump and family are pursued for their nonstop crimes in office, we can revisit this and I will wholeheartedly apologize for reading his comment as the perpetual reach-across-the-aisle-to-heal-and-move-on this Dem leadership fetishizes.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:57 pmYou're seriously saying that Biden speaking for public consumption in the middle of a national political campaign is analogous to a parent talking to his child?
I’m seriously saying what’s being portrayed as a neutral or positive statement is clearly not so. “I won’t block it” is like one step to the left of a republican promising to block it.
The clear answer will come if things go right from November to January. If they do and Trump and family are pursued for their nonstop crimes in office, we can revisit this and I will wholeheartedly apologize for reading his comment as the perpetual reach-across-the-aisle-to-heal-and-move-on this Dem leadership fetishizes.
“I won’t block it” is the strongest statement anyone who values the rule of law should be saying.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:58 pm
by mister d
And if that were the entire quote ...
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:30 am
by mister d
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:32 am
by HaulCitgo
Love that. Hurt the bible, hurt.... God.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:50 am
by Nonlinear FC
I know Simon (and his wife) very well from our time at the DLC. Very sharp guy, who spent a lot of his time at that organization fighting with powers that be, and eventually leaving because he disagreed with a lot of their "split the middle, suck up to corporate dollar" approach. He influenced me into getting the heck out of there (even though it was unwitting on his part.)
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:14 am
by Johnnie
This all makes me so depressed, annoyed, and angry.
If the Democrats take this thing and there isn't a major reckoning with people going to jail and it's a simple "moving forward" from the past, I'm just not going to vote ever again.
One party is so conspicuously corrupt and the other does nothing to stop it. I don't feel like being complicit if there's no accountability.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:22 pm
by Steve of phpBB
I bet you guys who think the Dems are a bunch of corporate centrist surrender monkeys feel pretty silly now ...
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:24 pm
by DSafetyGuy
You're right. I completely trust every word that comes out of Barr's mouth.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:36 pm
by psunate77
Word is Biden is going to get a huge endorsement this week that could get him a W in a swing state..
My guess, is Bush will endorse Biden and he will win Texas. Bush's officials have already endorsed Biden, and I believe his daughter has too.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:05 pm
by Steve of phpBB
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:24 pm
You're right. I completely trust every word that comes out of Barr's mouth.
He’s the Attorney General. Of the United States. He’d never lie.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:35 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Barr also says Trump is always working. We know that to be true, right?
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:42 am
by The Sybian
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:35 pm
Barr also says Trump is always working. We know that to be true, right?
Have you ever tried to watch an entire episode of Fox and Friends? Harder than any job I've ever held.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
I doubt this will happen but what the Democrats really need is a James Polk-type candidate to come in and say "I'm going to run for president to help heal the country and I'm only going to serve one term and I'm going to have a vice president who will be the standard bearer in 2024".
That perfect ticket in that scenario would be Biden-Harris.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:39 pm
by cerrano
Wanted Abrams (to get Georgia) or Duckworth but I’m not unhappy with this pick. I think it helps more than hurts. California is already in the bag, but this will make things very interesting.
Damn Brian! Can you tell me the powerball numbers for the next drawing?
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:41 pm
by brian
She checks most of the boxes the Dems need. Guess the lesson is if you make enough predictions you'll be right once in a while.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:44 pm
by Johnnie
That was quick: (Obviously, they made 12 of those, but still.)
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:46 pm
by brian
Nominating a black woman gives Trump a new lightning rod, but this one is capable of zapping back. Looking forward to her being the designated assassin, while Uncle Joe floats above the fray and remains "presidential" (our classic understanding of presidential)
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:49 pm
by Nonlinear FC
She will light their collective asses up. Like a lot of ppl, she got my attention at the Kavanagh hearings.
She doesn't mess.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:49 pm
by brian
Trump hates women, he especially hates black women and he definitely hates strong, black women, so from that standpoint alone this is a home run.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:50 pm
by Nonlinear FC
brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:46 pm
Nominating a black woman gives Trump a new lightning rod, but this one is capable of zapping back. Looking forward to her being the designated assassin, while Uncle Joe floats above the fray and remains "presidential" (our classic understanding of presidential)
As depressing as the 25-30 percent of racist Americans are, it is not a winning strategy to be outright racist as fuck.
Trump got a TON of leeway in 2016 on this issue, because we hadn't had to live through 3.5 years of this utter fuckery. People are tired of it. Sick and tired.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:54 pm
by P.D.X.
Just googled her resume and the wiki listing had her as "Cuntala". Fixed now of course.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:54 pm
by mister d
brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:46 pmLooking forward to her being the designated assassin, while Uncle Joe floats above the fray and remains "presidential" (our classic understanding of presidential)
This is one thing we can agree on. Pick anyone from the list of Abrams/AOC/Ilhan/Pressley/Tlaib/etc and they could all do an equal or better job punching back, but they don't have the benefit of the press already deciding whose side their on. The exact same words from Harris will get different mainstream treatment than from one of the others mentioned.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
I doubt this will happen but what the Democrats really need is a James Polk-type candidate to come in and say "I'm going to run for president to help heal the country and I'm only going to serve one term and I'm going to have a vice president who will be the standard bearer in 2024".
That perfect ticket in that scenario would be Biden-Harris.
I kinda assumed that was the plan - though maybe I assumed that because of Brian’s post. That’s why I’ve been anti-Warren as VP. She’ll be 75 in 2024.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:00 pm
by P.D.X.
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Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:01 pm
by cerrano
brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:49 pm
Trump hates women, he especially hates black women and he definitely hates strong, black women, so from that standpoint alone this is a home run.
Wouldn’t it be great to see Pence squirm in the VP debate if Kamela pulled a Trump and started following Mike around the stage. “Mother, forgive me for being this close to another woman in public!!! No, that was a pen in my pocket! I swear!”
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:49 pm
Trump hates women, he especially hates black women and he definitely hates strong, black women, so from that standpoint alone this is a home run.
Wouldn’t it be great to see Pence squirm in the VP debate if Kamela pulled a Trump and started following Mike around the stage. “Mother, forgive me for being this close to another woman in public!!! No, that was a pen in my pocket! I swear!”
You think Pence gets erections from being close to women?
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:49 pm
Trump hates women, he especially hates black women and he definitely hates strong, black women, so from that standpoint alone this is a home run.
Wouldn’t it be great to see Pence squirm in the VP debate if Kamela pulled a Trump and started following Mike around the stage. “Mother, forgive me for being this close to another woman in public!!! No, that was a pen in my pocket! I swear!”
You think Pence gets erections from being close to women?
Fair point. But Indian/Jamaican is so exotic in Indiana, he can’t not be titillated.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:06 pm
by brian
Furiously refreshing Twitter to see what idiotic nickname the Troll In Chief will try to apply to Kamala. Praying it's racist.
Re: 2020: The Democratic Presidential Nomination Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:10 pm
by Johnnie
'Kampala Harris' is trending. Presumably because that's the capital of Uganda and autocorrect hates Democrats.