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That's what happens when you have an uneducated group of people who can't form a sentence to speak their thoughts, they just set things on fire and destroy there own town (thumbs up emoticon)
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*NFL guy writes big ass post about Ferguson. Much Jesus.
Several comments ensue. Most say "you should write a book!"
One guy "Someone already wrote it. It's call the Bible, and the author's name was Jesus Christ!"

If you're going to spew religious bullshit, at least have some background on your source.
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BSF21 wrote:*NFL guy writes big ass post about Ferguson. Much Jesus.
Several comments ensue. Most say "you should write a book!"
One guy "Someone already wrote it. It's call the Bible, and the author's name was Jesus Christ!"

If you're going to spew religious bullshit, at least have some background on your source.
But Jesus is God, so they aren't wrong.
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No, no, no...God only wrote the few parts that sort of indicate we should try to be nice. The parts like where they tell you to smash babies heads against rocks...those were written by morally and culturally irrelevant goat herders who were set out to corrupt the word of the Lord.
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Now the parent posted this because she was upset but just in a "OMG they grow up so fast" kind of way, but still proud that her 9 year old daughter is so smart. I obviously think it's awesome but then the comments...
That's terrible!

Too smart for her own good!

I tell my kids if you don't believe you won't receive!

Kinda sad, really.
I'm all like...I can't despise you people any more than I do right now.


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I tell my kids if you don't believe you won't receive!
Wow. This is the one that gets me. forcing a kid to decide between using logic and sharing their intellectual thoughts with you or getting presents for Christmas. Then again, it isn't much different than "believe Jesus is your savior or go to hell."
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It's "hear" you little smartypants.
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That's my basic take as of right now. As soon as Q figures it out, she's in on the joke with very harsh punishment if she spills it to the new one. Lying or taking the "trust me and don't think because I said so" approach seems harmful.
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Although, if she was real smart and she's getting 40 bucks for a fucking tooth, she'd probably just play along.
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mister d wrote:That's my basic take as of right now. As soon as Q figures it out, she's in on the joke with very harsh punishment if she spills it to the new one. Lying or taking the "trust me and don't think because I said so" approach seems harmful.
I think that the most awesome things about kids is the way see so much wonder in things that we tend to find mundane but yeah...I don't think we should buy into the idea that vacuous credulity is synonymous with childhood. Nothing wrong with fantasy but there's a fuck-ton of things left to be in awe over after you've figured out that magic isn't real.
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mister d wrote:That's my basic take as of right now. As soon as Q figures it out, she's in on the joke with very harsh punishment if she spills it to the new one. Lying or taking the "trust me and don't think because I said so" approach seems harmful.
My oldest daughter was awesome in this regard. Once she knew she could tell us EXACTLY what she wanted it was golden.
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In a similar note, we do the Elf on the Shelf thing. Elfie made his return this past weekend, and my 5 year old daughter wasn't buying it. My 7 year old son is stretching his imagination to allow himself to keep the magic alive. He has taken over the role of explaining to my daughter. I had a hard time with the Santa lies when my son was young, but my wife really wanted to give them to excitement of believing, so I played along. When he was 5, he said he didn't think Santa was real, because it didn't make sense for some guy he doesn't know to fly around the world to give him presents. I asked him if Santa wasn't giving him presents, who did he think they came from. "I don't know, maybe Grandma and Grandpa, that makes more sense." I was proud, and told him the truth. I got in a lot of trouble with the wife over that, and she convinced him Santa was real.

Back to the Elf, my daughter kept saying he looks like a toy, and has toy hair, how can he move by himself. She was really pushing it, but caved to my son's explanation of magic. she is still leery, but the excitement of finding him every morning and seeing what crazy adventure he had the night before wins out. I will create a thread and post the pics. We have a lot of fun creating scenes. Last year, Elfie brought his girlfriend, a felt gingerbread man, around with him. This year, as Sofia the First doll is his girlfriend. My daughter doesn't understand how Elfie can be real, but have a toy as a girlfriend. They both look like toys, so how can one turn into a real person? Magic. And if it doesn't make sense or we can't explain something, it is because Elfie doesn't want us to know how it works.
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Oops, forgot to put the fucking elf out last night. Shit.
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Ours has been sitting in the same spot for like 5 nights now. No one seems to care.
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mister d wrote:Ours has been sitting in the same spot for like 5 nights now. No one seems to care.
The fucking elf most of all, clearly!
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mister d wrote:Ours has been sitting in the same spot for like 5 nights now.
Me too. My underwear and socks are pretty psyched for Christmas at this point.
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You guys are lucky. My kid is all over that shit. You can't miss a beat.
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Jerloma wrote:You guys are lucky. My kid is all over that shit. You can't miss a beat.
That's why I'm pissed at myself. I probably blew it already.
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I can't take credit. I forget basically every night. Fortunately the wife gets up at 6:00 every morning.
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The Sybian wrote:My daughter doesn't understand how Elfie can be real, but have a toy as a girlfriend.
I know some websites you can show her to help clarify.
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Shirley wrote:
The Sybian wrote:My daughter doesn't understand how Elfie can be real, but have a toy as a girlfriend.
I know some websites you can show her to help clarify.
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Just read a post that said "Almost back to working out -- At (Crossfit Location)"

and then two replies after asking if she was sick or hurt, the response was "Kinda both...I had rhabdo."

Yes, it's time to get back working out at the crossfit gym.
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The Sybian wrote:In a similar note, we do the Elf on the Shelf thing. Elfie made his return this past weekend, and my 5 year old daughter wasn't buying it. My 7 year old son is stretching his imagination to allow himself to keep the magic alive. He has taken over the role of explaining to my daughter. I had a hard time with the Santa lies when my son was young, but my wife really wanted to give them to excitement of believing, so I played along. When he was 5, he said he didn't think Santa was real, because it didn't make sense for some guy he doesn't know to fly around the world to give him presents. I asked him if Santa wasn't giving him presents, who did he think they came from. "I don't know, maybe Grandma and Grandpa, that makes more sense." I was proud, and told him the truth. I got in a lot of trouble with the wife over that, and she convinced him Santa was real.

Back to the Elf, my daughter kept saying he looks like a toy, and has toy hair, how can he move by himself. She was really pushing it, but caved to my son's explanation of magic. she is still leery, but the excitement of finding him every morning and seeing what crazy adventure he had the night before wins out. I will create a thread and post the pics. We have a lot of fun creating scenes. Last year, Elfie brought his girlfriend, a felt gingerbread man, around with him. This year, as Sofia the First doll is his girlfriend. My daughter doesn't understand how Elfie can be real, but have a toy as a girlfriend. They both look like toys, so how can one turn into a real person? Magic. And if it doesn't make sense or we can't explain something, it is because Elfie doesn't want us to know how it works.

Way to teach your kids that the Elf has a new girlfriend each year. When are you going to explain the concept of a mistress to them?
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Brontoburglar wrote:Just read a post that said "Almost back to working out -- At (Crossfit Location)"

and then two replies after asking if she was sick or hurt, the response was "Kinda both...I had rhabdo."

Yes, it's time to get back working out at the crossfit gym.

Reminds me I had a question to ask you. Are you familiar with stronglifts? I found it and I kinda built my own thing with that as my base. I do a mix of that + circuit type stuff + some crazy stuff I saw on a Youtube video with Mike Rashid called overtrain chest and I'm almost jacked again!

Also, any suggestions for creatine? I am going to try Rule 1 protein on a friend suggestion. This is as serious as I've gymmed since 2009 when I had a bench competition with Klompus that fizzled out in like a month.
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You're overhead pressing with your shoulder issue?

And creatine is creatine pretty much. You can get 600 grams from Optimum Nutrition for like $15 on Amazon.
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Brontoburglar wrote:You're overhead pressing with your shoulder issue?

And creatine is creatine pretty much. You can get 600 grams from Optimum Nutrition for like $15 on Amazon.

Yes, the doc said I can do whatever I can do. I can do dips 90% of the way down and overhead presses and everything. The only place I have limitations is on squats, which I'm told is due to the unusual location of the tear. But even that is getting better.

And anything that strengthens the shoulder is probably beneficial.
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Brontoburglar wrote:You're overhead pressing with your shoulder issue?

And creatine is creatine pretty much. You can get 600 grams from Optimum Nutrition for like $15 on Amazon.

Yes, the doc said I can do whatever I can do. I can do dips 90% of the way down and overhead presses and everything. The only place I have limitations is on squats, which I'm told is due to the unusual location of the tear. But even that is getting better.

And anything that strengthens the shoulder is probably beneficial.
You're lucky -- a lot of people with shoulder issues get banished from overhead lifts for a long time/life.

How long have you been doing the SL base? I'd add some variation in there if you've been doing it for 4-6 months and you're looking for hypertrophy. Going 6x3/5x5/3x10 over the 3x per week is a good start, or you can even go 5x5/3x10/3x15 if you wanted to. You'll then just want to go really high reps on the circuit stuff at the end of the 3x15 workout.
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Just a month and a half at this point. I only do ten reps on the circuit stuff, I'll lower the weight and bump it up to see how that works.
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There are many ways to injure a shoulder, so all advice from someone who doesn't know about a specific condition should be taken as something to look into, at best. But here's mine, for what it's worth. I'm simply passing along what doctors and physical therapists have told me over the decades. They have seemed like pretty sharp people with good explanations behind their advice. I wish I had heard this when I originally messed up my shoulder in the 70s. When I follow their advice, I generally do OK.

I was told that there are nine good exercises for the deltoids and muscles in the upper back that stabilize the shoulder capsule. Two of them were the highest priority -- internal and external rotations (with elbow fixed at hip). The other seven include shoulder and inverted flys in several planes, two types of rows, and the face pull. Obviously the number is actually higher, as there are variations on devices (e.g., weights, machines, bands), angles (e.g., band directions, incline, decline), and specific technique (e.g., hand position).

I was told that overhead presses were a bad idea for pretty much everyone with problems in the shoulder capsule, simply because of the anatomy of that area. To a lesser extent, the same with dips, chest flys and the bench press. I do these exercises now and then, but with a much lower-than-usual percentage of my max (theoretical, as I'd never attempt to find my actual max) in the case of the overhead press and benching, and a limited range of motion on the flys and dip.

Are these limitations annoying? Hell yes. Moreso when I was burdened by the vanity of a 30 year old. But even now, when I see other guys doing what I shouldn't do at the gym. Some people long to eat a good steak. I long for the feeling of doing a full-range chest fly with loaded dumbells. Really loaded. But I'm never going to ski out of bounds at Aspen again. And I'm never going to load up the dumbells and hit the bench. Downside >>>> Upside.

Do I wish I had followed this advice more? Hell yes. I'd have spent a lot less time unable to play sports over the past 40 years. And I'd have a lot more functionality today. Including a lot more ability to do challenging lifts.

Something I've learned over the years: If good advice was easy to follow, it wouldn't really be 'good advice.' It would be common sense. Good advice worth it's salt has obvious and large downsides. But any old guy with half a brain will tell you, it would be wise to follow good advice as young as possible. Especially about things where you don't really get full second chances. Like your body.
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JFC people, I'm just going on what the doctor who actually performed the surgery just told me.

My shoulder problem is mild as far as shoulder problems are concerned.
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To each their own, of course.

But what I've learned about shoulders over the years, from people who seem smart to me, is that the shoulder is the most unique and weakest joint in the body. It's a ball and socket form, designed for an amazing range of motion. This has the downside of making it fragile. If you stress the shoulder capsule, over time the odds are high that it will break down. It doesn't take much to stress it. And once broken, it can't be repaired to perfect order.

I would take any advice from any shoulder surgeon with the greatest of grains of salt, and seek other opinions. Especially if they tell you that 'it's all fixed now' due to the wonders of surgery, and you can blissfully return to the things that other smart, experienced people, who don't have the 'break it - fix it' mindset of surgeons, believe to be high risk.
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It's not "all fixed now". I'm not even allowed to lightly throw anything until late January. But the labrum is fixed to the point that I can lift things over my head.
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DC47 wrote:
I would take any advice from any shoulder surgeon with the greatest of grains of salt, and seek other opinions.
Ain't that the truth. I saw several surgeons who all wanted to perform different surgeries. Went with 2 different surgeons' PT regimes with physical therapist, one including regular cortisone injections. None of it helped. One dude wanted to shave the bone. Finally had them scoped and the doc found both labrums torn. It took 10 years to get that diagnosis. Could barely throw a ball, and when I did, I had to stop within a few minutes. took a couple years to become pain free, and my shoulder still occasionally goes out from motions like playing squash. Feels like something gets stuck in the joint then pushed through by the continued motion. Hurts like hell, makes a loud pop, then my arm goes numb for 10 minutes.

I still have issues lifting. Any press, back exercise and some triceps always hurt my shoulders before I feel the muscle burn. I have never had an issue, post surgery, injuring anything lifting, but it seriously limits the weight I can do. I have no need to bulk up, so lower weight is fine. I still get a good enough workout.
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DC47 wrote:Hell yes. Moreso when I was burdened by the vanity of a 30 year old.
I would gladly bear the burden of a 30yo Vanity:

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I'm glad your surgery went well. Sometimes they find an unfortunate surprise when they open you up.

To be clear, by "now" I didn't mean shortly after the surgery. I'm referring to the general attitude that surgery makes it all better. Back to something very close to new. In my view, this is often less true than surgeons claim. And this is very much so with the shoulder capsule. But of course, I may be wrong regarding your specific injury. Based on what I have learned, I wouldn't assume any surgeon is 100% right about how solid the shoulder is if it's been seriously injured. And I find it hard to believe that any shoulder requiring surgery has been only mildly injured.

Also to be clear, I would never say that anyone with a shoulder injury shouldn't lift "things." I am suggesting that lifting (or throwing, or many other) movements that cause a pretty high level of stress to the shoulder capsule poses significant risk for just about everyone with a shoulder injury -- and most people who don't (yet) have one.

The arm is a long lever that serves to multiply force. The shoulder is a ball and socket, designed for maximum flexibility in multiple planes rather than stability. This posed no significant problem for our ancient ancestors. But the shoulder just wasn't designed for the forces placed on it by many of our modern day sporting-type activities which use the long lever of the arm. It's perhaps the single area of the human body that we should handle with the most restraint. Okay, perhaps it's the second.
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howard wrote:
DC47 wrote:Hell yes. Moreso when I was burdened by the vanity of a 30 year old.
I would gladly bear the burden of a 30yo Vanity:

(My dear boy, Vanity was this lo-talent singer from the 80s. Well, as JoeBob would say, she had two big talents.)
Well of course. I think I read something about her just a few years back. She's off the drugs, has a major health problem and has found her lord. And still looks very nice.
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Brontoburglar wrote:Just read a post that said "Almost back to working out -- At (Crossfit Location)"

and then two replies after asking if she was sick or hurt, the response was "Kinda both...I had rhabdo."

Yes, it's time to get back working out at the crossfit gym.
Ugh. This is why CrossFit gets a bad rap. I really hope her coaches tell her to stay out of the gym for a while. You'd think that your muscles breaking down, turning your piss brown, and your kidneys working overtime would give someone the hint. So fucking dumb.
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DC47 wrote:
I would take any advice from any shoulder surgeon with the greatest of grains of salt, and seek other opinions.
Ain't that the truth. I saw several surgeons who all wanted to perform different surgeries. Went with 2 different surgeons' PT regimes with physical therapist, one including regular cortisone injections. None of it helped. One dude wanted to shave the bone. Finally had them scoped and the doc found both labrums torn. It took 10 years to get that diagnosis. Could barely throw a ball, and when I did, I had to stop within a few minutes. took a couple years to become pain free, and my shoulder still occasionally goes out from motions like playing squash. Feels like something gets stuck in the joint then pushed through by the continued motion. Hurts like hell, makes a loud pop, then my arm goes numb for 10 minutes.

I still have issues lifting. Any press, back exercise and some triceps always hurt my shoulders before I feel the muscle burn. I have never had an issue, post surgery, injuring anything lifting, but it seriously limits the weight I can do. I have no need to bulk up, so lower weight is fine. I still get a good enough workout.
After decades of on-and-off shoulder trouble, doctors, and physical therapy the most useful PT advice I've gotten is to regularly work on the specific muscles that do the most stabilize the shoulder capsule. I was told these are little known and mostly invisible (so not fun for the vanity lifters). They are hard to work with exercise; that is, most common upper body routines don't work them very much because other muscles are bearing the load. These four rotator cuff stabilizers are: infraspinitus, suprasinitus, teres minor, and subscapularis. I'm not actually sure about the last one, but picked it up from the diagram here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotator_cuff; I may have learned about it under a different name, long ago.

Further, my understanding is that the standard upper body exercise routines create muscle imbalances by focusing on large, visible muscles, especially on the front of the body. These imbalances mean that greater stress can be imposed on the shoulder, but that the stabilizing muscles haven't been strengthened enough to handle them.

If you do the exercises that focus on these four muscles, do you have the problem of pain prior to feeling the muscle burn?
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