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Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-4 CHEDDA***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:44 am
by mister d
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Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:11 am
by govmentchedda
Great choice

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:17 am
by mister d
I had three different albums in three very different categories and your choice pushed me into this one.



(Changed the wording to avoid an easy ...)

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-2 PDX***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:56 am
by P.D.X.
EnochRoot wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:58 pm
P.D.X. wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:25 pm Hey fuck you guys. And Carole King. I'll take the river down to still water and ride a pack of dogs.

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(I honestly didn't know until now that this came out the same day as Nevermind. What a great era for music. Also, you guys remember when albums were only released on Tuesdays and you'd always be in the know about what was coming out that week?)
BadMotorFinger is infinitely better than Nevermind.
As much as I liked all their contemporaries, Nirvana never really clicked for me. Cobain worship is baffling. (I do like the unplugged album though.)

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:02 am
by rass
HINT - It's because he's dead.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:04 am
by duff
rass wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:02 am HINT - It's because he's dead.
It was there before Courtney killed him.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:08 am
by L-Jam3
At the risk of a threadjack:

I think Kobain falls more in the "Transformative talent who had a lot more available but died too young group" with Jimi, Ledger, Len Bias group than "Overrated because he died young" side of the... er... ledger like Pac, Morrison, James Dean, and Reggie Lewis. I go back and forth on JFK.


ETA: Thinking about it, calling Ledger "transformative" is a stretch. Really fucking talented yes, but that might be a little much. Maybe Philip Seymour Hoffman in that first group instead.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:11 am
by govmentchedda
You've misplaced Pac.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:13 am
by L-Jam3
Pac is the Morrison of Hip-Hop and I will go to my grave to defend it.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-4 CHEDDA***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:28 am
by Shirley
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:08 am Image

The first perfect album selected in this draft.
I often surprise myself with just how much I love that album. Just a random work of genius.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:50 am
by Nonlinear FC
Nonlinear FC would like to request a point of order from the Commissioner and/or his appointed counsel. (Not sure why we're suddenly under Robert's Rules, but whatever.)

Let's say an artist is a renowned song-writer. Let's say he's put out over a dozen albums with the vast majority consisting of songs he's penned. But, let's say your favorite original track lands on an album that consists almost entirely of duets of songs that are not that artists original music?

This pick wouldn't come up for quite some time, just in terms of urgency. (My next pick is up today, most likely, but this question doesn't need to be dealt with for probably a month, given the fucking glacial pace.)

I'll hang up and listen to the answer on air.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 am
by EnochRoot
L-Jam3 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:08 am At the risk of a threadjack:

I think Kobain falls more in the "Transformative talent who had a lot more available but died too young group" with Jimi, Ledger, Len Bias group than "Overrated because he died young" side of the... er... ledger like Pac, Morrison, James Dean, and Reggie Lewis. I go back and forth on JFK.


ETA: Thinking about it, calling Ledger "transformative" is a stretch. Really fucking talented yes, but that might be a little much. Maybe Philip Seymour Hoffman in that first group instead.
You see I don't necessarily buy he was a transformative talent at that point in time. He was a really good songwriter. He wasn't Bob Dylan. Probably a tick or two below Neil Young. What set him into the 'transformative' stratosphere is how FM radio reacted to Nirvana's music by nuking hair bands off the radio. It was more a middle finger to Guns n Roses and Motley Crue than it was artistic mettle, IMHO..

Here's where I have a problem with Nirvana: I wasn't listening to hair bands anyway. I was a DJ at my college radio station. So I kinda viewed this from the outside looking in the entire time. They were a fun band to have in the rotation, but there was nothing earth shattering to them. They wound up spawning a genre of bands that really sucked though. So they had that going for them. You know..the angst for no reason crap.

I don't mean to undercut Cobain. The unfortunate thing about his suicide is how the demons that surrounded him took away his next chapter where he'd have earned his place among the greats. I like to think he'd have distanced himself from Nirvana (hiatus, etc) to write some solo stuff because we all know Dave Grohl is A-OK with milking a dead cow.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-4 CHEDDA***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:56 am
by EnochRoot
Shirley wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:28 am
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:08 am Image

The first perfect album selected in this draft.
I often surprise myself with just how much I love that album. Just a random work of genius.
It's a fantastic LP. They rocked a singing saw for crying out loud.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:58 am
by mister d
L-Jam3 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:13 am Pac is the Morrison of Hip-Hop and I will go to my grave to defend it.
Fuck yes. I'm riding shotgun(!!!) on this mission.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-4 CHEDDA***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:59 am
by Ryan
EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:56 am
Shirley wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:28 am
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:08 am Image

The first perfect album selected in this draft.
I often surprise myself with just how much I love that album. Just a random work of genius.
It's a fantastic LP. They rocked a singing saw for crying out loud.
I'll admit that I had to image search the album cover just to know who it was, but once I did I...still had no opinion

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:01 am
by Nonlinear FC
EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 am
L-Jam3 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:08 am At the risk of a threadjack:

I think Kobain falls more in the "Transformative talent who had a lot more available but died too young group" with Jimi, Ledger, Len Bias group than "Overrated because he died young" side of the... er... ledger like Pac, Morrison, James Dean, and Reggie Lewis. I go back and forth on JFK.


ETA: Thinking about it, calling Ledger "transformative" is a stretch. Really fucking talented yes, but that might be a little much. Maybe Philip Seymour Hoffman in that first group instead.
I was a DJ at my college radio station.
Ah.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:04 am
by mister d
"So its kind of a concept album about Anne Frank and the Holocaust but ... like where he's in love with her ... and also his voice takes a bit of getting used to. But I promise its an all-time great."

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:07 am
by EnochRoot
Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:01 am
EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 am
L-Jam3 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:08 am At the risk of a threadjack:

I think Kobain falls more in the "Transformative talent who had a lot more available but died too young group" with Jimi, Ledger, Len Bias group than "Overrated because he died young" side of the... er... ledger like Pac, Morrison, James Dean, and Reggie Lewis. I go back and forth on JFK.


ETA: Thinking about it, calling Ledger "transformative" is a stretch. Really fucking talented yes, but that might be a little much. Maybe Philip Seymour Hoffman in that first group instead.
I was a DJ at my college radio station.
Ah.
Pretty much LOL

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:07 am
by Rush2112
I was a college DJ as well right when Nirvana and Dolittle were dropping (at least in Vermont.) Enjoyed Nirvana's first album. Hated (and hate) the Pixies.

As far as In An Aeroplane Over The Sea goes, I remember listening to it for the first time and remarking how fucking great it was. That's a very rare occurrence.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-4 CHEDDA***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:09 am
by EnochRoot
Ryan wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:59 am
EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:56 am
Shirley wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:28 am
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:08 am Image

The first perfect album selected in this draft.
I often surprise myself with just how much I love that album. Just a random work of genius.
It's a fantastic LP. They rocked a singing saw for crying out loud.
I'll admit that I had to image search the album cover just to know who it was, but once I did I...still had no opinion
Give Apples in Stereo a listen.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:38 am
by sancarlos
I'll do some cleanup on classic rock. And, I believe this absolutely takes Rod Stewart off the board.

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Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:42 am
by mister d
Legit never heard of that band.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-7 SANCARLOS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:49 am
by sancarlos
mister d wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:42 am Legit never heard of that band.
Ha ha, you kids slay me. They are in the R&R Hall of Fame. And, their members all continued on to further big things after the band folded. I trust you know of Rod Stewart. He was a great blues rock singer, before he became a professional celebrity. Their guitar player, Ronnie Wood later joined the Rolling Stones. Their drummer, Kenny Jones replaced Keith Moon in The Who. Their bassist Ronnie Lane later did an album with Pete Townshend. Their keyboardist Ian MacLagen later toured with many different big names. More info, if you care

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:51 am
by mister d
Absolutely know the components. Give me their biggest song to see if I just thought it was Rod solo or something.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:52 am
by sancarlos
Stay with me was the biggest under the Faces name.


Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:54 am
by Ryan
mister d wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:51 am Absolutely...Give me the..biggest...something.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:57 am
by bfj
Opportunity missed.
mister d wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:51 am Absolutely... Give me the...biggest...Rod...or something.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-4 CHEDDA***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:58 am
by bfj
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:08 am Image

The first perfect album selected in this draft.
Listening now for the first time in forever and it reminds me of the Violent Femmes.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:04 pm
by P.D.X.
sancarlos wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:52 am Stay with me was the biggest under the Faces name.

Hmm.


Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:05 pm
by mister d
Ok, I definitely know those.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:17 pm
by sancarlos
Ooh La La was sung by Ronnie Lane, btw. Sadly he died young of MS. As he was dying, there was a tribute concert that featured guys like Clapton, Beck, Page, members of the Stones, and many others, which spoke to his stature.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-4 CHEDDA***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:33 pm
by A_B
Ryan wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:59 am
EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:56 am
Shirley wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:28 am
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:08 am Image

The first perfect album selected in this draft.
I often surprise myself with just how much I love that album. Just a random work of genius.
It's a fantastic LP. They rocked a singing saw for crying out loud.
I'll admit that I had to image search the album cover just to know who it was, but once I did I...still had no opinion
I don’t know what it is

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:39 pm
by rass
1. Do a swamp search for bapo milk. After you’re done laughing at spell check correcting bapo to ball, change it back and search.

2. Ignore the results about stouts

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:46 pm
by EnochRoot
sancarlos wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:17 pm Ooh La La was sung by Ronnie Lane, btw. Sadly he died young of MS. As he was dying, there was a tribute concert that featured guys like Clapton, Beck, Page, members of the Stones, and many others, which spoke to his stature.
Great synopsis of The Faces, btw.

Couple things I'd add:

Ron Wood sang it, though Lane and Wood penned it. (Ooh La La)

The Faces were actually a second iteration of the band 'Small Faces', which had Steve Marriott as their front man (Humble Pie) as well as Ronnie Lane and Kenny Jones, Ian McLaglan.

Excuse me while I take a walk over to Itchycoo Park...TO GET HIGH!

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:53 pm
by sancarlos
EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:46 pm
sancarlos wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:17 pm Ooh La La was sung by Ronnie Lane, btw. Sadly he died young of MS. As he was dying, there was a tribute concert that featured guys like Clapton, Beck, Page, members of the Stones, and many others, which spoke to his stature.
Great synopsis of The Faces, btw.

Couple things I'd add:

Ron Wood sang it, though Lane and Wood penned it. (Ooh La La)

The Faces were actually a second iteration of the band 'Small Faces', which had Steve Marriott as their front man (Humble Pie) as well as Ronnie Lane and Kenny Jones, Ian McLaglan.

Excuse me while I take a walk over to Itchycoo Park...TO GET HIGH!
Yep, you are right on Wood. I love the Small Faces, too (as readers of the Old Timey Music thread know). Could be a future draft choice for me.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:53 pm
by Rush2112
EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:46 pm
Excuse me while I take a walk over to Itchycoo Park...TO GET HIGH!
One of my guilty pleasure songs.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:08 pm
by EnochRoot
It’s got that sugary-60s-pop vibe to it (I like it too). They flexed their real chops though on Ogdens’ Nut Gone Flake though (that eponymously titled track was only 2+ minutes. That thing should’ve crawled on for 20 minutes to do it justice though)...

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:11 pm
by sancarlos
EnochRoot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:08 pm It’s got that sugary-60s-pop vibe to it (I like it too). They flexed their real chops though on Ogdens’ Nut Gone Flake though (that eponymously titled track was only 2+ minutes. That thing should’ve crawled on for 20 minutes to do it justice though)...
Yeh, songs like that one and Lazy Sunday are ok, but Tin Soldier, All or Nothing, Afterglow, are so much more...

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:39 pm
by Nonlinear FC
Time limit and skipping starting in Round 4.

Re: Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick ***3-8 DiS***

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:41 pm
by duff
Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:39 pm Time limit and skipping starting in Round 4.
Until posted by honorable Howard and/or Mr. D, STFU.