Gunpowder's Gold Star Trivia

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:14 am

I never remember this guy

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:20 am

Gunpowder wrote:Lefty Grove

jk

Carlton?

Nope.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:27 am

Black dude.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:37 pm

Jerloma wrote:Black dude.

Vida Blue?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:39 pm

Damn, it is Blue. I typed that earlier and deleted it before posting - thought he only had one good year.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:54 pm

Samardzija should start for both teams tonight to make it five

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:57 pm

Ryan wrote:Rick Reuschel

Was only in the AL for half a season.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:02 pm

Gunpowder wrote:
Jerloma wrote:Black dude.
Vida Blue?

Yup.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:41 pm

Of all post-WWII players to have NEVER made an MLB all-star team, who has the highest career OPS (.884)?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:51 pm

"Name a 90s slugger"

Richard Hidalgo?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:54 pm

Edwin Encarnacion

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:57 pm

Matt Stairs

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:58 pm

Gunpowder wrote:Of all post-WWII players to have NEVER made an MLB all-star team, who has the highest career OPS (.884)?

There's a good hint for this once it goes without a correct answer.

*I cheated.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:58 pm

Tony Phillips

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:04 pm

There's no funny business regarding minimum at bats right?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:24 pm

Yeah, fuckin' Brock Holt!

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:26 pm

Pronk Hafner

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:27 pm

This has to be a current/recent DH who is not Ortiz.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:02 pm

Nope. You've all heard of him.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:57 pm

Lyman Bostock?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:23 pm

Sorry for forgetting I posted this. Chedda, go ahead and give them your hint.

It's the 90s era but not someone you'd think of and say "slugger", and certainly a guy I would have expected to have made an All Star team.

Tony Phillips has the most career WAR by a non-All Star.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:24 pm

DC47 wrote:Lyman Bostock?

On-base Plus Slugging, not Outfield Players Shot.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:26 pm

Being shot shortens careers, which may be a reason why a player who could hit that well didn't make an all-star team. Also, a short career can keep the career OPS high.

Another angle is that this guy played a position with a lot of good hitters. So:

Alvin Davis, Seattle first-baseman in the 80s

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:26 pm

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:27 pm

This career started in the early 90s and ran into the 2000s.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:41 pm

Guys who have come to mind but I believe either don't quite fit that time frame of were too likely to be all-stars:

Richie Sexson
Leon Durham
Moises Alou
Brian Giles
Kevin Mitchell
Jay Buhner
trot Nixon

So I'll guess all of them, to speed this up a bit.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:58 pm

None of those guys. Getting late:

TIM SALMON

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:06 pm

I would have believed >5 for Salmon before I believed 0.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:16 pm

I agree. Way too good, right off the bat in his career, to not make an all-star team. It was an era with a lot of heavy-hitting corner outfielders, but this is still a big surprise. Was he a notoriously slow starter, so his stats didn't look good in early July?

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:40 pm

How on earth did Salmon not make the All-Star team in either 1995 or 1997?

1995: .330/.429/.594, 34 HRs, 105 RBI, 111 Rs
1997: .296/.394/.517, 33 HRs, 129 RBI, 95 Rs

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:44 pm

Joe K wrote:How on earth did Salmon not make the All-Star team in either 1995 or 1997?

1995: .330/.429/.594, 34 HRs, 105 RBI, 111 Rs
1997: .296/.394/.517, 33 HRs, 129 RBI, 95 Rs

His 1995 splits aren't crazy either, so it's not like he had a stupid post-ASG run

And I know they needed a SS, but Gary DiSarcina was on that All-Star team and not Salmon

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:02 pm

I'm really having trouble reconciling this. I would have knee-jerk assumed he had an overrated career in terms of rewards relative to value.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:08 pm

251 OFs have 3,000+ PA since 1985, Salmon is 13th in wOBA. Between Griffey Jr. and Juan-Gone. That's pretty f'ing good.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:37 pm

And yet he's already not even the best Angel with a fish for a last name anymore

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:49 pm

Gunpowder wrote:None of those guys. Getting late:

TIM SALMON

My hint was that he was rookie of the year.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:53 pm

Pat Listach.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:05 pm

Ryan wrote:And yet he's already not even the best Angel with a fish for a last name anymore

Did they get Mike Carp?

They've got an outfielder in the Midwest League name of Mike Fish. Perhaps they'll have a Carp-Trout-Fish outfield next year.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:02 am

DC47 wrote:
Ryan wrote:And yet he's already not even the best Angel with a fish for a last name anymore
Did they get Mike Carp?

They've got an outfielder in the Midwest League name of Mike Fish. Perhaps they'll have a Carp-Trout-Fish outfield next year.

It was awesome when Bass pitched to Trout a couple weeks ago.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:37 am

Giff wrote:
DC47 wrote:
Ryan wrote:And yet he's already not even the best Angel with a fish for a last name anymore
Did they get Mike Carp?

They've got an outfielder in the Midwest League name of Mike Fish. Perhaps they'll have a Carp-Trout-Fish outfield next year.
It was awesome when Bass pitched to Trout a couple weeks ago.

No doubt he threw his hook and nibbled at the corners, hoping Trout would bite.

Must have been a fun moment for the announcers. An opportunity to make the Pun Hall of Fame.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:03 pm

govmentchedda wrote:
Gunpowder wrote:None of those guys. Getting late:

TIM SALMON
My hint was that he was rookie of the year.

I would have guessed Eric Karros to that.