The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:44 am

Woke up to another blisteringly cold day, and suddenly had a feeling that something like this would happen.

As psychic flashes go, not too surprising, but still disconcerting to have the president of the United States sounding like the dumbest man in the room.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 7229701120

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:39 pm

I'm not up on my gang signs. Is this legit?

https://twitter.com/sahluwal/status/946487879059902464

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:23 pm

Yes, that is a known White Power sign.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:41 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:Yes, that is a known White Power sign.

But buddy claims he is proud if his "Jewish heritage."

Is this true, or is this like saying he has a "Jew lawyer?"

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:07 pm

Well, holy shit. And googling "white power sign" gets you numerous pictures of pro Trump trolls flashing it.

Naturally some of those photos are juxtaposed with non white supremacists doing the same thing and then being condescending about it.

I always thought that was the "ok" hand signal. Even John Cena used it for his "hustle, loyalty, respect" logo.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:54 pm

Johnnie wrote:I always thought that was the "ok" hand signal.

It was. Just like Pepe the Frog used to just be a frog (I think?).

Anyway, it seems that when the white nationalists do the W sign, they do the thumb-and-forefinger in a weird way, so it doesn't really look like an "O".

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:33 pm

Johnnie wrote:Well, holy shit. And googling "white power sign" gets you numerous pictures of pro Trump trolls flashing it.

Naturally some of those photos are juxtaposed with non white supremacists doing the same thing and then being condescending about it.

I always thought that was the "ok" hand signal. Even John Cena used it for his "hustle, loyalty, respect" logo.

The Tweet is removed, so I didn't see it, but I've heard the OK sign is a trolling thing from millennial Alt-Right guys. They started doing it to laugh at Libtards freaking out that the OK sign was a White Power sign.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:17 am

The Sybian wrote:
Johnnie wrote:Well, holy shit. And googling "white power sign" gets you numerous pictures of pro Trump trolls flashing it.

Naturally some of those photos are juxtaposed with non white supremacists doing the same thing and then being condescending about it.

I always thought that was the "ok" hand signal. Even John Cena used it for his "hustle, loyalty, respect" logo.

The Tweet is removed, so I didn't see it, but I've heard the OK sign is a trolling thing from millennial Alt-Right guys. They started doing it to laugh at Libtards freaking out that the OK sign was a White Power sign.

Sounds precisely how white power ideals get to hold on in plain sight at the close of the year 2017.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:09 pm

this is pretty large: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/p ... oulos.html

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:39 pm

So was the Trump campaign staffed with a bunch of incompetent fuckups?
Did they think they couldn't get caught?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:40 pm

Avram wrote:So was the Trump campaign staffed with a bunch of incompetent fuckups?
Did they think they couldn't get caught?

Pretty much a rhetorical question by now.

It all comes from the top. Think of Trump denigrating the FBI and belittling the CIA - what kind of an idiot picks a fight with these groups?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:32 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:this is pretty large: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/p ... oulos.html

When I saw Benjamin Wittes post this, I knew it was must read material.

https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/stat ... 4133107713

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:26 pm

Pruitt wrote:
Avram wrote:So was the Trump campaign staffed with a bunch of incompetent fuckups?
Did they think they couldn't get caught?

Pretty much a rhetorical question by now.

It all comes from the top. Think of Trump denigrating the FBI and belittling the CIA - what kind of an idiot picks a fight with these groups?

Yeah, we've been talking about this since the spring of 2016. Especially when it comes to foreign policy, no one of any consequence wanted to align themselves with Trump. They were desperate to fill out a team, so complete shitty, unqualified and in the case of guys like Manafort and those in his circle, dirty/corrupt people got dropped in all over the place.

Now, I knew they were incompetent back then... I had no idea until we got to the convention just how stupid they were. Fucking with the platform to take a pro-Russia stance after all his weird overtures to Putin really only made sense if something shady as fuck was going on.

It is still going to be very difficult to prosecute anyone for all this. Unless there are some significant other shoes to drop.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:46 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:It is still going to be very difficult to prosecute anyone for all this. Unless there are some significant other shoes to drop.

I agree here.

However, every major Intel agency plus the FBI and CIA are following the money with this shit. There have been 4 indictments. There are concurrent state level investigations being pursued in case of some blanket pardons. Mueller has a serious fucking Justice League assembled. And if Mueller is removed (and by extension Rosenstein), there might be an actual violent revolt.

I'm just hoping Nunes, Jordan, and a significant chunk of the GOP gets engulfed in this too. It would be beautiful.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:04 pm

Johnnie wrote:... there might be an actual violent revolt.

I will bet you 200 bitcoins that any "revolt" would max out with some moderate rallies in select major cities.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:04 pm

Johnnie wrote:
I'm just hoping Nunes, Jordan, and a significant chunk of the GOP gets engulfed in this too. It would be beautiful.

That is one if my fervent dreams. Those guys are lower than pond scum

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:56 am

Brontoburglar wrote:this is pretty large: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/p ... oulos.html

The true lesson: Drinking with Australians can only lead to problems.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:41 am

DaveInSeattle wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:this is pretty large: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/p ... oulos.html

The true lesson: Drinking with Australians can only lead to problems.

I guess the Aussie drank him under the table

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:50 pm

Avram wrote:
DaveInSeattle wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:this is pretty large: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/p ... oulos.html

The true lesson: Drinking with Australians can only lead to problems.

I guess the Aussie drank him under the table

Yah...that'll happen (speaking from experience).

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:57 pm

https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/947973250079952896

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:17 am

Wow! Someone's cranky this morning.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 3882927104

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:20 am

My kids are too. Tough to go back after a long break.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:14 am

Dammit, I was going to take credit for this!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 02657?s=17

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:38 am

America owes you a debt of gratitude Johnnie!

And by the way...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 8472089600

Isn't "Hispanics" a bit of a slur when used in this way?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:24 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:this is pretty large: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/p ... oulos.html

I read a FoxNews article about this NYT article that popped into my news feed. One of the worst written, insincere articles I've ever seen. The premise was that the NYT can't handle the truth, that Trump is innocent, and since the Steele dossier was proven fake, they need to invent a new reason for the FBI to have begun an investigation. They seem to misunderstand the difference between "not 100% verified" and disproven. Also seems probable that in a matter this enormous, new facts and evidence will come out. I'm just glad they didn't have a comment section on the site, I would have lost my mind.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:18 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:this is pretty large: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/p ... oulos.html

I just looked up this Downer guy. Not only is he Australia's Ambassador to the UK, but he was a leader of one of the major parties down under, as well as being the Minister of Foreign Affairs for more than a decade. His jaw must have dropped when this pisher from the trump campaign started telling him this stuff.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:28 pm

I love the smell of nuclear war in the morning.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 7022420992

I mean, it's funny. But, like, not coming from him.

Honest question and the only one the news needs to all from here out: Are there any fucking adults in the White House?

In that tone. To any surrogates that appear on their programs.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:38 pm

Johnnie wrote:I love the smell of nuclear war in the morning.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 7022420992

I mean, it's funny. But, like, not coming from him.

Honest question and the only one the news needs to all from here out: Are there any fucking adults in the White House?

In that tone. To any surrogates that appear on their programs.

She tried to warn us...

http://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/statu ... 8439286784

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:35 am

This is disconcerting: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ous-216202

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:21 am

Square Rob wrote:This is disconcerting: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ous-216202

Sweet Jesus...

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:44 am

Pass. I don't have it in my right now.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:14 am

Pruitt wrote:
Square Rob wrote:This is disconcerting: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ous-216202

Sweet Jesus...

and that was before he got into the dick fight over the size of his nuclear button

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:55 am

Book about Trump's White house has juicy shit from Steve Bannon
comes out next week

http://www.pajiba.com/politics/steve-ba ... sonous.php

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:59 am

So does Bannon (1) flat deny saying, (2) strategically deny saying it to invalidate the book or (3) claim he was just fucking with the author. I'm assigning about 0% to "stand by the quote and force a wedge between Bannonites and Trump".

Post by **brian** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:01 am

Bannon is essentially at war with the White House (if not Trump himself), so I assume the truth is he may not actually totally believe the quotes but will full-throatedly stand behind them.

(And for whatever it's worth, he's probably right about Kushner. He's got to have a whole cemetery worth of skeletons in the closet financially.)

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:15 am

I'm here for this.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:54 am

brian wrote:
(And for whatever it's worth, he's probably right about Kushner. He's got to have a whole cemetery worth of skeletons in the closet financially.)

like father and father in law like son

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:44 pm

this is insane

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:51 pm

This oped in today's NYTimes, from FusionGPS, the company responsible for the Steele Dossier, is absolutely bananas...

The Republicans’ Fake Investigations

We suggested investigators look into the bank records of Deutsche Bank and others that were funding Mr. Trump’s businesses. Congress appears uninterested in that tip: Reportedly, ours are the only bank records the House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed.

We told Congress that from Manhattan to Sunny Isles Beach, Fla., and from Toronto to Panama, we found widespread evidence that Mr. Trump and his organization had worked with a wide array of dubious Russians in arrangements that often raised questions about money laundering. Likewise, those deals don’t seem to interest Congress.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:05 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:this is insane

Gives us this tidbit:

She treated her father with a degree of detachment, even irony, going so far as to make fun of his comb-over to others. She often described the mechanics behind it to friends: an absolutely clean pate — a contained island after scalp-reduction surgery — surrounded by a furry circle of hair around the sides and front, from which all ends are drawn up to meet in the center and then swept back and secured by a stiffening spray. The color, she would point out to comical effect, was from a product called Just for Men — the longer it was left on, the darker it got. Impatience resulted in Trump’s orange-blond hair color.

And also that Ivanka thinks she's going to be the first woman president.