The Swamp

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:57 pm First having Chappelle on the goodnights, and then Nikki Haley, and then Gillis, who was fired after his sets where he talks about gays and Asians come to light? If they're trying to get Bowen Yang to quit, then this is one way to do it.

Yeah, why was Chappelle there? That was really really strange. We always watch the goodnight and the first thing we noticed was how Diva-ish JLo was being for, like the first full 60 seconds after the music came on... Waving to the crowd like Queen E while everyone else is hugging.

But, yeah, as the pan back and there's Chappelle and we're like... WTF??

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:13 am

Johnnie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:19 pm Nothing will ever come close to racist for me the way Ari Shaffir did The Amazing Racist 20ish years ago before he became more well known.

Rounding up Mexicans at Home Depot and then driving to the immigration office. Going to a Asian restaurant dressed as a geisha and asking "What kind of Chinese" everyone was. That shit was wild.

Watch sitcoms from the 80s and you'll see what can no longer pass today. One of Cheers' biggest moments was when Sam and Diane were seriously slapping each other across the face. Hell, Blazing Saddles was one of the funniest movies of all time and it'd never get made today. Society evolves.

I get the evolution of what is acceptable, and often I think progress is great. Take for example, the rapey comedy films of the 80s. I can't fathom how everyone was ok with it. Something like Blazing Saddles I see as a shame that we can't make jokes about race. Sure, the old lady threw out the N-word, but the reason behind the scene was to make fun of racists. If Mel Brooks wasn't so old, I'm sure there would've been a movement to cancel him. Another shame is that a show like All in the Family can't get on the air today. I think it made huge strides in bring race issues to the national conversation, and in a way that again, made the racist the butt of the jokes. It shows racism for the senseless fear-driven ignorance that it is. Why hide it? Rip off the curtain and display the idiocy for what it is.

Which gets me to another point, SJWs attacking people for saying/doing things that were acceptable at the time they said/did it. Allow for the fact that people can change with the times. When I was a kid, every threw around the word "retarded." We didn't know it was offensive, and when society made it known it was offensive, most people stopped using it.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:56 am When I was a kid, every threw around the word "retarded." We didn't know it was offensive, and when society made it known it was offensive, most people stopped using it.

There was an institution in my hometown whose official name was the State Home for the Mentally Retarded.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:08 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:56 am When I was a kid, every threw around the word "retarded." We didn't know it was offensive, and when society made it known it was offensive, most people stopped using it.

There was an institution in my hometown whose official name was the State Home for the Mentally Retarded.

They later changed the name to the Grand Junction Republican Party. *drumroll*

tennbengal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:14 am What We Do in the Shadows is fucking hilarious and only gets better as the seasons go. Jackie Daytona forever.

Just got to the Jackie Daytona episode. Holy shit that was hilarious. The episode right before it (Colin Robinson gets a promotion) was by far my favorite episode, until I watched Jackie Daytona. There was a Colin Robinson line a few episodes before it that killed me. They are all taking about their past, Colin looks at the camera and says, "I don't even know what my deal is." It killed me, because I can't figure out if he is a vampire or just a really boring person, so him saying he doesn't know was great.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:56 am
Which gets me to another point, SJWs attacking people for saying/doing things that were acceptable at the time they said/did it. Allow for the fact that people can change with the times. When I was a kid, every threw around the word "retarded." We didn't know it was offensive, and when society made it known it was offensive, most people stopped using it.

Ryerson University in Toronto had its name changed because the guy it's named after supported educating and converting Indigineous people to Christianity. This was in 1820. Also some thinking that he wasn't anti-slavery enough. (in political terms - no slavery in Canada at the time.)

So now, it's Toronto Metropolitan University. A weak name, but not worth getting worked up over.

So why was a university named after Egerton Ryerson in the first place?

Ryerson is considered to be the founder of the Ontario public school system. An advocate against Christian sectarianism and control of Upper Canada by the wealthy Anglican elite, Ryerson staunchly opposed Clergy Reserves and promoted a system of free public education in Canada.

But you know, in 2020 he'd be considered an asshole.

I'm not gonna claim to have done ANY research, but... If Ryerson is more than just adjacent to the horrible history of "converting" first nation ppl... That might be revisionist, but holy shit is that not a good look.

Again, I don't know what his deal was... But that's a very fraught history.

Eg Ryerson? Needlenosed Eg, eg the head?

We're really enjoying Mr. and Mrs. Smith on Amazon... I never really paid attention to the earlier iterations, but gather they are the kind of standard "couple pretends to be normal, but, actually... SPIES!" trope.

This is a pretty interesting twist. Both actors are killing it so far (3 episodes in).

Mr. and Mrs. Smith on Amazon...not a bad series. Good characters and likeable actors. Different than the Brad -Angelina movie. Elements of the Atlanta episodes I liked.

He really hasn't missed a beat.

In tweets, articles, etc., the media that I follow (caveat) seemed to all be united in their opinion that him coming back to TDS was underwhelming, not needed, etc. Kinda surprised by that. Isn't he exactly what lefties need right now as a counterbalance to the MSM still not knowing how to handle a Trump candidacy? And if he's not, who is covering that beat currently?

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:49 am In tweets, articles, etc., the media that I follow (caveat) seemed to all be united in their opinion that him coming back to TDS was underwhelming, not needed, etc. Kinda surprised by that. Isn't he exactly what lefties need right now as a counterbalance to the MSM still not knowing how to handle a Trump candidacy? And if he's not, who is covering that beat currently?

Nice job saying what the real problem is without saying it.

Anyone still watching "Masters Of The Air"?

Just watched Episode 5...and wow...how nutty was it for those guys to bail out of a flaming B-17 as its going down?

And I was trying to think which would have been the worst crew position...and its gotta be either the waist gunners or the poor dude stuck in the ball turret.

I am…I still think it’s great.

Any of the gunner positions would be horrible…you’re just so exposed.

GoodKarma wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:44 pm I am…I still think it’s great.

Yeah, I think its great. The CGI gets a little janky in spots, but I can look past that.

Any of the gunner positions would be horrible…you’re just so exposed.

Or the bombardier...sure, I sit here in a glass bubble, totally exposed, as I try to hit a railyard from 30,000 ft.

The podcast "We have ways of making you talk" (a WWII history podcast with historian James Holland) has been doing a series on the "Mighty 8th".

Finally, all these years later, tried Fargo - TV version. Season 1 was, indeed, pretty damn awesome. On to season 2 now.

So....did anyone watch the last episode of "True Detective"?

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I liked it. Things came together a bit neatly, but the little touch of the supernatural was good.

And they really made it look fucking cold.

But one quibble...there's no way Jodie Foster would have survived breaking through the ice like that.

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:19 pm Finally, all these years later, tried Fargo - TV version. Season 1 was, indeed, pretty damn awesome. On to season 2 now.

Season 1 is still my favorite of all of seasons. Billy Bob Thornton is such a great villain and Martin Freeman’s character’s evolution (devolution?) showed some great acting.

I’ve liked every season except season four.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:39 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:19 pm Finally, all these years later, tried Fargo - TV version. Season 1 was, indeed, pretty damn awesome. On to season 2 now.

Season 1 is still my favorite of all of seasons. Billy Bob Thornton is such a great villain and Martin Freeman’s character’s evolution (devolution?) showed some great acting.

I’ve liked every season except season four.

Was 4 the Chris Rock season? I wasn't a big fan of that one either.

Season 2 was fun. Hanzee was a great character.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:39 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:19 pm Finally, all these years later, tried Fargo - TV version. Season 1 was, indeed, pretty damn awesome. On to season 2 now.

Season 1 is still my favorite of all of seasons. Billy Bob Thornton is such a great villain and Martin Freeman’s character’s evolution (devolution?) showed some great acting.

I’ve liked every season except season four.

maybe best BBT role? And that is saying something. Just...pure unstrained understated evil.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:47 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:39 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:19 pm Finally, all these years later, tried Fargo - TV version. Season 1 was, indeed, pretty damn awesome. On to season 2 now.

Season 1 is still my favorite of all of seasons. Billy Bob Thornton is such a great villain and Martin Freeman’s character’s evolution (devolution?) showed some great acting.

I’ve liked every season except season four.

Was 4 the Chris Rock season? I wasn't a big fan of that one either.

Season 2 was fun. Hanzee was a great character.

I liked the Chris Rock season, but I'd say it wasn't as good as the others. Haven't seen the most recent yet.

Season 4 had Timothy Olyphant so it is automatically not bad.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:28 pm So....did anyone watch the last episode of "True Detective"?

I did and agree...I don't think this season was near as bad as the internets are saying. Problem is nothing can touch season 1 so anything else is going to fail in comparison.

True Detective S4

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The buildup was OK enough, and the supernatural stuff was ‘eh’. The Wendigo vibes ala Dark Winds was a hit/miss. Maybe it was just too much. The cleaning crew going nuts and destroying all the research was an eyeroll for me. There’s zero chance they wouldn’t have left fingerprints all over that facility. Where was the investigation? And yeah, a couple of middle-aged women falling 20 feet onto the ground - they’re going to have broken legs, ribs, even vertebrae. The last episode knocked the season from a 6.5 down to a 5.

John Oliver offered to pay Clarence Thomas a million dollars a year until one of them dies and a $2.4 million motor coach if he retires within 30 days. He makes $300 k a year from SCOTUS. Completely legit contract.

Jerloma wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:50 pm John Oliver offered to pay Clarence Thomas a million dollars a year until one of them dies and a $2.4 million motor coach if he retires within 30 days. He makes $300 k a year from SCOTUS. Completely legit contract.

I’d take that deal.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:18 pm

GoodKarma wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:44 pm I am…I still think it’s great.

Yeah, I think its great. The CGI gets a little janky in spots, but I can look past that.

Any of the gunner positions would be horrible…you’re just so exposed.

Or the bombardier...sure, I sit here in a glass bubble, totally exposed, as I try to hit a railyard from 30,000 ft.

The podcast "We have ways of making you talk" (a WWII history podcast with historian James Holland) has been doing a series on the "Mighty 8th".

We're still watching it, but it's so intense (at times) that I can tell we're kind of subconsiously spacing things out.

And the underbelly gunner is the worst.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:25 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:47 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:39 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:19 pm Finally, all these years later, tried Fargo - TV version. Season 1 was, indeed, pretty damn awesome. On to season 2 now.

Season 1 is still my favorite of all of seasons. Billy Bob Thornton is such a great villain and Martin Freeman’s character’s evolution (devolution?) showed some great acting.

I’ve liked every season except season four.

Was 4 the Chris Rock season? I wasn't a big fan of that one either.

Season 2 was fun. Hanzee was a great character.

I liked the Chris Rock season, but I'd say it wasn't as good as the others. Haven't seen the most recent yet.

I feel like I should go back and watch S4 again. For some reason, despite this being one of my favorite shows, that season just didn't ever catch my attention.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:29 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:25 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:47 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:39 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:19 pm Finally, all these years later, tried Fargo - TV version. Season 1 was, indeed, pretty damn awesome. On to season 2 now.

Season 1 is still my favorite of all of seasons. Billy Bob Thornton is such a great villain and Martin Freeman’s character’s evolution (devolution?) showed some great acting.

I’ve liked every season except season four.

Was 4 the Chris Rock season? I wasn't a big fan of that one either.

Season 2 was fun. Hanzee was a great character.

I liked the Chris Rock season, but I'd say it wasn't as good as the others. Haven't seen the most recent yet.

I feel like I should go back and watch S4 again. For some reason, despite this being one of my favorite shows, that season just didn't ever catch my attention.

I'd say it was a weird season, but they all are weird.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:29 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:25 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:47 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:39 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:19 pm Finally, all these years later, tried Fargo - TV version. Season 1 was, indeed, pretty damn awesome. On to season 2 now.

Season 1 is still my favorite of all of seasons. Billy Bob Thornton is such a great villain and Martin Freeman’s character’s evolution (devolution?) showed some great acting.

I’ve liked every season except season four.

Was 4 the Chris Rock season? I wasn't a big fan of that one either.

Season 2 was fun. Hanzee was a great character.

I liked the Chris Rock season, but I'd say it wasn't as good as the others. Haven't seen the most recent yet.

I feel like I should go back and watch S4 again. For some reason, despite this being one of my favorite shows, that season just didn't ever catch my attention.

I feel like I should give the Ewan McGregor season another try. I remember watching the first couple of episodes but never following up on it.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:27 am

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:18 pm

GoodKarma wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:44 pm I am…I still think it’s great.

Yeah, I think its great. The CGI gets a little janky in spots, but I can look past that.

Any of the gunner positions would be horrible…you’re just so exposed.

Or the bombardier...sure, I sit here in a glass bubble, totally exposed, as I try to hit a railyard from 30,000 ft.

The podcast "We have ways of making you talk" (a WWII history podcast with historian James Holland) has been doing a series on the "Mighty 8th".

We're still watching it, but it's so intense (at times) that I can tell we're kind of subconsiously spacing things out.

And the underbelly gunner is the worst.

This has gotten harder to watch after learning that my wife's grandfather was part of a B-17 crew based in England during the last year and a half of the War. He was a waist gunner and a top turret gunner at various times.

He was shot down, held as a POW, liberated, and lived to a ripe old age. He apparently didn't talk very much about what he did during the war, but he went to church every day, and he surprised everyone by crying tears of joy when his sons' draft lottery numbers came back high.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:32 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:27 am

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:18 pm

GoodKarma wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:44 pm I am…I still think it’s great.

Yeah, I think its great. The CGI gets a little janky in spots, but I can look past that.

Any of the gunner positions would be horrible…you’re just so exposed.

Or the bombardier...sure, I sit here in a glass bubble, totally exposed, as I try to hit a railyard from 30,000 ft.

The podcast "We have ways of making you talk" (a WWII history podcast with historian James Holland) has been doing a series on the "Mighty 8th".

We're still watching it, but it's so intense (at times) that I can tell we're kind of subconsiously spacing things out.

And the underbelly gunner is the worst.

This has gotten harder to watch after learning that my wife's grandfather was part of a B-17 crew based in England during the last year and a half of the War. He was a waist gunner and a top turret gunner at various times.

He was shot down, held as a POW, liberated, and lived to a ripe old age. He apparently didn't talk very much about what he did during the war, but he went to church every day, and he surprised everyone by crying tears of joy when his sons' draft lottery numbers came back high.

Wow...that's intense.

Years ago, I had a dentist who when I mentioned that I had worked at Boeing right out of college told me "Boeing Airplanes saved my life". When I looked confused he told me he'd been on a B-17 crew over Europe and they would always come back so shot up that it was a miracle that the plane could fly at all.

I've got a whole thing teed up about the children of the ww2 generation being full of serial killers. But I don't feel like typing it all out.

Those dudes didn't know from mental health and PTSD and the vast majority dealt with horrendous situations (repeatedly) and then came home and just bottled it up.

Anybody catch any of Monsieur Spade on AMC, starring Clive Owen? It is about Dashiel Hammett’s private detective Sam Spade (made famous by Humphrey Bogart in the 1941 film noir, The Maltese Falcon), but it is 20 years later, he’s living in retirement in France, and he gets caught up in a local intrigue.

It’s a bit slow, but it gets better as it goes along. Owen does a good impression of an aging Bogart, which helps.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:40 pm Anybody catch any of Monsieur Spade on AMC, starring Clive Owen? It is about Dashiel Hammett’s private detective Sam Spade (made famous by Humphrey Bogart in the 1941 film noir, The Maltese Falcon), but it is 20 years later, he’s living in retirement in France, and he gets caught up in a local intrigue.

It’s a bit slow, but it gets better as it goes along. Owen does a good impression of an aging Bogart, which helps.

Yes. I think Owen's delivery is a little too deliberately noir, but overall I thought it was pretty good.

Watching Masters of the Air Episode 5.

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Fuck. Every one of these 8th AF guys was a redshirt.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:54 pm Watching Masters of the Air Episode 5.

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Fuck. Every one of these 8th AF guys was a redshirt.

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Wife basically went upstairs a couple weeks ago tired of a similar sentiment. We haven't watched it since, but I'll finish it up soon enough.

I finally got around to watching The Wire. One episode to go in S1. It's as good as advertised. I didn't recognize young Wallace as Michael B Jordan until way late in the season. I guess I hadn't thought about how old the show is. (Another thing for the feeling old thread, I suppose)