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Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:06 pm
by Rush2112
Johnnie wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:47 pm
Also, does anyone dip their pizza in salad dressing? It's a habit I picked up when I was younger because a friend did it. I go with Italian dressing, personally.
Surprised you don't do ranch from your time in NM, Nunzio's which was/is? a small chain always gave you ranch with a pie. I like(d) it on some of their pies, but usually went black olive/feta which it isn't good on.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 am
by wlu_lax6
rass wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:22 pm Been abusing myself this week and that included eating some Doritos and it struck me today what a genius bit of marketing “Cool” ranch was.
guacamole Tostitos are just green, round cool ranch Doritos.

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Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:02 am
by Johnnie
Rush2112 wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:06 pm
Johnnie wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:47 pm
Also, does anyone dip their pizza in salad dressing? It's a habit I picked up when I was younger because a friend did it. I go with Italian dressing, personally.
Surprised you don't do ranch from your time in NM, Nunzio's which was/is? a small chain always gave you ranch with a pie. I like(d) it on some of their pies, but usually went black olive/feta which it isn't good on.
I definitely have, but Italian is my preference.

When I'd order from Dion's I'd get the green Chile ranch or the Greek for my pizza. (Since they didn't have Italian.)

https://www.dions.com/

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 am
by Rush2112
There is a Dion's in Denver! Sadly on the other side of the city so I've only been once. The HS I taught at in ABQ the school store always got pies for students to buy a slice so my grad school self appreciated the cheap slice for lunch after the cheap cup of coffee and slice of bread from the Great Harvest just down the street (their green chile cheese bread is the tops)

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:49 am
by mister d
I don't think I fully processed what was going on here last night ... some of you dip pizza in italian or greek dressing? Or pour that dressing on the pizza?

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:57 am
by The Sybian
mister d wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:49 am I don't think I fully processed what was going on here last night ... some of you dip pizza in italian or greek dressing? Or pour that dressing on the pizza?
They are animals.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:59 am
by govmentchedda
I'll lightly dip crap (delivery) pizza in ranch.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:01 am
by Ryan
Used to dip Dominos deep dish in parmesan peppercorn all the time.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:02 am
by brian
If you're dipping shitty pizza in marinara or ranch or whatever, sure, fine, whatever.

If you're doing it with good pizza you're a monster.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:10 am
by Johnnie
mister d wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:49 am I don't think I fully processed what was going on here last night ... some of you dip pizza in italian or greek dressing? Or pour that dressing on the pizza?
You know how Papa John's came with a garlic butter dipping sauce? Well substitute that for Italian or Ranch salad dressing.

Considering pizzas today come with so much additional crap on them, dipping a cheese or pepperoni pizza in a little bit of salad dressing doesn't seem that bad. And it tastes pretty good to me.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:11 am
by Rush2112
NM is a pizza desert. Though Il Vicino has a pretty good wood-fired pie.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:23 am
by Johnnie
Rush2112 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:11 am NM is a pizza desert. Though Il Vicino has a pretty good wood-fired pie.
Albuquerque had several good places for pizza while I was there. (2016-2020) Richie B's, Saggio's, Giovanni's, Farina, Amore, Restoration, Venezia's (now known as Gino's) ...etc. And of course Il Vicino.

Now that I think about it, ABQ is the reason I add green chile to my go-to of bacon and mushroom. (But that's kinda with everything now, I suppose.)

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:26 am
by mister d
Johnnie wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:10 amYou know how Papa John's came with a garlic butter dipping sauce? Well substitute that for Italian or Ranch salad dressing.

Considering pizzas today come with so much additional crap on them, dipping a cheese or pepperoni pizza in a little bit of salad dressing doesn't seem that bad. And it tastes pretty good to me.
Ranch or bleu cheese I've been around, but never one of the more vinaigrette-adjacent ones. I'm not sure why that seems so gross to me, but it sure does.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:36 am
by P.D.X.
tzatziki if you're gonna do it

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:53 am
by The Sybian
mister d wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:26 am
Johnnie wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:10 amYou know how Papa John's came with a garlic butter dipping sauce? Well substitute that for Italian or Ranch salad dressing.

Considering pizzas today come with so much additional crap on them, dipping a cheese or pepperoni pizza in a little bit of salad dressing doesn't seem that bad. And it tastes pretty good to me.
Ranch or bleu cheese I've been around, but never one of the more vinaigrette-adjacent ones. I'm not sure why that seems so gross to me, but it sure does.
It's the acidity that puts me off. It seems like that would overpower all that is good in pizza. But if it's bad pizza, maybe it helps. I could see dipping a dry crust in bleu cheese.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 12:25 pm
by Rush2112
Johnnie wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:23 am
Rush2112 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:11 am NM is a pizza desert. Though Il Vicino has a pretty good wood-fired pie.
Albuquerque had several good places for pizza while I was there. (2016-2020) Richie B's, Saggio's, Giovanni's, Farina, Amore, Restoration, Venezia's (now known as Gino's) ...etc. And of course Il Vicino.

Now that I think about it, ABQ is the reason I add green chile to my go-to of bacon and mushroom. (But that's kinda with everything now, I suppose.)
Yeah we had Dion's, Nunzios, and Il Vicinio (1990-2002) I still add green chile to pizza and burgers if given a chance sadly the kids are more into the cheese and pep style pizza and I end up eating half of those as they eat about a slice and a half and are done.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:17 pm
by brian
There’s at least half dozen great pizza places in any city with a quarter million people. That’s a take I’ll go to war to defend.

(As good as NY/NJ or Chicago or even LA, no but there’s some great places almost everywhere.)

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:50 pm
by sancarlos
Johnnie wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:23 am
Rush2112 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:11 am NM is a pizza desert. Though Il Vicino has a pretty good wood-fired pie.
Albuquerque had several good places for pizza while I was there. (2016-2020) Richie B's, Saggio's, Giovanni's, Farina, Amore, Restoration, Venezia's (now known as Gino's) ...etc. And of course Il Vicino.

Now that I think about it, ABQ is the reason I add green chile to my go-to of bacon and mushroom. (But that's kinda with everything now, I suppose.)
There's a brewpub in Rio Rancho called Turtle Mountain that serves very good pizza. We hit it up whenever I visit my parents.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:11 pm
by Pruitt3
Philippine cuisine is the Taco Bell of Asia.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:07 pm
by Johnnie
Pruitt3 wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:11 pm Philippine cuisine is the Taco Bell of Asia.
So how low is this place then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jollibee

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:23 pm
by The Sybian
Johnnie wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:07 pm
Pruitt3 wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:11 pm Philippine cuisine is the Taco Bell of Asia.
So how low is this place then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jollibee
Have we discussed Jollibee before? It sounds familiar and when I looked up the US locations, I see they have one in the same town as my office. Maybe I just read about it when they opened. I was interested in checking it out, but the menu is pretty much a hamburger or chicken sandwich, and the pictures on their website look nasty.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:31 pm
by Pruitt3
Johnnie wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:07 pm
Pruitt3 wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:11 pm Philippine cuisine is the Taco Bell of Asia.
So how low is this place then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jollibee
There is a Jollibee near me (I think the first in Canada - my neighbourhood is very Fillipino) that has had a lineup every time I drive past it. There's even a Jollibee knockoff near me.
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ETA: My neighbourhood must have one of the most bizarre ethnic mixes around - Jews, Italians, Pilipinos, Russians and Orthodox Jews.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:18 pm
by Johnnie
Toronto seems like a fairly decent melting pot. Reminds me of where I grew up outside Boston. There are fairly large Brazilian/Portuguese and Cambodian populations (along with Italian/Irish/Jewish).

The food is, as expected, awesome.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:20 pm
by Johnnie
The Sybian wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:23 pm
Johnnie wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:07 pm
Pruitt3 wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:11 pm Philippine cuisine is the Taco Bell of Asia.
So how low is this place then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jollibee
Have we discussed Jollibee before? It sounds familiar and when I looked up the US locations, I see they have one in the same town as my office. Maybe I just read about it when they opened. I was interested in checking it out, but the menu is pretty much a hamburger or chicken sandwich, and the pictures on their website look nasty.
I don't remember any specific discussion about it. I literally only know that this place exists because of a Childish Gambino (Donald Glover) lyric.

But there appears to be one in Chandler, near Phoenix. I'll probably pass on it though because, as you note, the menu looks very whelming.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 am
by Nonlinear FC
I'd want to try the palabok and some fried chicken.

My wife's dad is filipino and his gringo wife learned from his relatives how to cook lumpia, chicken adobo, pancit and a variety of beef/ox tail soups. Stuff is absolutely delicious.

But you gotta be careful. They'll throw intestines and other gnarly stuff into dishes and... I'm not a fan.

There are also a number of dishes that are quite clearly derivative of serving American GIs and that can be weird. Like that spaghetti stuff. And some of the hot pocket-esque items. Gross (to me.)

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:48 am
by Giff
Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 am They'll throw intestines and other gnarly stuff into dishes and... I'm not a fan.
My kid's social studies class is doing a thing where they bring in pictures and other things that represent our heritage. We've always thought we were Scottish (some investigation may have debunked that, but we're sticking with it for this purpose) so I thought for sure we were going to have to include a pic of haggis. Turns out fried chicken is Scottish in origin!

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:20 am
by mister d
In the past few years we’ve learned the kids are less Irish and Polish and more Scottish, English and Ukrainian than originally thought.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:56 am
by Johnnie
Speaking of ranch, this looks good. I'm already a fan of Truff hot sauce.


Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:30 pm
by DaveInSeattle
Rush2112 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 12:25 pm Yeah we had Dion's, Nunzios, and Il Vicinio (1990-2002) I still add green chile to pizza and burgers if given a chance sadly the kids are more into the cheese and pep style pizza and I end up eating half of those as they eat about a slice and a half and are done.
I guess I'll lose my NM cred...but I've never even considered putting green chile on a pizza.

And Michael's Kitchen in Taos has the best Green Chile cheese bread!

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:46 pm
by Giff
When you take scarcity into account, New Mexican food is absolutely the food I would choose over any other cuisine.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:42 pm
by mister d
I just had someone say breakfast sandwiches are a top 3 food! Not just sandwich, but food!! Awful!!!

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:47 pm
by rass
Spent the last week and a half looking forward to the awesome breakfast sandwich on a subpar bagel I plan on eating tomorrow so gonna sit this one out.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:49 pm
by A_B
rass wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:47 pm Spent the last week and a half looking forward to the awesome breakfast sandwich on a subpar bagel I plan on eating tomorrow so gonna sit this one out.
What time will you be here?

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:50 pm
by rass
:(

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:17 pm
by rass
(Subpar in that it’s too bread-y and not what I want in a bagel but is great for a sandwich)

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:19 pm
by govmentchedda
mister d wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:42 pm I just had someone say breakfast sandwiches are a top 3 food! Not just sandwich, but food!! Awful!!!
Had a fantastic one this morning. BEC on foccacia roll.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:20 pm
by A_B
I guess Mr. D has never had a BEC biscuit from McD's while hungover.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:21 pm
by Nonlinear FC
I went on a rant the other day when someone brought bagel sandwiches for lunch. Which was preposterous because my wife and I just happened to drop by and the bringer of the sandwiches didn't know we'd be there.

I just don't understand the appeal of having a chewy bagel when you've got toppings that slide all over the place and drop on the plate/ground. It's the same reason Red Robin burgers can fuck off.

If I wanted something I need a knife and fork to eat (without making a huge mess), I would've ordered said dish.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:22 pm
by A_B
Jeez it must be hard to live on the East Coast.

Re: Culinary Hot Takes

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:25 pm
by rass
“Waiter, the A in my $20 BLTA just will NOT stay in place on this house made bagel! I demand to speak to the chef.”